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1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:

He's the last person we want running the jets. He will turn that franchise around fast

 

He's the one who advised the fords to hire Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell 

Don't underestimate Woody Johnson.

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18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea if he wanted to be a GM why not hire himself in Detroit? I think he could do a good job as a leader, direction setter and cohesion builder but not sure he is a talent evaluator.

I’m not sure he was ready to be a GM at that time. He had no front office experience when he joined the lions. 

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2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:


I thought it was wife’s breast cancer that was the end for him..  if memory serves, he chose his marriage over his career.  I was proud of his choice, but I’m sure the concussions and other matter also contributed to it.

 

The bottom line is is he’s been in some way in the front office for awhile, so if deserved, good for him.  I’m a fan as well at least as a player.

He had a neck injury halfway through the Bills season in 1997.  Rehabbed, then took 1998 off to deal with his wife's illness.  Bills released him and he signed with the Browns, but reinjured the neck and had to retire.

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3 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

He's the last person we want running the jets. He will turn that franchise around fast

 

He's the one who advised the fords to hire Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell 

At the same point, the lions are absolutely loaded because Holmes might be the best GM in the nfl. I love Campbell but he is just the crazy guy who goes for on 4th down and is fired in 2 years if he’s the Raiders coach. 

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2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

At the same point, the lions are absolutely loaded because Holmes might be the best GM in the nfl. I love Campbell but he is just the crazy guy who goes for on 4th down and is fired in 2 years if he’s the Raiders coach. 

 

And because other teams are dumb. Penei Sewell should never have falled to #6 in that class and Aiden Hutchinson should never have fallen to #2 in his class either. Not to dismiss some of what Holmes has done elsewhere with St Brown, Joseph, Branch and LaPorta on days 2 and 3 of drafts but they were gifted two elite players at premium positions by dumb franchises like the Bengals, Dolphins and Jaguars.

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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And because other teams are dumb. Penei Sewell should never have falled to #6 in that class and Aiden Hutchinson should never have fallen to #2 in his class either. Not to dismiss some of what Holmes has done elsewhere with St Brown, Joseph, Branch and LaPorta on days 2 and 3 of drafts but they were gifted two elite players at premium positions by dumb franchises like the Bengals, Dolphins and Jaguars.

I feel like some of that is hindsight. Are the Bengals really dumb for taking Chase? Or the Jags for taking Lawrence who was thought to be a generational qb talent (never got it but he was)? Sewell is a RT. Most teams can’t afford to take a RT that high. Never got Walker going #2. That was incredibly stupid. 

 

I think when you start stacking up good players, it raises up the talent you have. Some of those players aren’t as good on other teams.  We are living in a world where the Bills and Lions are model nfl teams. The world is about to end, 

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18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

At the same point, the lions are absolutely loaded because Holmes might be the best GM in the nfl. I love Campbell but he is just the crazy guy who goes for on 4th down and is fired in 2 years if he’s the Raiders coach. 

I have brad Holmes as executive of the year because he has been awesome in building the roster and then awesome again getting guys off the waiver for fill ins because of injuries. 

 

He reminds me so much of this eras gil Brandt. 

 

His eye for talent is elite 

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3 hours ago, stevewin said:

My favorite Speilman story when he was with the Bills is he said when he was at home or anywhere he would always go up and down stairs sideways to work on his lateral movement.  Can you imagine?

what ? Doesnt everyone ?

Now try getttin up AND down stairs  backwards. wear a helmet for beginners lol

 

 Yes Chris was a very good player , and is a good dude. Jets would be a huge lift/challenge though

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8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I feel like some of that is hindsight. Are the Bengals really dumb for taking Chase? Or the Jags for taking Lawrence who was thought to be a generational qb talent (never got it but he was)? Sewell is a RT. Most teams can’t afford to take a RT that high. Never got Walker going #2. That was incredibly stupid. 

 

I think when you start stacking up good players, it raises up the talent you have. Some of those players aren’t as good on other teams.  We are living in a world where the Bills and Lions are model nfl teams. The world is about to end, 

 

Sewell ia playing right tackle. The same as Tristan Wirfs did when he came into the league because his team had a vet LT. I said Wirfs would be an all pro LT and he is about to be. Sewell will be too, he is even better. Sewell is the best tackle I have ever seen come into the league in my 22 years watching. Not hindsight. I said on draft day the Bengals should have taken him, not taking away at all from how good Chase is, and I still think that. And if they didn't Miami should have. There is no way he should evet have reached #7. The word generational is overused at draft time. Penei Sewell was generational. 

 

And then the Jags I am on about passing on Hutchinson for Travon Walker. I wouldn't quite put Hutch in the generational talent bucket with Sewell but he was CLEARLY the best player in that draft. Taking Walker over him was dumb, dumb, dumb. 

 

So I do think Brad Holmes has done a fine job. But those first two cornerstone pieces were handed to him on a plate by dumb franchises.

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16 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:


I thought it was wife’s breast cancer that was the end for him..  if memory serves, he chose his marriage over his career.  I was proud of his choice, but I’m sure the concussions and other matter also contributed to it.

 

The bottom line is is he’s been in some way in the front office for awhile, so if deserved, good for him.  I’m a fan as well at least as a player.

Nice revision..... He did have a bad neck injury and then when his wife cancer arose, he took the year off. Lastly he tried a comeback with the Browns a year later, but the neck injury caused him to abandon his comeback during the preseason. 

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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Sewell ia playing right tackle. The same as Tristan Wirfs did when he came into the league because his team had a vet LT. I said Wirfs would be an all pro LT and he is about to be. Sewell will be too, he is even better. Sewell is the best tackle I have ever seen come into the league in my 22 years watching. Not hindsight. I said on draft day the Bengals should have taken him, not taking away at all from how good Chase is, and I still think that. And if they didn't Miami should have. There is no way he should evet have reached #7. The word generational is overused at draft time. Penei Sewell was generational. 

 

And then the Jags I am on about passing on Hutchinson for Travon Walker. I wouldn't quite put Hutch in the generational talent bucket with Sewell but he was CLEARLY the best player in that draft. Taking Walker over him was dumb, dumb, dumb. 

 

So I do think Brad Holmes has done a fine job. But those first two cornerstone pieces were handed to him on a plate by dumb franchises.

 

the DE from michigan looks like a giant monster, but while sewell is obviously a great player, I thought Brown outplayed him over the last month of the season.  I suppose the consistency would put sewell over brown, but brown is at least close.

 

I think ex players generally don't make the best coaches, but there seems to be a select few of them that are just super top flight personnel guys.  Spielman, lynch, both just know how to identify players who bring juice, and ozzy newsome might be the best of all.  I remember ozzy had a selection critera and his three main attributes were height/weight, speed, and temperament.  baltimore over his span had more top 2 round hits at more positions than any other team i can think of, but where it kinda stood out to me was how he did getting veterans signed in free agency.  shannon sharp, rod woodson, mcnair, steve smith, all of them played some really good football for his teams coming in on discounted contracts vs what they did.  i think someone with eyes like that is what we are missing in buffalo.  our free agent signings for dline and WR have generally not been up to snuff.

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58 minutes ago, colin said:

 

the DE from michigan looks like a giant monster, but while sewell is obviously a great player, I thought Brown outplayed him over the last month of the season.  I suppose the consistency would put sewell over brown, but brown is at least close.

 

I think ex players generally don't make the best coaches, but there seems to be a select few of them that are just super top flight personnel guys.  Spielman, lynch, both just know how to identify players who bring juice, and ozzy newsome might be the best of all.  I remember ozzy had a selection critera and his three main attributes were height/weight, speed, and temperament.  baltimore over his span had more top 2 round hits at more positions than any other team i can think of, but where it kinda stood out to me was how he did getting veterans signed in free agency.  shannon sharp, rod woodson, mcnair, steve smith, all of them played some really good football for his teams coming in on discounted contracts vs what they did.  i think someone with eyes like that is what we are missing in buffalo.  our free agent signings for dline and WR have generally not been up to snuff.

 

I have said if I had an all pro vote my votes at Right Tackle would have been:

 

1. Penei Sewell

2. Spencer Brown

 

But Sewell is phenomenal. Truly generational. And he is going to be a dominant left tackle when he switches too. If I was starting a franchise and I was allowed first pick of any non-Quarterback I'd pick Sewell. 

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18 hours ago, sunshynman said:

Yes, that Chris Spielman. Former LB for the Buffalo Bills (96-97). Currently the CEO and special assistant to the owner in Detroit. He is seen as a big reason for the resurgence in Detroit.

 

Has had a very good career. 

 

His playing years with the Lions (88-95): 

First-team All-Pro (1991)

2× Second-team All-Pro (1992, 1994)

4× Pro Bowl (1989–1991, 1994)

NFL solo tackles co-leader (1994)

PFWA All-Rookie Team (1988)

 

Inducted into Pride of the Lions (Lions Hall of Fame). 

 

His Brother Rick is part of the team looking to select the next GM for the Jets. 

As much as respect Chris as a player, not sure if this a token interview to open doors to other interviews but never been a fan of nepotism. 

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6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Sewell ia playing right tackle. The same as Tristan Wirfs did when he came into the league because his team had a vet LT. I said Wirfs would be an all pro LT and he is about to be. Sewell will be too, he is even better. Sewell is the best tackle I have ever seen come into the league in my 22 years watching. Not hindsight. I said on draft day the Bengals should have taken him, not taking away at all from how good Chase is, and I still think that. And if they didn't Miami should have. There is no way he should evet have reached #7. The word generational is overused at draft time. Penei Sewell was generational. 

 

And then the Jags I am on about passing on Hutchinson for Travon Walker. I wouldn't quite put Hutch in the generational talent bucket with Sewell but he was CLEARLY the best player in that draft. Taking Walker over him was dumb, dumb, dumb. 

 

So I do think Brad Holmes has done a fine job. But those first two cornerstone pieces were handed to him on a plate by dumb franchises.

A lot better than Fine. St Brown, Branch, the Goff trade is one of the greatest trades ever, LaPorta, the RBs (which he got killed on for taking Gibbs that high) - that team is absolutely loaded.

 

Im not taking away from how Greta those 2 guys and how much they helped. But they are also benefiting from being on an awesome team as well. Sewell could be Joe Thomas on the Browns and the Bengals had the sack leader. The lions are a great franchise and makes olayers reach their ceiling. 

49 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have said if I had an all pro vote my votes at Right Tackle would have been:

 

1. Penei Sewell

2. Spencer Brown

 

But Sewell is phenomenal. Truly generational. And he is going to be a dominant left tackle when he switches too. If I was starting a franchise and I was allowed first pick of any non-Quarterback I'd pick Sewell. 

I don’t disagree but there is a difference between LT and RT. Odds are he will be amazing but he still really hasn’t done it at the nfl level. 
 

and based on the way he made Darold (and every qb he has played with) not look like a scrub, I’d go Jefferson. But we’re splitting hairs. 

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15 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

At the same point, the lions are absolutely loaded because Holmes might be the best GM in the nfl. I love Campbell but he is just the crazy guy who goes for on 4th down and is fired in 2 years if he’s the Raiders coach. 

Campbell assembled a staff of nobody's in the NFL and both his coordinators will be HC's.  Not to mention leading one of the all time turnarounds. The Lions were at the Jets level of dysfunction. He deserves a lot of credit and I imagine is one of the top 3-5 in the NFL. 

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