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41 minutes ago, Just in Atlanta said:

It struck me how much of a golf swing was actually in the hips and how off-center the golf club should actually be, both of which did not feel natural, but after 100 reps felt good.

 

Everything comes from the core.  Throwing, pitching, swinging a golf club, swinging a bat, all the same principles.  All the energy comes from the core and is transferred through your arms and hands to the ball/bat/club.  If you start with your arms/hands, no energy gets transferred and you're a lot more likely to injure your arm because it's doing all the work.

 

My son plays college baseball and it's just a massive difference between how he learned to hit and how us old guys were all taught in the '70s and '80s.  I get in the cage on a lark and I can feel I'm all arms and hands.  I can still hit at my advanced age, but not with anywhere near the power he has, and it's not just because he's a hell of a lot stronger than me.

 

Josh has the physical gifts to throw and play at a very high level despite mechanical flaws.  Now that he's fixed those... that's why he's a unicorn.  Most guys with those physical gifts never feel the need to correct their flaws.

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On 1/9/2025 at 8:49 PM, Richard Noggin said:

LOVE nerding out on this stuff. So cool. "Rotational athletics" (referenced by Allen in vid) encompasses a range of popular American sports, and the fundamental best practices of rotational throwing (and swinging) actually run counter to how many youth QBs have been taught to handle the ball and throw. 

 

Think of what Rodgers (I know, forgive me) looked like in college: classic football drop-back fundamentals with two hands on the ball, up really high around his damned ear hole, and then a mostly over-the-top motion and release. What has always been called "classic" with respect to NFL QBing. (Helps with ball security and clearing the first line of defenders, but not at all "correct" from the more general perspective of human body biometric optimization.) 

 

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Then think of what Rodgers became known for in the NFL: lower/multiple arm angles and absolutely spinning the ball. Never before had I seen such a fundamental transformation in mechanics. I've always been obsessed with how top athletes throw the way they do. Really had a lot of respect for the way this particular athlete worked on his game. Of course, he had like FOUR seasons to perfect his personal craft before we really saw him again lol.

 

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Ha, pulled a sneaky on ya. But you get the drift. 

 


Me too. The Rodgers transformation doesn’t get enough scope. Considering it went from totally mechanical to looking like he fell out of the Garden of Eden tree tossing a football and hitting every leaf. …I mean, you get it.. what the hell was that?! I’ll say, Allen was so so smart to embrace this ‘rotational’ advice. His transformation might not be as physically evident to the plebs, but in a parallel way both he and Rodgers have absolutely left an unknown career path for the one straightway to the Hall of *****in Fame. Crazy stuff 

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13 hours ago, billrooter said:

Yeah I know but it all the years I've watched football I haven't seen many guys improve their accuracy like he has.

It wasn't an accuracy issue... Go back and rewatch every single throw from Wyoming 

 

He made some crazy insane throws.. throws that kids with accuracy issues can't make in their dreams

 

He had inconsistency issues which is different 

 

He had the same problem his rookie year in Buffalo... Made some crazy good throws than some head scratchers 

 

That's inconsistency issues related to his sloppy Mechanics.. not being pure  inaccurate which really won't get fixed

 

 

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5 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:


Me too. The Rodgers transformation doesn’t get enough scope. Considering it went from totally mechanical to looking like he fell out of the Garden of Eden tree tossing a football and hitting every leaf. …I mean, you get it.. what the hell was that?! I’ll say, Allen was so so smart to embrace this ‘rotational’ advice. His transformation might not be as physically evident to the plebs, but in a parallel way both he and Rodgers have absolutely left an unknown career path for the one straightway to the Hall of *****in Fame. Crazy stuff 

 

I think Allen has quite a way to go to reach a Rodgers level of "transformation"

 

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18 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

It wasn't an accuracy issue... Go back and rewatch every single throw from Wyoming 

 

He made some crazy insane throws.. throws that kids with accuracy issues can't make in their dreams

 

He had inconsistency issues which is different 

 

He had the same problem his rookie year in Buffalo... Made some crazy good throws than some head scratchers 

 

That's inconsistency issues related to his sloppy Mechanics.. not being pure  inaccurate which really won't get fixed

 

 

Yeah don't have the time or need to rewatch every throw but my statement still rings through accuracy issues do not turn around much at all like his did. Whatever the problem in the mechanics were or are from now on, he corrected his issue which is an oddity!

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