Amari Cooper, I like him more everyday (ESPN article)

[RochesterLifer]

I think a lot of players' on-field displays of emotion are phony advertisements. I despised Diggs' "must win" showmanship. I really like Amari Cooper and I hope we keep him. 

The quiet confidence of Amari Cooper

[Don Otreply]

With so many sh-t talkers in the NFL it is refreshing to see a man be just that, a man, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[boater]

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Off the field, Cooper said the close-knit nature of the team differs from other places and that carries to the field.

 

Asked what differs between the culture of the Bills and Cooper's other teams, he answered in a fashion undeniably true to himself.

 

"I just feel like it's a little bit more," Cooper said. What did he mean by that? "A little bit of more togetherness."

 

Bills players note they can be themselves under McDermott, an approach McDermott credits to making the work more enjoyable and he gives players an opportunity to be or become the best versions of themselves.

 

 

McDermott is a very good coach. That he made the playoffs with this no-name roster is quite an achievement. He knows how to handle Gen-Z athletes, so many coaches do not.

[sven233]

Honestly, what we need are 2 more Amri Coopers......just a decade younger.  But that requires the GM to make significant investments through draft picks in the WR room after he just did it last season.  And yes.....I realize he did this with Coleman last season, but Coleman has proven to be exactly what we thought he would be coming out of college.......a guy that can't separate consistently at the NFL level due to lack of explosiveness and speed that will make the occasional big play, especially off script, in contested ball situations.  I find it very difficult to believe that he will ever be more than a low end WR2 or WR3-WR4 depending on how you want to use him out of the slot.  I mean, I would love for him to develop more, and he is young (almost as young as Edmunds from what I can tell), but he is going to have to learn to win in different ways consistently because he will never be able to outrun or out-quick anyone.  I wish the Bills would use him more on slants as that would help him create some separation by shielding defenders off, but we run about 2 slants a year and I guess that's our max.  But, he needs much better footwork and needs to use his body and hands to create separation.  He has a long ways to go in those departments.  But hey, Allen had some of the worst mechanics I have ever seen coming out of college and he completely revamped basically everything from his footwork to his throwing motion through great coaching, science, and extremely hard work and dedication to his craft.  Can Coleman do the same thing?  Remains to be seen, but he has a long way to go as of now.

 

But yeah, we need 2 game breakers at the WR position that don't mind sharing the ball, that work their tails off, and keep their mouths shut.  Good luck finding them.

Edited Saturday at 04:07 AM by sven233

[Ethan in Cleveland]

2 hours ago, RochesterLifer said:

I think a lot of players' on-field displays of emotion are phony advertisements. I despised Diggs' "must win" showmanship. I really like Amari Cooper and I hope we keep him. 

The quiet confidence of Amari Cooper

Did you really despise Diggs? Be honest! In year 1, did you despise his franchise record 127 catches and 1500 yards receiving? I call BS. 

 

I will donate $500 dollars to anyone's charity of choice if they can find one post saying they despised Diggs showmanship in year 1? Year 2? 

 

PS I like Cooper's demeanor too but like Diggs just as much

 

[RochesterLifer]

7 minutes ago, sven233 said:

Honestly, what we need are 2 more Amri Coopers......just a decade younger.  But that requires the GM to make significant investments through draft picks in the WR room after he just did it last season.  And yes.....I realize he did this with Coleman last season, but Coleman has proven to be exactly what we thought he would be coming out of college.......a guys that can't separate consistently at the NFL level due to lack of explosiveness and speed that will make the occasional big play, especially off script, in contested ball situations.  I find it very difficult to believe that he will ever be more than a low end WR2 or WR3-WR4 depending on how you want to use him out of the slot.  

 

But yeah, we need 2 game breakers at the WR position that don't mind sharing the ball, that work their tails off, and keep their mouths shut.  Good luck finding them.

An Amari in hand is worth two in the bush. 😊 

2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Did you really despise Diggs? Be honest! In year 1, did you despise his franchise record 127 catches and 1500 yards receiving? I call BS. 

 

I will donate $500 dollars to anyone's charity of choice if they can find one post saying they despised Diggs showmanship in year 1? Year 2? 

 

PS I like Cooper's demeanor too but like Diggs just as much

 

Work on your reading comprehension, my friend. I said I despised his “must win” showmanship. Excluding January, he was fantastic for 3.5 years. But wow, what a diva.

[Mikie2times]

 

 

3 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Did you really despise Diggs? Be honest! In year 1, did you despise his franchise record 127 catches and 1500 yards receiving? I call BS. 

 

I will donate $500 dollars to anyone's charity of choice if they can find one post saying they despised Diggs showmanship in year 1? Year 2? 

 

PS I like Cooper's demeanor too but like Diggs just as much

 

I thought his kneeling bit in KC was attention seeking and I said as much back then. 

[billsfan89]

Dudes a pro in every sense of the word. Bills are gonna need him to make some plays too if they want to go on a deep run. Team will try to test the Bills in man coverage single high. Stack the box single high to clog the run game and force the outside WR's to beat you and they are going to need Amari to have a couple of big games to keep teams honest. 

[nedboy7]

I liked Diggs. Yeah he got obnoxious  the last year and his need to leave was very disappointing. But I loved Diggs before the final year. 

Edited Saturday at 01:37 AM by nedboy7

[HankBulloughMellencamp]

1 hour ago, sven233 said:

Coleman has proven to be exactly what we thought he would be coming out of college.......a guys that can't separate consistently at the NFL level due to lack of explosiveness and speed that will make the occasional big play, especially off script, in contested ball situations.  I find it very difficult to believe that he will ever be more than a low end WR2 or WR3-WR4 depending on how you want to use him out of the slot.  

 

I would think McDermott & Beane would have earned a little more trust from you by now. The decision to shed Diggs & his large ego (& larger contract) was clearly the right move for Buffalo, and underscores your point about needing more Cooper-types but younger. Which Coleman may very well be, with 17 throwing to him. But 10k NFL receivers don't just grow on trees. And we now have plenty of opened cap space after this year to finally be able to grease up and extend 17's contract properly, and add a few guys including possibly a Cooper extension. I'd imagine he'd be open to staying here.

 

But my point is that we shouldn't just be judge & jury yet and just chalk #0 up as only capable of what he has been able to do thus far. Beane and McDermott have proven that they do a solid to great job developing their draft picks. Especially after trading Teller too early, the Bills now like to let their young guys ferment if need be. Picks are essentially dirt cheap for 4 years minimum. Coleman being a 2nd rounder, let's see what the kid can become - and less expensively at that. Keon sure seems coachable, and he undoubtedly has already learned a thing or two from watching Cooper come in and handle business. 

Edited Saturday at 01:45 AM by HankBulloughMellencamp

[TH3]

1 hour ago, sven233 said:

Honestly, what we need are 2 more Amri Coopers......just a decade younger.  But that requires the GM to make significant investments through draft picks in the WR room after he just did it last season.  And yes.....I realize he did this with Coleman last season, but Coleman has proven to be exactly what we thought he would be coming out of college.......a guys that can't separate consistently at the NFL level due to lack of explosiveness and speed that will make the occasional big play, especially off script, in contested ball situations.  I find it very difficult to believe that he will ever be more than a low end WR2 or WR3-WR4 depending on how you want to use him out of the slot.  

 

But yeah, we need 2 game breakers at the WR position that don't mind sharing the ball, that work their tails off, and keep their mouths shut.  Good luck finding them.

Bills just set records for offense….Need a real pass rusher

[Thurman#1]

30 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Bills just set records for offense….Need a real pass rusher

 

 

Yeah, this is for real. Hard to get them at #32, though.

 

Draft should be interesting but Josh has proven he can make extremely good things happen without a true #1. Just by throwing to the right guy, the one who comes open. It's amazing that Josh is still improving, but he is. My guess is they don't go WR in the 1st. But we'll see.

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Did you really despise Diggs? Be honest! In year 1, did you despise his franchise record 127 catches and 1500 yards receiving? I call BS. 

 

I will donate $500 dollars to anyone's charity of choice if they can find one post saying they despised Diggs showmanship in year 1? Year 2? 

 

PS I like Cooper's demeanor too but like Diggs just as much

 

I despised his showmanship in years 1 & 2

 

Diggs was what he was, and then that went away somewhat quickly, 

 

$500.00 to  the children’s hospital in Buffalo 

[JimBob2232]

2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Did you really despise Diggs? Be honest! In year 1, did you despise his franchise record 127 catches and 1500 yards receiving? I call BS. 

 

I will donate $500 dollars to anyone's charity of choice if they can find one post saying they despised Diggs showmanship in year 1? Year 2? 

 

PS I like Cooper's demeanor too but like Diggs just as much

 

 

Hmm....I know I have one...let me find it...ive hated him since Maryland...

[JimBob2232]

2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Did you really despise Diggs? Be honest! In year 1, did you despise his franchise record 127 catches and 1500 yards receiving? I call BS. 

 

I will donate $500 dollars to anyone's charity of choice if they can find one post saying they despised Diggs showmanship in year 1? Year 2? 

 

PS I like Cooper's demeanor too but like Diggs just as much

 

Count?

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 02:50 AM by JimBob2232

[billsfan89]

33 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Bills just set records for offense….Need a real pass rusher

 

Bills likely need some defensive pieces in the off-season BUT they also have to replace Cooper. Cooper's a big reason why the team's offensive output went from kind of good but having issues against better defenses to elite all time elite after the acquisition of Cooper. It wasn't all the trade for Amari as I think Keon and some of the younger players getting more experience with Josh helped but Amari was the piece on the outside that kept a lot of teams honest. 

 

85% of the offense will be back for 2025. All 5 offensive line starters are back for 2025, Josh is locked in, Knox and Kincaid are back, Shakir/Samuel/Coleman are locked in and Cook/Davis are locked in. The only significant offensive pieces that will be free agents are Hollins, Ty Johnson, and Amari. If the Bills want to bring back Hollins and Johnson they probably could do so fairly cheaply. Ty Johnson is a pass catching backup RB who will be 28 and Hollins is a 32 year old WR4/5 who is a special teams ace, solid pieces but not likely to command big money in free agency. 

 

But Cooper is the piece they will need to replace, a consistent boundary WR. Doesn't have to be an elite WR like Jefferson but the Bills will need a reliable top 20ish WR on the outside to make the offense flow. I would say DT, DE, and CB will probably be 3 of the 4 main needs the team will have in the offseason but I will put WR as a major need as well. And I think given the Bills solid amount of cap space and draft capital I think they should be able to address both the need to replace Cooper and the need to add an impact pass rusher and maybe even add an ancillary piece or two. 

[Sierra Foothills]

6 hours ago, RochesterLifer said:

I think a lot of players' on-field displays of emotion are phony advertisements. I despised Diggs' "must win" showmanship. I really like Amari Cooper and I hope we keep him. 

The quiet confidence of Amari Cooper

 

I will say that Amari is the "Anti-Diva" wide receiver.

 

3 hours ago, sven233 said:

Coleman has proven to be exactly what we thought he would be coming out of college.......a guys that can't separate consistently at the NFL level due to lack of explosiveness and speed that will make the occasional big play, especially off script, in contested ball situations.  I find it very difficult to believe that he will ever be more than a low end WR2 or WR3-WR4 depending on how you want to use him out of the slot.

 

It's premature to judge Coleman. He's still a rookie for god's sake. Take a good look at Courtland Sutton on Sunday. That's the kind of wide receiver that Keon can become.

 

1 hour ago, HankBulloughMellencamp said:

But my point is that we shouldn't just be judge & jury yet and just chalk #0 up as only capable of what he has been able to do thus far. Beane and McDermott have proven that they do a solid to great job developing their draft picks. Especially after trading Teller too early, the Bills now like to let their young guys ferment if need be. Picks are essentially dirt cheap for 4 years minimum. Coleman being a 2nd rounder, let's see what the kid can become - and less expensively at that. Keon sure seems coachable, and he undoubtedly has already learned a thing or two from watching Cooper come in and handle business. 

 

Not only is it premature to judge Amari Cooper, it's also premature to judge Von Miller, even after nearly 3 years on the team. Both of these players were acquired to make us a bona fide championship contender. Neither has had the opportunity to do that yet.

 

[transplantbillsfan]

Pretty awesome article.

 

I'm genuinely curious to see how we use him this postseason. Sure feels like we've been holding back his usage and saving it for the playoffs.

[Da webster guy]

5 hours ago, boater said:

 

McDermott is a very good coach. That he made the playoffs with this no-name roster is quite an achievement. He knows how to handle Gen-Z athletes, so many coaches do not.

He's an awesome leader and person.    Hopefully he keeps delegating game calling stuff to others like Marv used to because he's shown that he needs help in that area.    That's on Beane to get  him the guys upstairs for clock management, time out calls, what to do late in the 4th q vs Houston, 13 seconds, etc.    He's gotta quit saying "we'll learn from this", it's been 8 years bro you're there or you're not, and nobody's perfect so just get ol McD the brainy boys to support him and keep the dude forever.

[Cray51]

8 hours ago, JimBob2232 said:

Count?

 

 

 

What charity should Ethan send the funds too?  Want to make sure he has the info lol

 

@Ethan in Cleveland check/ach/wire?