Bills vs Ravens Divisional Round

[Pete]

3 hours ago, Buryravens said:

Does anyone dispute Lamar and King as the best QB/RB duo? Honestly, a 3x MVP QB and The King. 

• A QB rushing threat like no other: If his league-leading 93.8 PFF rushing grade holds up, Allen will set a PFF record by the season's end — breaking his own record of 93.6 set in 2021.

 

2. ELITE PLAY THROUGH THE AIR, WITH IMPROVED BALL SECURITY

Allen's 33 big-time throws and 7.2% big-time throw rate lead the NFL. While that isn’t necessarily breaking news, he is doing so while running a career-low 2.5% turnover-worthy play rate. Over his past six games, he’s generated an incredible 15 big-time throws compared to just one turnover-worthy play.

There are only 10 other instances in PFF history where a quarterback posted at least a 7% big-time throw rate and a 2.5% turnover-worthy play rate or better. Among those seasons are two Aaron RodgersMVP campaigns, Tom Brady’s 2020 Super Bowl run and incredible campaigns from players like Russell Wilson and Ben Roethlisberger in their respective primes.

 

 

Allen will set a PFF record by the season's end. Of course, he would be breaking his own record of 93.6, which he set in 2021.

If we remove kneel-downs, which account for eight of his 91 carries this season, Allen has rushed for 5.9 yards per run while picking up a first down or touchdown 54.2% of the time. 

 

[YattaOkasan]

13 minutes ago, Buryravens said:

Idk intelligence is clearly subjective much like the Baltimore school system which is ass ! 
 

im hoping for a good game and no injuries, whoever wins has to end the KC refs 

A great TD/ int rate etc 

But why 5 losses?  thats the question.  If MVP with an incredible supporting cast how do you drop those games.  Defense thats figured out now? some of those are on defense.  Yall are a buzz saw (especially with a lead) but parts of this don't add up.  Having MVP + 3 more all Pros + 5 more Pro Bowlers should be a near undefeated team (more pro bowlers than 2007 Pats!).  I always worry were gonna come lay and egg but yall seem more variable than even us.  

 

If both teams played the way the did in the divisional round its gonna be an AWESOME game.

[Scott7975]

14 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said:

Sure but I'm trying to look at past games and stats for a hint and I can't find anything. Of course he's a beast but if there's data that shows it slows him down I'd like to see that. I can't find even one game he's played in snow. That cant be right though.

 

I don't think he has ever played in the snow. Certainly the cold but not the snow.

[gonzo1105]

The Bills/Ravens has drawn Carl Cheffers as the ref for the game. Apparently home teams have a 73% win percentage and the Ravens fans on twitter don’t like it because he flagged the crap out of them the last time he reffed a Ravens game

Edited 21 hours ago by gonzo1105

[Simon]

24 minutes ago, Jdragon2 said:

They beat the hell out of us. Played a good team or not the last few weeks, they have a better overall team. Do I think the Bills can win? Absolutely. But writing the Ravens off, or even downgrading them, because of how and who they've played the last few weeks is silly.  

 

 

They certainly didn't beat the hell out of the team they'll be seeing on Sunday.

And discussing whether or why it's valid for a team to suddenly be favored over another team with a better record that is also undefeated at home is a legitimate debate.

[PaattMaann]

1 minute ago, YattaOkasan said:

But why 5 losses?  thats the question.  If MVP with an incredible supporting cast how do you drop those games.  Defense thats figured out now? some of those are on defense.  Yall are a buzz saw (especially with a lead) but parts of this don't add up.  Having MVP + 3 more all Pros + 5 more Pro Bowlers should be a near undefeated team (more pro bowlers than 2007 Pats!).  I always worry were gonna come lay and egg but yall seem more variable than even us.  

 

If both teams played the way the did in the divisional round its gonna be an AWESOME game.

 

2 losses, Chiefs and Raiders, opened the season. Literally no insight there. They arent that same team, just like we arent the same team that lost to the Ravens and Texans early on. Two more losses were division games in the Steelers and Browns, division games are always tough regardless of how good or bad a team is. Then they lost to a really good Eagles team. 

 

Thats why the 5 losses. They are a great team with very few weaknesses, just like us. Sunday is gonna be awesome. 

[RiotAct]

2 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

The Bills/Ravens has drawn Carl Cheffers as the ref for the game 

interesting, I believe he was the ref for our  2020 Divisional Round matchup against Baltimore as well.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

37 minutes ago, Buryravens said:

Bend don’t break is how Baltimore kills you, you need TFLs sacks etc 

The ravens beat 7 playoff teams. 
 

Bills

DC

Bucs

Broncos 

Chargers

Pitt (reg season)

Texans 

Steelers 

 

 

I don’t make the schedule, but 7>2 

Pretty similar record against teams still in it right now.  Everything is a dead heat for me goin into this one.  With that said I don’t think beating most of the fringe playoff teams in the league is statistically significant when determining a teams chances in the divisional round or later…something both fanbases know after losing to the playoff chiefs 😂

[Scott7975]

The key to stopping Henry is to tackle him before he gets going. If he gets to the second level, thats when he becomes a problem. The key to stopping Lamar is not letting him get out of the pocket. Our guys are too slow to lose contain on Lamar.

[Buryravens]

5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Pretty similar record against teams still in it right now.  Everything is a dead heat for me goin into this one.  With that said I don’t think beating most of the fringe playoff teams in the league is statistically significant when determining a teams chances in the divisional round or later…something both fanbases know after losing to the playoff chiefs 😂

Similar? Ravens have the 1st SOS, bulls the 27th. 
 

it’s not their fault for playing in the afc east but be serious lol 

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

The key to stopping Henry is to tackle him before he gets going. If he gets to the second level, thats when he becomes a problem. The key to stopping Lamar is not letting him get out of the pocket. Our guys are too slow to lose contain on Lamar.

The key to stopping Lamar is limiting his snaps, or a great pass rush. His in the pocket numbers are 2nd best to Rodgers 2011…

Edited 20 hours ago by Buryravens

[YattaOkasan]

1 minute ago, PaattMaann said:

 

2 losses, Chiefs and Raiders, opened the season. Literally no insight there. They arent that same team, just like we arent the same team that lost to the Ravens and Texans early on. Two more losses were division games in the Steelers and Browns, division games are always tough regardless of how good or bad a team is. Then they lost to a really good Eagles team. 

 

Thats why the 5 losses. They are a great team with very few weaknesses, just like us. Sunday is gonna be awesome. 

This place would melt down with losses to Raiders or in division to the 4th place team.  They are a great team i agree, but oddly more high variance than us. 

 

The recognition bestowed on them though doesnt match the season they had imo.  Still great team and a good/great season but that level of recognition should mean the 1 seed probably (not 3 seed behind a team you beat).  On the flip side we had 1 second team all pro and managed the two seed in a year most pundits had us finishing third in the division and we coasted to a division win 5 weeks early.  Either Josh is MVP or McD is COY if our players truly played to the level they are being recognized at.    

[BananaB]

1 hour ago, Buryravens said:

Bend don’t break is how Baltimore kills you, you need TFLs sacks etc 

The ravens beat 7 playoff teams. 
 

Bills

DC

Bucs

Broncos 

Chargers

Pitt (reg season)

Texans 

Steelers 

 

 

I don’t make the schedule, but 7>2 

You don’t make the schedule but you’re bragging about it. My guess is you know it’s a relatively weak list of playoff teams. 
 

Ravens hit Buffalo at the right time. All 3 starters in the second level of their D didn’t play. Add in a couple injures early in game that made them more short handed. Also hit the Texans at a perfect time in the season to have an easy W.  You’re 7-2 against playoff teams though. Congrats

 

Bills team you seen in October isn’t the team you’ll see on Sunday. Not even close

Edited 20 hours ago by BananaB

[PaattMaann]

Just now, YattaOkasan said:

This place would melt down with losses to Raiders or in division to the 4th place team.  They are a great team i agree, but oddly more high variance than us. 

 

The recognition bestowed on them though doesnt match the season they had imo.  Still great team and a good/great season but that level of recognition should mean the 1 seed probably (not 3 seed behind a team you beat).  On the flip side we had 1 second team all pro and managed the two seed in a year most pundits had us finishing third in the division and we coasted to a division win 5 weeks early.  Either Josh is MVP or McD is COY if our players truly played to the level they are being recognized at.    

 

My point was, and still remains, they have not been high variance in months. They have been dominant, just like us. 

[YattaOkasan]

5 minutes ago, Buryravens said:

Similar? Ravens have the 1st SOS, bulls the 27th. 
 

it’s not their fault for playing in the afc east but be serious lol 

The key to stopping Lamar is limiting his snaps, or a great pass rush. His in the pocket numbers are 2nd best to Rodgers 2011…

Record against teams remaining is what he meant.  BAL: 3-3 Buff: 2-3.  No doubt yall can play with anyone.  Would say the mafia feels a bit disrespected given what the team has achieved this year relative to what people expected them to achieve.

[ALLinALLEN]

55 minutes ago, Buryravens said:

Bend don’t break is how Baltimore kills you, you need TFLs sacks etc 

The ravens beat 7 playoff teams. 
 

Bills

DC

Bucs

Broncos 

Chargers

Pitt (reg season)

Texans 

Steelers 

 

 

I don’t make the schedule, but 7>2 

Beating the Bucs, Broncos, Steelers, and Chargers - ALL teams who lost in the wild card round, isn't the Brag you think it is. But sure "went 7-2 vs playoff teams" is a cool accolade I guess. Also don't think the Texans are either. 

[Scott7975]

Just now, Buryravens said:

Similar? Ravens have the 1st SOS, bulls the 27th. 
 

it’s not their fault for playing in the afc east but be serious lol 

 

Thats skewed a little bit by playing the Steelers. I think you know as well as I do that the Steelers are a fraud team and have been for years. Lets not do this. Teams play who they play. We can go team for team if you like. You might have had a tougher game or two but the SOS is highly skewed by record which could be just who you play and when you play them.

 

For instance Miami has a crap record because they were without a starting caliber QB for half a season. We played them both times with Tua, but that won't show up on SOS sheet. We played Houston when they still had Diggs and were hungry. You played them when they were locked into seeding and had 1 good receiver. Are you going to say playing the Browns is any tougher than Jets or Pats? You played Philly, we played Detroit. You played the Commanders, we played the Rams. You played the Giants, we played the Titans.

 

We can do this all day bro but in reality we played about the same toughness of teams.

[Kelly to Allen]

I need Allen to be Bradshaw 

Oliver to be Joe Greene 

Benford to be Mel Blount 

[YattaOkasan]

2 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

My point was, and still remains, they have not been high variance in months. They have been dominant, just like us. 

Last quarter of the season they have been dominant, but not as challenged as in earlier months.  2nd and 3rd quarters of the season they were still super high variance (granted losses were in the division and on the road but to definitely lesser teams).  I dont think its that long ago.  

[Scott7975]

4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

I need Allen to be Bradshaw 

Oliver to be Joe Greene 

Benford to be Mel Blount 

 

F that. I need Allen to be Allen. Bradshaw can go piss.

[YattaOkasan]

4 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said:

Beating the Bucs, Broncos, Steelers, and Chargers - ALL teams who lost in the wild card round, isn't the Brag you think it is. But sure "went 7-2 vs playoff teams" is a cool accolade I guess. Also don't think the Texans are either. 

We also collected a few wins against teams that just missed the playoffs including Dolphins (they would be in if not for Tua injury, but they also shouldve expected an injury), Colts, Seahawks, Arizona even.