AP All-Pro Teams Announced. Josh 2nd Team Only Bill.

[SoonerBillsFan]

56 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Lamar will win MVP.  He got 30 1st Team All Pro votes.  Josh got 18 

I believe the AP voters may be the same  (not positive)

The fff them and the damn award. It's a damn joke if they pick Jackson.

[uticaclub]

Other than Allen who deserves any first team votes? Who would you pick on the Bills over any of the all pros? The reason Allen gets MVP consideration is because we are a 3 win team without Allen and B’more would still be a playoff team without Jackson.

Edited 5 hours ago by uticaclub

[LEBills]

Sad for Josh who deserves the MVP

 

But if he indeed doesn’t get it, only Mahomes and his contract with the devil has won both MVP and the Super Bowl in the same year since 1999 so I’m a bit relieved there. 

[ShakAttack]

For the record, Adrian Peterson was the last 2nd team all-pro to win MVP (in 2012). 
 

EDIT- Appears I was incorrect here. ChatGPT / AI failed. 

Edited 5 hours ago by ShakAttack

[FireChans]

27 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

So I guess the hope is that AP voters decided to split the baby by giving All-Pro to Lamar but MVP to Josh. Kind of an admission through the voting process that they both deserved it but Josh slightly edged him out for the more prestigious award. That's the hope anyways.

That was my prediction earlier.

 

24 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I don’t know that I realized Marlon Humphrey is now a slot corner?

The Bills taught them that. Their defense was quite bad early in the season until they put Humphrey on Shakir. He went back to outside and they were bad again.

[Chaos]

52 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Honestly, I don’t think Lamar will win. MVP is also about narrative. There’s no way I see Lamar winning 3 before he wins a SB. Plus, and I hate it because it dismisses the rest of the team, most of the national media thinks the rest of the Bills are bums. 

Not being one of the two best at your position, hardly makes one a bum.  Which players should be dropped from the current list, and which Bills should be added in their place?

[H2o]

This is good. Let them keep p*ssing Josh off and downplaying his accomplishments. We all know how much more dangerous he becomes when he feels slighted. This is the perfect time for this info to be coming out. 

[JustHewIt]

Whether the selections are justified or not this is absolutely fuel to be poured all over everything. I hope the team is absolutely frothing and out for blood Sunday. GO BILLS!

[GolfandBills]

3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

The fff them and the damn award. It's a damn joke if they pick Jackson.

How?  I don’t see it that way.  He’s certainly deserving of the award. 

[Mikie2times]

21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Okay for the first time I think Josh might not win MVP.

Odds are updating to be implied at about 65%. Still the favorite, but he's dropping for sure. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

Just now, GolfandBills said:

How?  I don’t see it that way.  He’s certainly deserving of the award. 

Fk him.

[DapperCam]

The Bills have the #2 scoring offense in the league and only 2 players on offense even got any votes.

 

Dawkins and Brown could have been 2nd team all pro in their positions for sure.

 

Meanwhile Baltimore had 7 players on offense receive votes and Detroit had 5 players on offense receive votes.

[strive_for_five_guy]

3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Odds are updating to be implied at about 65%. Still the favorite, but he's dropping for sure. 

What Sportsbook is even offering MVP odds at this point?

[Mark80]

1 hour ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

This is good.  I hope the ravens are favored next week too. 

I hope no one on the Bills is even thinking about the Ravens until after the Broncos game.

[Returntoglory]

Who really cares? 

All I know is Josh is OUR MVP!

[QB Bills]

At this point I don't even want him to win it.

 

So much nonsense had been spewed about this, a lot of it with racial undertones, that if he does end up the MVP, he's never going to get credit for it and many of these same idiots on tv will take every opportunity to mention that "he didn't deserve it back in '24 anyway". 

 

Let yet another snub fuel the fire. It's worked for him before.

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

How?  I don’t see it that way.  He’s certainly deserving of the award. 

 

Yea I don't see it that way either. I don't think Jackson getting it is a joke. He had an incredible year. But I think what Josh did this year under expectations of a step back and with an under talented receiving corps was going to get the recognition it deserved. I think there is a chance the MVP vote is tighter than the all pro. But I fear it will still be in Lamar's favour.

[MJS]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Honestly, I don’t think Lamar will win. MVP is also about narrative. There’s no way I see Lamar winning 3 before he wins a SB. Plus, and I hate it because it dismisses the rest of the team, most of the national media thinks the rest of the Bills are bums. 

Lamar Jackson is very popular in the media. Many of the voters are inclined to will Jackson into being the greatest QB in NFL history, whether it is true or not.

 

Here is the list of voters for last year. I couldn't find this year's voters in the few minutes that I searched:

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/heres-the-full-list-of-the-50-ap-awards-voters

 

I'm not a fan of many of these voters. Some of them are ex-players who got their jobs because of their names, not because of football analysis. Some of them are good. Many of them were huge Josh Allen critics until it became popular to view Josh as elite.

 

I think Jackson is going to win it. At least he had an incredible year this year. He didn't deserve it last year.

Edited 5 hours ago by MJS

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Lamar will win MVP.  He got 30 1st Team All Pro votes.  Josh got 18 

I believe the AP voters may be the same  (not positive)

I bet Allen wins MVP. This is a compromise vote. Give Lamar first team all pro and Allen MVP.

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, RyanC883 said:

haha.  Lamar.  Okay.  Can't wait to see the Steelers destroy them this weekend.  

Example A of why the MVP race is dumb. Why is there anger towards Lamar? For getting better every year? For proving how dumb (and some racist) the takes were of him having to switch positions in the nfl after winning a Heisman? 
 

Lamar has the second best qb rating ever. Allen has been insane and gets better every year. I would take Allen over Lamar but both are damn good qbs who do it their own way after being seriously doubted. 

 

I get waiting to hammer the Ravens when we play them. But this “rivalry” some Bills fans have against Lamar because he’s in the MVP conversation is dumb. 

17 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Other than Allen who deserves any first team votes? Who would you pick on the Bills over any of the all pros? The reason Allen gets MVP consideration is because we are a 3 win team without Allen and B’more would still be a playoff team without Jackson.

I think our OTs deserve some votes.