Bills vs Ravens Divisional Round

[Scott7975]

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

16 minutes ago, boyst said:

If the chiefs win and I can muster it up i will wake up ass crack early Sunday and drive up to get to Buffalo by 1pm. 

Keep us all updated. 😉

[MikePJ76]

Making coffee turned on the ticket here in Dallas and they are talking about how Allen needs to win this game or he will forever be known as a guy who can’t win playoff games.

 

not a peep about Lamar!  Then they moved on to talking about how awesome Jaden Daniels is.   
 

very interesting how this has become the national opinion.

[TheWei44]

17 minutes ago, CaseyatBat said:

 

they set, and move, the lines to encourage split betting. it has nothing to do with who they think is going to win, who is or isnt a good QB 

 

 

But it should be closely related to the betting public's perception of who is going to win - If goal is to have 50% on each side of the bet, the line needs to be just right to convince folks on both sides that it's a reasonable bet.  I'm not a sport bettor, so maybe I have this wrong, but I've always viewed the betting lines as something close to the true line (and the betting lines are often very similar to the non-betting lines like they show on ESPN NFL website).

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Making coffee turned on the ticket here in Dallas and they are talking about how Allen needs to win this game or he will forever be known as a guy who can’t win playoff games.

 

not a peep about Lamar!  Then they moved on to talking about how awesome Jaden Daniels is.   
 

very interesting how this has become the national opinion.

 

Perhaps the best Playoff QB we've ever seen, yet this is what he's subjected to because of past team's around him and coaching struggles.

 

Defense is healthy and I'm expecting more of what we saw against Denver.  I'm not saying we'll hold Baltimore to 7, but I am saying that it's time for McDermott to flex his muscle as a Defensive HC, in conjunction with Babich at DC, to perform well enough at home (second time seeing this Ravens Offense) that as long as the Offense has a good game... we win. 

[Scott7975]

4 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Making coffee turned on the ticket here in Dallas and they are talking about how Allen needs to win this game or he will forever be known as a guy who can’t win playoff games.

 

not a peep about Lamar!  Then they moved on to talking about how awesome Jaden Daniels is.   
 

very interesting how this has become the national opinion.

 

I feel that though. I don't give a crap about Lamar. Buffalo needs to win some divisional round at least. Not just Josh. The team. Can't just keep beating these wildcard teams that honestly shouldn't even be there. The old format was better. It was better football. 

[Beck Water]

8 hours ago, BigDingus said:

But you're talking like our team improved in a vacuum while everyone else stayed stagnant.

 

It's true that all of the successful teams improved during the season.  But it's one thing to improve and learn to gel; it's another thing to just lack the personnel.  The Bills were missing 3 key starters from the beginning of the game, with a 4th lost shortly afterwards.

 

People don't want to believe it, but missing like 1/3 of your starting talent is a big drop off on any team facing another top team.

On offense, the Bills 

 

8 hours ago, BigDingus said:

We were definitely missing players, but I'm not sure that explains our offense becoming worse than the Raiders, or our missing defenders explains giving up more points than the Browns...

 

You can be unsure if you like.  There are other factors at play for sure.  But on offense, the situation was different; we had all our starters, but in retrospect, we didn't have enough talent on offense.  Samuel was working his way back from a turf toe and not effective; Keon was still learning.  Then Shakir, our best WR, got injured and became less effective.  The Bills FO recognized this.  This and the Houston game are the reason the Bills traded for Cooper.

 

8 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

That was a coaching failure on both sides, paired with poor execution on the field. The DL can't be giving up nearly 200 rushing yards to Henry, and our offense actually has to be more competent. I just went back & looked at time of possession, and they barely beat us in that regard - 31 minutes to 29 minutes. Sure, some of that was garbage time, but I feel top to bottom the players we did have just didn't play with the same urgency Baltimore's were.

 

Seems pretty clear one of those factors was that the 3-0 Bills didn't bring the same urgency to the game as the 1-2 Ravens.  They had their backs against the wall and came out swinging.

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

It's true that all of the successful teams improved during the season.  But it's one thing to improve and learn to gel; it's another thing to just lack the personnel.  The Bills were missing 3 key starters from the beginning of the game, with a 4th lost shortly afterwards.

 

People don't want to believe it, but missing like 1/3 of your starting talent is a big drop off on any team facing another top team.

On offense, the Bills 

 

 

You can be unsure if you like.  There are other factors at play for sure.  But on offense, the situation was different; we had all our starters, but in retrospect, we didn't have enough talent on offense.  Samuel was working his way back from a turf toe and not effective; Keon was still learning.  Then Shakir, our best WR, got injured and became less effective.  The Bills FO recognized this.  This and the Houston game are the reason the Bills traded for Cooper.

 

 

Seems pretty clear one of those factors was that the 3-0 Bills didn't bring the same urgency to the game as the 1-2 Ravens.  They had their backs against the wall and came out swinging.

 

Missing 3 of your most important run defenders in the middle of the D in Milano, Bernard and Taron have to help with that I think...

[Beck Water]

10 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Making coffee turned on the ticket here in Dallas and they are talking about how Allen needs to win this game or he will forever be known as a guy who can’t win playoff games.

 

not a peep about Lamar!  Then they moved on to talking about how awesome Jaden Daniels is.   
 

very interesting how this has become the national opinion.

 

And yet, including this year so far, Allen is 6-5 in playoffs while Lamar is 3-4 - including losses to Cincy and KC, two of the teams that have beaten the Bills in playoffs

 

Make it Make Sense

[YattaOkasan]

Obviously the topic of our defense and their rushing attack is the primary question.  In the Broncos game it felt like they were playing with more urgency to stop the run than recently.  That brought me back to a Daquan Jones quote that "Stopping the run is all mental."  With that perspective, I am super excited that there is a lot of doubt being thrown onto Buffalo being able to stop the run and being home underdogs.  I think the developing narrative about this game maybe a decisive edge to win the critical battle of the trenches.  

[Beck Water]

15 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Missing 3 of your most important run defenders in the middle of the D in Milano, Bernard and Taron have to help with that I think...

 

"We'll see on Sunday"  - Bobby Babich

 

3 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

Obviously the topic of our defense and their rushing attack is the primary question.  In the Broncos game it felt like they were playing with more urgency to stop the run than recently.  That brought me back to a Daquan Jones quote that "Stopping the run is all mental."  With that perspective, I am super excited that there is a lot of doubt being thrown onto Buffalo being able to stop the run and being home underdogs.  I think the developing narrative about this game maybe a decisive edge to win the critical battle of the trenches.  

 

It's pretty interesting DaQuan said that.  Goes right along with what I was told that playing OL or DL starts with your mind.

Edited 2 hours ago by Beck Water

[Buryravens]

20 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I feel that though. I don't give a crap about Lamar. Buffalo needs to win some divisional round at least. Not just Josh. The team. Can't just keep beating these wildcard teams that honestly shouldn't even be there. The old format was better. It was better football. 

I can’t stand the 7 team format. 
 

1/2 of all teams make the playoffs (nearly). It makes for some weak WC round games. 
 

16 games , 6 teams was such an ideal format but Goodell has to chase the $ per usual. Now we have Christmas games on Netflix etc. 

 

It feels watered down. 

[YattaOkasan]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

"We'll see on Sunday"  - Bobby Babich

 

 

It's pretty interesting DaQuan said that.  Goes right along with what I was told that playing OL or DL starts with your mind.

It was a few years ago when he first joined, but i think the mental part of it explains the end of the season.  I think we circled the DET game on our calendar after clinching the division, and the other games we didnt have the right mindset (maybe NYJ cause that was playoff dress rehearsal).  Was very encouraged with how they came out against Denver.  That mindset alone will not be enough to beat BAL but I dont think we can win with out it (first NE game we didnt have the mindset imo but still won).    

Just now, Buryravens said:

I can’t stand the 7 team format. 
 

1/2 of all teams make the playoffs (nearly). It makes for some weak WC round games. 
 

16 games , 6 teams was such an ideal format but Goodell has to chase the $ per usual. Now we have Christmas games on Netflix etc. 

 

It feels watered down. 

Watered down yet over powered for the 1 seed at the same time.

[Simon]

7 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

It's pretty interesting DaQuan said that.  Goes right along with what I was told that playing OL or DL starts with your mind.

 

There's technique involved, but not to the same degree as you need to play CB, WR, etc.

Those spots in the scrum are want to positions where effort can supersede everything else.

[Coffeesforclosers]

6 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

 

Watered down yet over powered for the 1 seed at the same time.

 

Oddly enough, Nick Wright of all people has made this exact argument.

[Buryravens]

7 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

It was a few years ago when he first joined, but i think the mental part of it explains the end of the season.  I think we circled the DET game on our calendar after clinching the division, and the other games we didnt have the right mindset (maybe NYJ cause that was playoff dress rehearsal).  Was very encouraged with how they came out against Denver.  That mindset alone will not be enough to beat BAL but I dont think we can win with out it (first NE game we didnt have the mindset imo but still won).    

Watered down yet over powered for the 1 seed at the same time.

7 seeds just don’t win too, they’re walk over games. 
 

Except when Dallas of all teams lost to GB in 2020 lol

[YattaOkasan]

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

There's technique involved, but not to the same degree as you need to play CB, WR, etc.

Those spots in the scrum are want to positions where effort can supersede everything else.

I can think of nothing to make them want it more than just getting neg'ed on all week by the media.  we saw how it affected the offense at the start of the year.  I think you wield that criticism ahead of this game to get the DL drinking blood and pissing vinegar.  

2 minutes ago, Buryravens said:

7 seeds just don’t win too, they’re walk over games. 
 

Except when Dallas of all teams lost to GB in 2020 lol

Indy gave Buff a good game in 2020-2021 season (the first year).  When we talk about why we love Josh that game is a great example.  It gets lost in the memory but it was 3 TDs no TOs with constant pressure and only 50 yards of rushing besides his legs.  Defense gave up 27 1st downs!!!  Rough game for the team and Josh had to do extraordinary things to pull a W from the jaws of defeat

Edited 2 hours ago by YattaOkasan

[Simon]

9 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

I can think of nothing to make them want it more than just getting neg'ed on all week by the media.  we saw how it affected the offense at the start of the year.  I think you wield that criticism ahead of this game to get the DL drinking blood and pissing vinegar. 

 

The media and the fans/bettors are playing their role to perfection this week.

I fully expect the Bills to be carrying massive attitude on Sunday.

[CaseyatBat]

Should be an easy victory since the team will be motivated by betting lines and something a baltimore reporter said 3 years ago

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

22 minutes ago, Buryravens said:

I can’t stand the 7 team format. 
 

1/2 of all teams make the playoffs (nearly). It makes for some weak WC round games. 
 

16 games , 6 teams was such an ideal format but Goodell has to chase the $ per usual. Now we have Christmas games on Netflix etc. 

 

It feels watered down. 

They’re probably gonna add yet another playoff team too 😂