MikePJ76 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 29 minutes ago, Einstein said: oh that’s a great point Yea if you are just making things up. Winning the division means something and always should. the rams beat the Vikings during the regular season so this idea that the rams are so far behind Minnesota is nonsense. If they didn’t have the injuries they had earlier in the year and tried to win the final week they may have another win or three. Quote
Richard Noggin Posted January 10 Posted January 10 12 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Yea if you are just making things up. Winning the division means something and always should. the rams beat the Vikings during the regular season so this idea that the rams are so far behind Minnesota is nonsense. If they didn’t have the injuries they had earlier in the year and tried to win the final week they may have another win or three. Your 2nd point definitely undercuts anyone's feelings of injustice for poor Minnesota. However, your first point is mostly just an appeal to tradition, and doesn't make a lot of sense that teams from other divisions should be penalized by how bad some other division is. THEN AGAIN lol, the first rule of the NFL regular season is Win Your @#$% Division. It ain't fair, but it does make for some high stakes intra-division regular season matchups. Quote
US Egg Posted January 10 Posted January 10 4 hours ago, bobobonators said: This little thing called life, I would hope, trumps a game. Seems to be escaping many, an antiquated notion apparently. Quote
chongli Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Do Minnesota fans flying in get free ticket exchanges to Phoenix? Quote
Dr Krentist Posted January 10 Posted January 10 They should have moved the game to St Louis 😆 1 1 Quote
chongli Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dr Krentist said: They should have moved the game to St Louis 😆 Some Rams fans are in agreement with you, judging from twitter. Others wanted it moved to Vegas, SF, San Diego, or even kept in place. Also, on a related note, some fans have noted the irony of moving the game to a stadium sponsored by State Farm: Edited January 10 by chongli 1 Quote
ChasBB Posted January 10 Posted January 10 21 minutes ago, chongli said: Some Rams fans are in agreement with you, judging from twitter. Others wanted it moved to Vegas, SF, San Diego, or even kept in place. Also, on a related note, some fans have noted the irony of moving the game to a stadium sponsored by State Farm: Looks like LA residents got the Bungle Rooski plan instead of the Bundle Rooski plan. 1 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted January 10 Posted January 10 8 hours ago, stevestojan said: My wife is an exec for one of the ones you see on tv every 34 seconds. The answer is no. I see Caesar’s Sportsbook has voided all previously placed LA-Minn game bets per their house rules. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted January 10 Posted January 10 10 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Unfair! Now there will be more Rams fans! Nah, there will be the same amount of fans in AZ, all four of them. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted January 10 Posted January 10 9 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: Yea if you are just making things up. Winning the division means something and always should. Why should it? For example: Why should winning your division with 9 wins mean more than winning 13 games in another division? 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 48 minutes ago, Einstein said: Why should it? For example: Why should winning your division with 9 wins mean more than winning 13 games in another division? Because that is the nfl. It ensures teams play to win the division. if Minnesota is that much better than the rams which everyone is saying here then they should win in a blowout like Dallas did at Tampa in 2022. this is a rule that should never change but I know the new generation of nfl fans care nothing about the history of the league or rivalries and are all about individual players and accomplishments. Again though If the Vikings are this much better they should win in a blowout. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted January 10 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said: Because that is the nfl. It ensures teams play to win the division. Teams would play to win the division anyway because winning the division is all about stacking as many wins as possible regardless. If anything, teams like the Bills, who have their division wrapped up a month before the season ended, would have MORE to play for if we got rid of the division home game. Because they would know the rankings go by wins instead. I never understood the "division" mentality. The only reason it matters is because the NFL gives you a home game. 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Einstein said: Teams would play to win the division anyway because winning the division is all about stacking as many wins as possible regardless. If anything, teams like the Bills, who have their division wrapped up a month before the season ended, would have MORE to play for if we got rid of the division home game. Because they would know the rankings go by wins instead. I never understood the "division" mentality. The only reason it matters is because the NFL gives you a home game. I think the division format is so embedded in professional sports leagues, it will be tough to change in the NFL. The owners aren’t exactly cutting edge when it comes to new ideas and innovation. The division home and home series also fosters rivalries and that is good for the leagues and makes for excitement for the fans. Similarly, the conference format is a relic of the NFL/AFL days and is not as relevant anymore with interconference regular season games. Edited January 10 by WotAGuy Quote
chongli Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Einstein said: . I never understood the "division" mentality. The only reason it matters is because the NFL gives you a home game. You used to get a bye (but not necessarily a home game -- see Bills 1980 and 1989) in the 80's for winning your division. Edited January 10 by chongli Quote
Einstein Posted January 10 Posted January 10 8 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: The division home and home series also fosters rivalries and that is good for the leagues and makes for excitement for the fans. Agreed. I dont want to get rid of divisions. Keep them. But I dont think a 13 win team should have to go on the road to a 9 win team in the playoffs (for example) just because the 9 win team plays in a weaker division. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 11 minutes ago, Einstein said: Teams would play to win the division anyway because winning the division is all about stacking as many wins as possible regardless. If anything, teams like the Bills, who have their division wrapped up a month before the season ended, would have MORE to play for if we got rid of the division home game. Because they would know the rankings go by wins instead. I never understood the "division" mentality. The only reason it matters is because the NFL gives you a home game. how would the bills have more to play for? If you win your division you get a higher seed and if you have the best record of the division winners you get the 1 seed and a bye. So nothing would have been different for buffalo this year. Once they lost to the rams the 1 seed was essentially out. if divisions and the history of the game doesn't make sense to you why stop there, lets make field goals worth more points the farther they are away, inside the 25, 1 pt, inside the 50 3 points over 50 5 points.....whats the difference and this would give teams more incentive to not punt and make games more exciting. maybe interceptions should start being worth 2 points like a safety. I mean who cares about the tradition and history of the league. I am pulling for the rams to win this game and the bucs too for that matter to further enforce how important it is to win your division and get a home game. 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted January 10 Posted January 10 20 minutes ago, Einstein said: Agreed. I dont want to get rid of divisions. Keep them. But I dont think a 13 win team should have to go on the road to a 9 win team in the playoffs (for example) just because the 9 win team plays in a weaker division. This argument comes up every time the situation unfolds like this and the owners are not concerned. I think there will have to be more owners pounding the table about this being unfair before anything will happen. Who knows, the owners may like it this way because it’s easier to build a 9-win division winner than a 14-win team. 🤷🏻♂️ 1 Quote
T master Posted January 10 Posted January 10 15 hours ago, Steptide said: Prayers up for all those people out in Cali effected by these fires !! They have a lot more important things on their mind other than a football game for sure, kind of puts some things in perspective ! After seeing some of the pictures on the news my heart goes out to all those that have lost so much due to the conditions out there ! 1 Quote
Einstein Posted January 10 Posted January 10 35 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Once they lost to the rams the 1 seed was essentially out. That's blatantly not true, but you seem stubborn so have it your way. Quote
T master Posted January 10 Posted January 10 44 minutes ago, chongli said: You used to get a bye in the 80's or winning your division. Seems to make some sense especially when our Bills are the number 2 seed in the entire AFC it doesn't seem right that they should be in the wild card round sitting at #2 but it is what it is and i'm sure Highmark will be a rabid scene this weekend !! GO BILLS !!! 1 Quote
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