Deshaun Watson suffers 2nd achillies rupture

[Logic]

Its gotta be absolutely WILD to be as universally despised as Deshaun Watson is.

I've never seen someone rupture their Achilles and have everyone universally shrugging and saying "couldn't have happened to a nicer guy".

I suppose that's what happens when you're a serial sex offender and an arrogant schmohawk. Reap what you sow, ***** around and find out, etc, etc.

[Doc Brown]

21 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

The year Watson sat out as a Texan was due to an agreement with the team to do so. They didn’t want him to play - and neither did the league. That all said, your point about him missing so much time clearly hurt his performance on the field. He was not up to date on widespread defensive changes. He also was operating under incredible pressure due to his contract and the very well-deserved public humiliation and vitriol. Not to overstate the obvious, but it was incredibly stupid of the Browns to give that kind of person in that situation that contract. They’ve deservedly paid the price for it. The Texans did a fantastic job of finding a sucker to pay a ransom to take Watson off their hands. 

Their were three other teams now pearl clutching that also aggressively pursued Watson despite the allegations against him.  The drop off in play by him was startling to me.

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Their were three other teams now pearl clutching that also aggressively pursued Watson despite the allegations against him.  The drop off in play by him was startling to me.

True. Me too. But you never know how someone will react to that kind of public humiliation and hate. Some can be Ray Lewis and use it for fuel. Others fold or become a shell of their former selves. There was just too much risk to give those picks AND a fully guaranteed contract. The other teams were not willing to do that. Those teams also were savvy enough to require Watson to settle all outstanding cases before completing the trade. One trade fell through due to a couple holdouts on the settlement. The Browns weren’t so smart. They also misjudged how hard Goodell was going to punish him. 

Edited Thursday at 06:57 PM by BarleyNY

[BillsfaninChicago]

The great thing for the Browns is that this whole Watson deal came at such a low cost and even lower risk…

[Bills!Win!]

Wonder what Baker Mayfield thinks of all of this 

[jaybills]

On 1/10/2025 at 11:14 AM, teef said:

I just heard this.  My god.  I can’t imagine he’ll take another snap for the browns at this point.  They’re screwed with his contract, but that’s on them. 

He should retire. 

[LabattBlue]

6 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

Wonder what Baker Mayfield thinks of all of this 

I miss the Baker Progressive Insurance commercials.  😂

[Doc Brown]

16 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

Wonder what Baker Mayfield thinks of all of this 

I remember hearing the rumors that they were going to take some kid from a Mountain West school with the 1st pick over him.

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

He was a 3 time Pro Bowler following a strong rookie season that got ruined with an injury. He looked like was going to be a top 3-5 QB his last played season in Houston. 

Yards monster on a team that was always trailing 

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Their were three other teams now pearl clutching that also aggressively pursued Watson despite the allegations against him.  The drop off in play by him was startling to me.

The other big red flag in that whole debacle was his saying "Cleveland is out" then Haslam throws a brinks truck at him and suddenly hes back in

 

It was never about the best opportunity for him (That was probably Atlanta or TN) it was about money plain and simple. Since it was fully guaranteed, no incentive for him to put the effort in. He doesn't even look like a quality player half the time 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

11 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

The other big red flag in that whole debacle was his saying "Cleveland is out" then Haslam throws a brinks truck at him and suddenly hes back in

 

It was never about the best opportunity for him (That was probably Atlanta or TN) it was about money plain and simple. Since it was fully guaranteed, no incentive for him to put the effort in. He doesn't even look like a quality player half the time 

 

 

Good point.  He just did the same thing with Myles Garrett.  It's hard as an organization to go through the pain of a full rebuild but if they could've gotten a boatload of picks for Garrett, saved the money they spent on him, and be relieved of Watson's contract after next season.  They're just spinning their wheels at this point though.

[DrBob806]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

Not to overstate the obvious, but it was incredibly stupid of the Browns to give that kind of person in that situation that contract. They’ve deservedly paid the price for it. The Texans did a fantastic job of finding a sucker to pay a ransom to take Watson off their hands. 

yes, they did.

 

They also mysteriously escaped punishment from Roger Goodell. It was universally known the Texans paid for his hotel rooms,set up massages. We can beat up the Browns all we want, but this whole thing reeks of favoritism from the league office. The Texans should have never, ever been allowed to keep those 3 first round picks.

[The Jokeman]

13 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Good point.  He just did the same thing with Myles Garrett.  It's hard as an organization to go through the pain of a full rebuild but if they could've gotten a boatload of picks for Garrett, saved the money they spent on him, and be relieved of Watson's contract after next season.  They're just spinning their wheels at this point though.

So he's a horrible owner, just like Ralph Wilson was but at least Haslam spends money. 

[Mat68]

9 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

So he's a horrible owner, just like Ralph Wilson was but at least Haslam spends money. 

He also came out this offseason and took the blame for it.  Stefanski and Berry do not get nearly enough blame for souring so quickly on Mayfield.  They were out on him which opened the door for going after Watson.  Could have had Mayfield for half the money and retained the draft capital.  That is on the football people in Cleveland.  The owner bellied up to the table to fix the problem.  If he wasn't convinced Baker wasn't the answer the move doesn't take place. 

[wppete]

3 hours ago, H2o said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44615336/deshaun-watson-everyone-doubting-believe-myself

 

 

 

He's turned into a bum QB. He'll never be the same, more or less better than before. 

He’s delusional. 

[Royale with Cheese]

1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said:

The other big red flag in that whole debacle was his saying "Cleveland is out" then Haslam throws a brinks truck at him and suddenly hes back in

 

It was never about the best opportunity for him (That was probably Atlanta or TN) it was about money plain and simple. Since it was fully guaranteed, no incentive for him to put the effort in. He doesn't even look like a quality player half the time 

 

 

 

His play the last 2 seasons when he was actually healthy was bottom 3 in the league.  

[Doc Brown]

2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

So he's a horrible owner, just like Ralph Wilson was but at least Haslam spends money. 

I wouldn't go as far as horrible.  I give him credit for taking the blame on the Watson debacle and he's obviously willing to spend.  However, you'd think these owners would model themselves after other successful franchise owners and not meddle whatsoever in football decisions.

[BarleyNY]

43 minutes ago, DrBob806 said:

yes, they did.

 

They also mysteriously escaped punishment from Roger Goodell. It was universally known the Texans paid for his hotel rooms,set up massages. We can beat up the Browns all we want, but this whole thing reeks of favoritism from the league office. The Texans should have never, ever been allowed to keep those 3 first round picks.

 Yep. 100% true. The league has a habit of making an example out of one person or team - usually the worst offender in a situation. That’s why the Saints were the only team to be punished for bounties. Hammering Watson - and by extension the Browns - was enough good PR for the league. Goodell made sure that the suspension ruined the season for the Browns, but did not toll Watson’s contract. If no team would have traded for Watson, then the Texans would’ve gotten punished. 

[DrBob806]

58 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

He also came out this offseason and took the blame for it.  Stefanski and Berry do not get nearly enough blame for souring so quickly on Mayfield.  They were out on him which opened the door for going after Watson.  Could have had Mayfield for half the money and retained the draft capital.  That is on the football people in Cleveland.  The owner bellied up to the table to fix the problem.  If he wasn't convinced Baker wasn't the answer the move doesn't take place. 

When the Browns signed OBJ, it began the demise of Mayfield in Cleveland. 

 

OBJ divided the locker room. Mayfield supporters were drowned out. The Browns thought they both had to go & start fresh.

 

 

[BarleyNY]

40 minutes ago, DrBob806 said:

When the Browns signed OBJ, it began the demise of Mayfield in Cleveland. 

 

OBJ divided the locker room. Mayfield supporters were drowned out. The Browns thought they both had to go & start fresh.

 

 

Yeah. It didn’t help that Mayfield needed to grow up. He has made strides there and has become a better QB and I’m guessing leader.