Bills vs Ravens Divisional Round

[asyranok]

22 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I'm betting it's a primetime game. 

 

We can win this game. Crash the line, stop the run. Make Lamar beat you with his arm. 

 

Revenge factor will be a motivation. Lamar and not Josh 1st team All Pro will be a chip on their shoulders. And this game isn't in Baltimore. Bills winning this one. 

Keep in mind, Allen crushed the Ravens in the 2020 playoffs. There's a revenge factor there too.

22 hours ago, sven233 said:

There will be a ton of analysis of this game next week, but the overall game plan should be what it should have been earlier in the season.  Stack the box and slow the run game.  Make the "MVP" prove he can beat us in our house by having to throw the ball.  I don't know what Flowers' status will be, but if he is out, you double Bateman, keep an eye on the TEs and do not let them run against a single light box the entire game.  And if Jackson can beat us consistently down the field without the threat of Henry getting a free pass to the 2nd level, so be it.  But I am selling out to stop Henry and Jackson at the LOS and forcing Jackson to beat us having to throw the ball 40+ times. 

 

Make no mistake about it.....the pressure is all on the Ravens.  They will be road favorites and everyone has basically already crowned them.  They are already fast-forwarding to Ravens vs Chiefs in the AFC Championship.  I mean, they have 9 All Pros, right?  They should steam roll us.  Man......we have a chance to shut a lot of people up over the next few weeks if we play our best football.  And, it will take our best football to win.

Why does everyone keep saying the Ravens are favorites? The line is -1.5 Bills. I understand wanting to build an underdog mentality because it makes it feel like your disrespected, but the reality is that the Bills have a better record, and you have home field advantage where you are undefeated this year. The betting lines will favor the Bills until kickoff, though some pundits will go both ways, sure.

[Rubes]

3 minutes ago, asyranok said:

Keep in mind, Allen crushed the Ravens in the 2020 playoffs. There's a revenge factor there too.

Why does everyone keep saying the Ravens are favorites? The line is -1.5 Bills. I understand wanting to build an underdog mentality because it makes it feel like your disrespected, but the reality is that the Bills have a better record, and you have home field advantage where you are undefeated this year. The betting lines will favor the Bills until kickoff, though some pundits will go both ways, sure.

 

Is it? I just heard it was -1.5 Ravens.

 

[asyranok]

21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

***** the ravens. 

Quoth the Ravens?

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, asyranok said:

Keep in mind, Allen crushed the Ravens in the 2020 playoffs. There's a revenge factor there too.

Why does everyone keep saying the Ravens are favorites? The line is -1.5 Bills. I understand wanting to build an underdog mentality because it makes it feel like your disrespected, but the reality is that the Bills have a better record, and you have home field advantage where you are undefeated this year. The betting lines will favor the Bills until kickoff, though some pundits will go both ways, sure.

The line started there but has already moved to Baltimore -1

[TheWei44]

8 minutes ago, asyranok said:

Keep in mind, Allen crushed the Ravens in the 2020 playoffs. There's a revenge factor there too.

Why does everyone keep saying the Ravens are favorites? The line is -1.5 Bills. I understand wanting to build an underdog mentality because it makes it feel like your disrespected, but the reality is that the Bills have a better record, and you have home field advantage where you are undefeated this year. The betting lines will favor the Bills until kickoff, though some pundits will go both ways, sure.

You're wrong - Check Draft Kings or FanDuel.  I'm not a sports gambler but line flipped from -1.5 Bills to +1.5 Bills earlier today.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[asyranok]

5 minutes ago, Rubes said:

 

Is it? I just heard it was -1.5 Ravens.

 

I read that in one place, then checked betting apps and other websites and saw it was Bills -1.5. So I think that was a typo. Where did you see it? I think I saw the typo on ESPN. Not sure.

Just now, TheWei44 said:

You're wrong - Check Draft Kings or FanDuel.  I'm not a sports gambler but line flipped from -1.5 Bills to +1.5 Bills earlier today.

Oh damn. Ok. That's getting confusing.

[TheWei44]

Just now, asyranok said:

I read that in one place, then checked betting apps and other websites and saw it was Bills -1.5. So I think that was a typo. Where did you see it? I think I saw the typo on ESPN. Not sure.

Oh damn. Ok. That's getting confusing.

All good!  I haven't checked all betting sites/lines and I am sure it will move some before the game in any event!

[ChrisWatson#21]

Can’t wait for the Bills to win and move on from all those media grifters with other agendas posing as analysts. 

[asyranok]

1 minute ago, ChrisWatson#21 said:

Can’t wait for the Bills to win and move on from all those media grifters with other agendas posing as analysts. 

I think their agenda is purely bandwagoning. They pick one team from each conference each year and then go all in on spit shining their shoes.

I don't think it's because they want to influence anything, it's just that they suck at being objective and love to latch onto narratives and bandwagons. For a while there, they were all in on Allen this year. But then (giving me whiplash), they suddenly were all about Lamar. 

[HappyDays]

Most of the conversation is understandably on the Ravens offense vs our defense. I'm actually more interested in the opposite matchup though. I worry a bit that the Ravens defense matches up well against us. They are the best run defense in the league in both YPG and YPC so we probably can't lean on Cook like we did yesterday. Their weakness appears to be passing outside the numbers but that's been our offense's weakness too... I think this game has to be the Amari Cooper game if there ever was one. If he's 1v1 outside he needs to get the ball. Get Coleman going on back shoulders too. We need to score 30+ and it will have to come through the air. Our first game we didn't have the horses to execute that way. This is where we find out if the addition of Cooper and the growth of Coleman are enough to flip the script.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, asyranok said:

I think their agenda is purely bandwagoning. They pick one team from each conference each year and then go all in on spit shining their shoes.

I don't think it's because they want to influence anything, it's just that they suck at being objective and love to latch onto narratives and bandwagons. For a while there, they were all in on Allen this year. But then (giving me whiplash), they suddenly were all about Lamar. 

It’s a double down on them saying the bills weren’t gonna be good in the offseason imo…if the ravens win they can be like ‘told you the bills weren’t talented enough this year’ and redeem themselves a bit for their awful afc east takes haha 

 

same thing that has happened to josh his whole career…they predicted he would bust so they snub him at every turn before being forced into giving him some credit 

[stevewin]

35 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

If you can...the problem is that it's hard to hit him.  I saw a Steelers player on the edge breaking down into defensive position when he had Lamar in the backfield.  He played it safe rather than going for the hit so he could make sure to be ready for a juke and not miss him.  Lamar juked and he totally missed him.

I'm talking more about at the mesh point of RPO - if you have a shot take it even if it is just after he hands off 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Most of the conversation is understandably on the Ravens offense vs our defense. I'm actually more interested in the opposite matchup though. I worry a bit that the Ravens defense matches up well against us. They are the best run defense in the league in both YPG and YPC so we probably can't lean on Cook like we did yesterday. Their weakness appears to be passing outside the numbers but that's been our offense's weakness too... I think this game has to be the Amari Cooper game if there ever was one. If he's 1v1 outside he needs to get the ball. Get Coleman going on back shoulders too. We need to score 30+ and it will have to come through the air. Our first game we didn't have the horses to execute that way. This is where we find out if the addition of Cooper and the growth of Coleman are enough to flip the script.

Manning up the bills with no Shakir or cooper and Coleman only having a couple games under his belt was much easier imo.  I think that early regular season blowout benefits the bills for this rematch honestly.  the ravens will likely roll with mostly the same defensive gameplan and it might blow up on them this time and on the defensive side we really didn’t show much of anything because a good chunk of the starters were out 

 

I’ve got a funny feeling we’ll see some more Curtis Samuel action lol 

Edited Monday at 08:04 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[947]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Most of the conversation is understandably on the Ravens offense vs our defense. I'm actually more interested in the opposite matchup though. I worry a bit that the Ravens defense matches up well against us. They are the best run defense in the league in both YPG and YPC so we probably can't lean on Cook like we did yesterday. Their weakness appears to be passing outside the numbers but that's been our offense's weakness too... I think this game has to be the Amari Cooper game if there ever was one. If he's 1v1 outside he needs to get the ball. Get Coleman going on back shoulders too. We need to score 30+ and it will have to come through the air. Our first game we didn't have the horses to execute that way. This is where we find out if the addition of Cooper and the growth of Coleman are enough to flip the script.

 

The Ravens Run-D stats are skewed by 2 things.

 

1- The fact that they played with a lead for much of the year behind their run game, teams pass more to keep up

2- The book on them is that they can be passed on, so that's what most teams game plans featured

 

Sure, their Run-D is solid, but probably not any better than Denver in reality

[DaVinci]

"Never more"

[RobbRiddick]

I don't blame people for picking the Ravens. it isn't Bills hate. They're just a very physically dominant team with a bull at RB and our D has shown it can be pushed around by teams like that

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, 90sBills said:

Exactly. Like the last time when they met in the playoffs and the Texans jumped out to a 24-0 lead because of KC’s mistakes. That led to…oh wait. Nevermind. 

 

This rendition of the Chiefs is not built to come from behind by 24 points. Back then they had Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce in their prime and defenses hadn't come close to figuring out how to stop that style of offense yet.

 

Not that it matters. They won't fall behind by 24 points against the Texans. They'll play a close game and then make a play or two at the end to win it, or the Texans will make a play to lose it. That's how the 2024 Chiefs are built to win.

[Big Turk]

58 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

The line started there but has already moved to Baltimore -1

 

Awesome...McD will be able to play the no respect card again.

[asyranok]

42 minutes ago, 947 said:

 

The Ravens Run-D stats are skewed by 2 things.

 

1- The fact that they played with a lead for much of the year behind their run game, teams pass more to keep up

2- The book on them is that they can be passed on, so that's what most teams game plans featured

 

Sure, their Run-D is solid, but probably not any better than Denver in reality

They did not play with a lead for most of their games. An enormous number of games this year were very close all the way to the end. Even, that 34-17 game against the Steelers was painfully close until the last quarter. Yes, the Browns game in week 18, or the Texans games were blowouts from the start, though.

 No, the real reason the Raven's run defense is overrated is because of how godawful... truly legendarily bad... the Ravens pass defense was until after week 11. It was the worst pass defense I've ever seen in all my years of football. Why focus on running against a pretty good run defense when you can pass at will?

Granted, the Ravens made major changes after the first Browns loss and turned the legendarily bad pass defense into the best pass defense in the league over the final 7 games... somehow. Still, the run defense held up fairly well during that stretch.

Really, the Ravens rush defense, if our pass D wasn't so bad for most of the year, would probably be around 3rd. It's still very good. Since Denver is 3rd, your comment isn't far off the reality, though. But you might find it's a little harder to run against us next week than Denver. Granted, we also haven't played a ton of teams with insanely mobile QB's either, so maybe the Allen run factor will open it up a lot for Cook.

Edited Monday at 08:52 PM by asyranok