Deshaun Watson suffers 2nd achillies rupture

[Mr. WEO]

guy was a flash in the pan with 1 decent season years ago.  Mentally and physically soft.  

 

Titans, Jets, Bears are close....but Browns have the worst ownership/organization for a generation.  With the way the draft is organized and revenue sharing, as an owner, you would have to actively be sabotaging your own team to have made the decisions Haslam (a legit crook) has made over the years.

[The Wiz]

Looks like his contract isn't the only thing that is going to be restructured

 

[ghostwriter]

You reap what you sow.

[Low Positive]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Yeah, as I said in the other thread,  the insurance company isn't just going to roll over and pay off a lost season when he has almost a full year to recover and play *some* football at least.   Aaron Rodgers tore his in the opener in 2023 and was damn near ready to go 4 months later.    They will expect Watson to be ready by September.

 

 

He tore it again like last week and just had a second surgery. He wouldn't be ready until 2026 minicamp at the earliest.

[Sierra Foothills]

11 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Has had surgery again. Likely to miss the 2025 season. 

 

Karma definitely got the Browns on that deal.

 

11 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

Cleveland is the only place where Karma still exists, apparently. 

 

I'm glad none of this worked out for them. 

 

It remains... a factory of sadness...

 

11 hours ago, Chaos said:

Does this allow for any sort of negotiated injury settlement? (Not sure Watson has any incentive to do that though). But Watson probably cares more about the cash than the cap hit, and if there is something that allows the Browns to get out from the cap situation, he might be willing to help with that.

 

The reason this might be plausible is if he doesn't want to play anymore. If they demanded he play and he refused, it would be breach of contract so it's not beyond the realm that the two parties could settle.

 

10 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

But karma also worked out in the owners' favor - from their perspective, this was the best possible outcome after Haslam gave out that fully-guaranteed megadeal that I am sure terrified and outraged all other 31 owners.  Now it will be years, if ever, before someone tries that again.

 

Watson's contract was unprecedented. I doubt it's a cautionary tale because it never happened before and I doubt many owners would have followed suit even if this hadn't turned into a complete disaster.

 

10 hours ago, Gugny said:

GOOD. 

 

Watson's still getting paid at this point so only one party is being punished for their misdeeds... the Browns.

 

10 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

Haven’t heard any conspiracy theories about how this is all planned between Watson and the Browns to end the entire relationship once and for all.  Watson can disappear into the sunset and the Browns can take the hit and move on.

 

The conspiracy theory is that this was done to give both sides an out. The other possible scenario is if the re-injury stemmed from a prohibited activity. If that were the case the Browns would be trying to void the contract.

 

10 hours ago, H2o said:

Hey, did you guys hear Haslam paid Watson $500k cash off the books to let them whack his achilles again, cause it to rupture, and all for the purpose of them being able to end the relationship once and for all? 

 

Why would Watson do that?

 

5 hours ago, djp14150 said:

Chicago has had a curse over it with their offense 

 

Chicago has been cursed and it has been blessed. Since 1985 Bears the city has won done well. The Cubs and White Sox have each won a World Series, the Blackhawks have won 3 Stanley Cups and the Bulls have won 6 NBA Championships. So since 1985 the city has had 12 world championships. Not Boston but not bad.

 

3 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

That is by so very the very worst trade in NFL history. They traded away the most valuable thing they had for several years to get a guy who since arriving has been abysmal. He is a PR nightmare, costs a ton of money, and sucks on the field, quite the triple threat to the team 

 

Not only that, the team sold their soul to acquire Watson. They offended many decent people by trading for him.

 

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, Low Positive said:

He tore it again like last week and just had a second surgery. He wouldn't be ready until 2026 minicamp at the earliest.

 

So a 39 year old Aaron Rodgers could be healed in 4-6 months but 29 year old DeShaun Watson would need 18 months?   I think you are confusing this with an ACL tear.   Achilles injuries for QB are not a year and a half fix.

[Billy Claude]

10 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

That is good for Cleveland BUT they still get charged $100M this and next year in cap.  Not to mention more in 2027.

It's not a total free ticket.

 

From what I understand they will get a $41M cap hit next season but very little cap hit after if the insurance pays out the $44M.  The $41M next season is already reduced from $46 due to insurance payments for missing games this season. They could easily release him post June 1 in 2026 with very little pain.

 

It is true the insurance company will investigate. The new injury has to occur while he was doing approved rehab or otherwise related to his original injury and not, for example, jet-skiing or night-clubbing.

 

Edited January 11 by Billy Claude

[BillnutinHouston]

Geez, anything for another massage!

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Not only that, the team sold their soul to acquire Watson. They offended many decent people by trading for him.

Not to mention the warehouse full of 'Flying J - Deshaun Watson 4' Slurpee cups that Haslam is now saddled with.  Poor guy. 🙄😈😇

[longtimebillsfan]

19 hours ago, teef said:

I just heard this.  My god.  I can’t imagine he’ll take another snap for the browns at this point.  They’re screwed with his contract, but that’s on them. 

The ironic thing is that they had their qb in Baker but were too impatient to let him worth through an injury riddled season.

 

The Browns are a mess.

 

 

[Gugny]

8 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Watson's still getting paid at this point so only one party is being punished for their misdeeds... the Browns.

 

Like I said. GOOD. 

[HOUSE]

I wish him a speedy recovery because he is not in our division. 

[CSBill]

It sounds cruel, and I hate that I can think and say this, but "Good!" There is no team or player who deserves this more.

 

Forgive me.

[BarleyNY]

11 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

That is good for Cleveland BUT they still get charged $100M this and next year in cap.  Not to mention more in 2027.

It's not a total free ticket.

 

It will lower the overall cap liability for the team. It was set to be $230M total. It gets lowered by every dollar that Insurance pays off on. Even if the insurer pays the team $44.3 for 2025 on top of the $13.6 for 2024, then the Browns are still on the hook for $172.1M. That ain’t nothing.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

This is brutal to say but that might be the best news the Browns front office has heard in years. Now they have the fig leaf of "oh, we was totally going to be our starter but this is a career ended, pardon us as we dump his contract, and burn this to the ground. Again"

 

They brought this upon themselves so my sympathy is muted

[GaryPinC]

19 hours ago, gomper said:

No doubt. It has to be brutal.  As Bills fans, we've seen the team we love make incredibly bad decisions too. Although, this was in a league of its own. Football is religion in Ohio. It must drive Browns fans even crazier watching Buffalo and Detroit enjoy such success, while their team continues to screw up the most important position in sports.  Oh, as an added kick in the teeth, they get to watch their castaway Mayfield, in the playoffs. 

 

Beyond brutal.  My heart goes out to them.

 

It is brutal, Bills fans have nothing to complain about by comparison.  I've lived in Cleveland since the early 90's and it's crazy what they've had to endure.  Start with the team leaving and that being known since the beginning of their last season.   Then repeated cycles of ineptitude punctuated by the Hue Jackson years:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jan/05/cleveland-browns-fans-finally-get-a-parade-only-one-they-never-hoped-for

 

Then you could see the talent coming together.  2020 they were getting close to having a winning culture and Haslam mucked it all up a year later.

 

Nothing compares to our  teams from the Superbowl years but in 2020 the Browns were akin to the 87 or 88 Bills.  Imagine if Ralph decided to get rid of Kelly and invest heavily in a tainted QB.

Closest thing I can come up with.

 

That and CLE never had anything akin to the Fitzmagic years to ease the suffering.  My heart definitely goes out to them.  They aren't much different than Bills fans.

Edited January 11 by GaryPinC

[eball]

8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

So a 39 year old Aaron Rodgers could be healed in 4-6 months but 29 year old DeShaun Watson would need 18 months?   I think you are confusing this with an ACL tear.   Achilles injuries for QB are not a year and a half fix.

 

Brain and heart transplants are, however…

 

[Doc]

I can understand how rehabbing outside of the team's supervision can void guarantees and an insurance policy can recoup money paid by the team, but (assuming he was rehabbing under the team's supervision) how does an insurance policy recoup cap space?

[H2o]

9 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Why would Watson do that?

Did you see the post I quoted in my response you quoted? You may want to go back. 

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

I wish him a speedy recovery because he is not in our division. 

If you hate Browns fans, then why don't you just say it already 

[GaryPinC]

8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

So a 39 year old Aaron Rodgers could be healed in 4-6 months but 29 year old DeShaun Watson would need 18 months?   I think you are confusing this with an ACL tear.   Achilles injuries for QB are not a year and a half fix.

Yes, but this is a re-tear several months later.  I am not a doctor but I've got to believe the 4-6 month window will be significantly longer.  That's also assuming Watson will want to work hard to get back ASAP.