Allen biometrics

[C.Biscuit97]

Not sure if this has been shared but I thought this was awesome. He is truly a unicorn who put in so much work to become the player he has become. Truly impressive. 
 

 

[That's No Moon]

Do cyborgs have biometrics?

[C.Biscuit97]

2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Do cyborgs have biometrics?

The thing with Allen is actually has too much of a personality to be a cyborg. Now Russell Wilson or Justin Herbert? 🤔

[Your Brown Eye]

I thought "alien" was the phrase of the month?

[Doc]

Good to see Aikman own being wrong about Josh.  But to be fair, I think Josh is a unicorn in that department.  I can't think of anyone else doing it before.

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

Good to see Aikman own being wrong about Josh.  But to be fair, I think Josh is a unicorn in that department.  I can't think of anyone else doing it before.

I readily own doubting Josh. I doubted that Bills would be competent enough to develop a qb like Allen. Salute to him for making huge changes that 99% of qbs could never do. Never been happier to wrong. 
 

Josh Alien is a unicorn 

[Doc]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I readily own doubting Josh. I doubted that Bills would be competent enough to develop a qb like Allen. Salute to him for making huge changes that 99% of qbs could never do. Never been happier to wrong. 
 

Josh Alien is a unicorn 

 

Same here.  I didn't want him because I didn't think there was any way he could become accurate since I've never seen it done before, at least in the 30 years I've been watching football, regardless of the franchise.

 

 

[MDH]

It's funny, the thing that made Baker the first pick of the draft was how many reps he had taken at QB throughout his life. HS, College, camps, etc. Allen was thousands of reps behind him. But if Allen had all those reps, he never would have been able to switch his throwing motion so quickly (if at all.) It's the fact that he didn't have them that allowed him to do so.

[julian]

Monster and cyborg are words I use the most often every Bills game day after every Allen ridiculous play.

[BearNorth]

3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I readily own doubting Josh. I doubted that Bills would be competent enough to develop a qb like Allen. Salute to him for making huge changes that 99% of qbs could never do. Never been happier to wrong. 
 

Josh Alien is a unicorn 

What makes Josh special is that he actually surpasses his measurables in game situations.  How many QB's have won Angry Runs running over a LB?  His speed is listed at 4.75 40, but he seems to exceed that in game situations.  He makes throws with his arm talent that have coaches going NO! NO! NO! - NICE PASS.

[Augie]

21 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Do cyborgs have biometrics?

 

Have you seen the Tin Man lately? Oil my ass. The Rock used to look like Kevin Hart.  

 

 

Oh, and steroids. For machines, it’s new. Can’t leave that out. 

[The Jokeman]

Just now, Doc said:

 

Same here.  I didn't want him because I didn't think there was any way he could become accurate since I've never seen it done before, at least in the 30 years I've been watching football, regardless of the franchise.

 

 

Same Josh to me read as a guy in college who relied only on his physical skills and would never develop into a guy who'd learn to take what a defense give him nor nuances of reading defense. It felt just like the anti Tom Brady where Josh Rosen seemed the more NFL ready guy. Kudos to us getting the right despite my thoughts on draft day.

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

What makes Josh special is that he actually surpasses his measurables in game situations.  How many QB's have won Angry Runs running over a LB?  His speed is listed at 4.75 40, but he seems to exceed that in game situations.  He makes throws with his arm talent that have coaches going NO! NO! NO! - NICE PASS.

 

His Combine run was very awkward.  He probably really runs in the mid 4.6s.

[C.Biscuit97]

10 minutes ago, MDH said:

It's funny, the thing that made Baker the first pick of the draft was how many reps he had taken at QB throughout his life. HS, College, camps, etc. Allen was thousands of reps behind him. But if Allen had all those reps, he never would have been able to switch his throwing motion so quickly (if at all.) It's the fact that he didn't have them that allowed him to do so.

That’s a great point. Also because Allen was never a star or played in an elite program, he has no ego like some of the big name college guys. He was a mold of clay that was willing to listen. 

7 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Same Josh to me read as a guy in college who relied only on his physical skills and would never develop into a guy who'd learn to take what a defense give him nor nuances of reading defense. It felt just like the anti Tom Brady where Josh Rosen seemed the more NFL ready guy. Kudos to us getting the right despite my thoughts on draft day.

And those type of prospects fail 99%of the time. I hate the high upside, not great production prospects. I remember saying we expect a guy to be better in the AFC East than he was in the Mountain West? I couldn’t believe how dumb that sounded and the Bills/ Allen made me the dumb one for once!!!

 

and I don’t care. I still think Rosen could have had a better career if he didn’t get drafted into the worst situation for a rookie qb. 

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

His Combine run was very awkward.  He probably really runs in the mid 4.6s.

It’s insane how much faster/ athletic he looks in pads than he did running in shorts. It makes no sense. Josh Alien. 

[Buffalo716]

19 minutes ago, MDH said:

It's funny, the thing that made Baker the first pick of the draft was how many reps he had taken at QB throughout his life. HS, College, camps, etc. Allen was thousands of reps behind him. But if Allen had all those reps, he never would have been able to switch his throwing motion so quickly (if at all.) It's the fact that he didn't have them that allowed him to do so.

Allen and Baker both only started 2 years in high school 

 

Baker walked on at Texas tech left walked on Oklahoma and became a star in college 

 

His chip on his shoulder was also a major reason why he exploded onto the scene because he was also forgotten about 

 

He did have a few offers to small schools but every major Texas school wouldn't give him an offer either just like Josh and the California schools

[Low Positive]

29 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I readily own doubting Josh. I doubted that Bills would be competent enough to develop a qb like Allen. Salute to him for making huge changes that 99% of qbs could never do. Never been happier to wrong. 
 

Josh Alien is a unicorn 

Remember this thread after the Texans playoff loss?

 

[DCofNC]

I think they failed to discuss the arm arrogance it takes to do all this.

[HappyDays]

16 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Remember this thread after the Texans playoff loss?

 

 

Good find. There is some levelheaded skepticism in there but also some really embarrassing takes. It's funny in hindsight because in that game Allen had Cody Ford, Devin Singletary, and Duke Williams as primary starters. He had barely learned the position yet and he had backups or worse on the field with him.

[MJS]

26 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Remember this thread after the Texans playoff loss?

 

Remember the Debbie Downer thread recently? If you want to see who some of those are, go look at the list of posters who voted "No" in that poll. A good chunk of those are the Debbie Downers, haha. And today they are still posting negatively. Some things never change.

[GaryPinC]

46 minutes ago, MDH said:

It's funny, the thing that made Baker the first pick of the draft was how many reps he had taken at QB throughout his life. HS, College, camps, etc. Allen was thousands of reps behind him. But if Allen had all those reps, he never would have been able to switch his throwing motion so quickly (if at all.) It's the fact that he didn't have them that allowed him to do so.

It's a good theory but I don't agree.  Josh is singularly dedicated to doing what it takes to win.  No matter what his background,  if his accuracy was struggling in the NFL he would have taken the same thing to fix.

 

To illustrate my point, look how much Josh has changed from hero ball downfield to reading the D and spreading it around.  The last time he tried hero ball was in the Houston game against Diggs.  That style was ingrained in him and got him to Wyoming but he transformed himself.