Pin the Head Coach on the Donkey....

[Mr. WEO]

47 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think that is right on Brady. Both Brady and Ben Johnson are realistic "no thanks" guys to me. Because they can both be pretty confident of still being among the top names last year and as I keep saying, this year's market is stacked with bad jobs. I know that's always the case to an extent but normally there are one or two where you see a patch to win quickly. Not sure that is the case this year. 

 

Yea I've seen that too. It does make sense to a degree. The Bears want two things: 1. a leader; 2. a guy who can fix the offense. With most people the bigger Q is #2, with Johnson it's #1. 

 

who in the Bears organization is fit to judge the leadership skills of anyone?  That ownership is a freak show.

[NewEra]

17 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

I could see Sean’s seat getting warmer with that outcome, it will be a tuff game likely, but we will handle the ponies, and move on. 

I agree….but a loss on Sunday and I’d fire him and get an offensive guy so Josh doesn’t have to deal with a new OC every 1-2 years.  
 

we’re supposed to be getting better year after year and we are getting worse if we lose on Sunday-  no way that a defensive HC with the best QB on the planet lose to a WC team led by a rookie QB that has beaten one decent team all season. 
 

I’m a fan of McD, but a loss Sunday and he needs to go

 

[JohnNord]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Okay, Black Monday was a damp squib but with Antonio Pierce's firing we are at technically seven openings right now. However, I am pretty sure McCarthy and Dallas are going to come to an agreement on an extension in the next week after the Cowboys refused him permission to interview with the Bears. It feels like there is a mutual interest in continuing that relationship so I am going to exclude them for now, which leaves us with six. The game is quite simple: predict who will end up as the Head Coach in each of the six spots:

 

New England Patriots - Mike Vrabel - I think this one is the easiest to peg. The Patriots have raced through their two Rooney Rule interviews (with Pep Hamilton and Byron Leftwich) and I feel like Mayo's firing was in part triggered by the thought of Vrabel taking the Jets job. Kraft has also shown he is willing to give out a large degree of personnel control to coaches and I think that is what Vrabel is looking for. 

New York Jets - Aaron Glenn - Which will leave the Jets looking at plan B. I suspect plan B is Aaron Glenn and if they can snag the Lions defensive coordinator I think they will. The Saints are in play for him too. 

Chicago Bears - Ben Johnson - Johnson has told the Jets they might as well not bother putting in an interview request and is leaning towards declining an interview with the Jaguars. That leaves the Bears and the Patriots as his two options. He could decide to return to Detroit again as OC. The Bears is a job with a decent roster, a young 1st overall pick at QB... but in the toughest division in football. 

New Orleans Saints - Joe Brady - Mickey Loomis will be the man making this hire and the speculation is the three real candidates are the three guys the 69 year old GM already knows and is comfortable with: Aaron Glenn, Joe Brady and interim coach Darren Rizzi. I suspect their preference would be in that order too. If Glenn doesn't go to the Jets he gets hired here. If he does then Joe Brady is the man in line. If he passes to stay with the Bills they will hire Rizzi and no doubt do the whole thing again in two years time. 

Jacksonville Jaguars - Liam Coen - The Jags are hard to pin my guess is they end up going with another offensive mind in a last ditch attempt to turn around the career of Trevor Lawrence. Coen's work with the Buccs offense has shot him into contention and unlike Johnson and Brady who might feel confident betting on themselves to be in contention again next year is they don't fancy jobs in this cycle, Coen feels a bit like a now or never guy.  

Las Vegas Raiders - Brian Flores - Tom Brady's influence here makes me feel like they are going to try and "Patriot Way" themselves out of the current mess. I'm sure they'd love to snag Vrabel but if he goes back to New England then maybe Belichick's former defensive coordinator who went 24-18 after starting 0-7 in his three seasons as the Dolphins Head Coach. 

 

 

There is my attempt. Fire away with yours. 

 

Solid picks… I’m not so sure Glenn ends up with NYJ.  I can see him in NO.  
 

I think there’s also going to be a wildcard name this season, as there usually is, that will shake everything up.  
 

 

 

[JohnNord]

Just now, NewEra said:

I agree….but a loss on Sunday and I’d fire him and get an offensive guy so Josh doesn’t have to deal with a new OC every 1-2 years.  
 

we’re supposed to be getting better year after year and we are getting worse if we lose on Sunday-  no way that a defensive HC with the best QB on the planet lose to a WC team led by a rookie QB that has beaten one decent team all season. 
 

I’m a fan of McD, but a loss Sunday and he needs to go

 

You are 100% crazy if you think he’ll be fired after an upset loss to Denver.   It’s not going to happen.  Read up on the Buffalo Sabres.  Everyone knows they are a complete mess and have been for years, yet Terry continues to empower GM Kevyn Adams.   Most owners likely would have fired Adams by now, but Terry likes and trusts him and continues to give him chances to get it right.  McDermott is about 1000x more successful than Adams.  

 

The Bills are a professional, successful, respected, well-run organization thanks to McDermott.  Terry is not going to risk screwing up his most high-profile and profitable Buffalo business.  
 

Also think back to last season when the Bills dropped to 6-6 on the fringe of missing the playoffs.  Tim Graham reported there was a ZERO percent chance McDermott would get fired per team sources.

 

So can want him to be fired.  Or you can think he should be fired.  But the reality is he won’t be fired should the team lose to Denver.  It’s just not going to happen this season.  

[machine gun kelly]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Good stuff.  But you’re missing a “dark horse” like Gruden going back to the Raiders, or Carroll finding a chair before the music stops.  There is almost always one head-scratcher and I expect the same will happen this cycle.

Interesting minds think alike.  Carroll is a decent candidate for Chicago.  Chicago desperately needs a seasoned leader, one who will get the Bears defense working again, and a promising running game as he did at the Jets, USC, and Seattle.  He’s an up tempo coach who motivates his teams.  Caleb would benefit from those two aspects and Carroll will groom his replacement in 2-3 years and get their program back to viability.

 

As much as I like Ben Johnson, he’s meant for a different type of team.

 

I like Johnson, but if he ends up getting an experienced QB, he will flourish at his first HC gig.

 

GB, I forgot to say thanks as you’re posts are always thoughtful and insightful.

[NewEra]

23 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

You are 100% crazy if you think he’ll be fired after an upset loss to Denver.   It’s not going to happen.  Read up on the Buffalo Sabres.  Everyone knows they are a complete mess and have been for years, yet Terry continues to empower GM Kevyn Adams.   Most owners likely would have fired Adams by now, but Terry likes and trusts him and continues to give him chances to get it right.  McDermott is about 1000x more successful than Adams.  

 

The Bills are a professional, successful, respected, well-run organization thanks to McDermott.  Terry is not going to risk screwing up his most high-profile and profitable Buffalo business.  
 

Also think back to last season when the Bills dropped to 6-6 on the fringe of missing the playoffs.  Tim Graham reported there was a ZERO percent chance McDermott would get fired per team sources.

 

So can want him to be fired.  Or you can think he should be fired.  But the reality is he won’t be fired should the team lose to Denver.  It’s just not going to happen this season.  

I’m not saying I think he WOULD be fired.  I think he SHOULD be fired if we lose on Sunday.  

[GunnerBill]

43 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

who in the Bears organization is fit to judge the leadership skills of anyone?  That ownership is a freak show.

 

Fair point, well made.

[JP51]

 

 

New England Patriots - Mike Vrabel -  I think Kraft will go with who he knows solid head coach who he thinks will settle them down and bring back Credibility

 

New York Jets -  Rex Ryan cause the Jets gonna Jets

 

Chicago Bears - Ron Rivera -   Gonna get the band and nostalgia back together lol 

 

New Orleans Saints - Aaron Glenn  -  building thru Defense until they get a QB

 

Jacksonville Jaguars -  Robert Saleh I think he goes back to his roots

 

Las Vegas Raiders - Brian Flores  Seems like a Raiders coach.

 

 

[T master]

4 hours ago, DJB said:

I think the only way Joe Brady leaves is if the Bills win a SB. 
 

I feel confident he runs it back if we don’t 

 

Man I hope he wins one this year and realizes that if he were to stay with the Bills after what he's accomplished this season his first full season then given the draft picks they have & the talent he can acquire the history he could make and then he could probably have his choice of any gig he wants & name his price .

 

Not really sure if he does leave who would be a good choice to take his place because if he goes all the good ones will probably be gone as well by the time he signs his new contract . And who knows maybe he might think of how much more is involved with being a HC that he may not want that much responsibility just yet .

 

Even if he does move on our Bills will still be a very good team but having a really good OC sure does help !! GO BILLS !!! 

[TheFunPolice]

What's incredible is that Mike Mularkey was hired by 3 different teams as HC, so I wouldn't rule out an "out of left field" type hire somewhere, likely with the Raiders. 

 

My prediction for the Raiders is Pete Carroll. 

Edited 23 hours ago by TheFunPolice

[Coach Tuesday]

Belichick was contacted by Brady about the Raiders job:

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/bill-belichick-potential-nfl-return-raiders-tom-brady-multiple-teams

[Magox]

If I was a young guy with a really good offensive mind I would only want to go where there is a promising QB.

 

Chicago

New England

and maybe Jacksonville.

 

I wouldn’t take the chance on a QB needy team to very possibly face being fired after 2-3 years with real possibility of maybe not even getting an OC job offer.

 

Find the right situation

[BuffaloBillyG]

Idk, something about Hoodie returning to the NFL and taking over the Raiders just seems....fitting

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/bill-belichick-potential-nfl-return-raiders-tom-brady-multiple-teams

[julian]

I think you pretty much nailed it on these predictions, I’ll only disagree with Flores who I don’t think will get a head job this cycle because I believe a little more time is needed for damage control.

[Solomon Grundy]

3 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

I could see Sean’s seat getting warmer with that outcome, it will be a tuff game likely, but we will handle the ponies, and move on. 

Can't see Pegula moving on from McDermott

[That's No Moon]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Idk, something about Hoodie returning to the NFL and taking over the Raiders just seems....fitting

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/bill-belichick-potential-nfl-return-raiders-tom-brady-multiple-teams

That division would be pretty rough. Reid, Payton, Harbaugh, and Hoody? Yeesh. 

[FireChans]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Idk, something about Hoodie returning to the NFL and taking over the Raiders just seems....fitting

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/bill-belichick-potential-nfl-return-raiders-tom-brady-multiple-teams

The exact place he is the worst fit for him.

 

If BB or the org are serious about winning, you don’t hire him to a team that needs a full reset everywhere including QB.

 

I think BB on the Bears is a better fit and I think that’s not even that good of a fit. 

[White Linen]

Joe Brady makes 1.8 mil and is the 8th highest paid OC.  The average HC contract is 6.6 mil with an average 3-5 term.  

 

This is why coordinators take bad HC situations.  

 

Not saying Brady will, as others have said, with Allen his value is likely to remain strong.

[Don Otreply]

23 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Can't see Pegula moving on from McDermott

I said warmer not hot, and you may very well be right, but never say never, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[BuffaloBillyG]

24 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The exact place he is the worst fit for him.

 

If BB or the org are serious about winning, you don’t hire him to a team that needs a full reset everywhere including QB.

 

I think BB on the Bears is a better fit and I think that’s not even that good of a fit. 

You're not wrong. I think the only worse fit for BB...is College ball. 

 

But the Raiders have a great pass rusher in Crosby and a very promising young TE in Bowers to start the build and chip away for a year or two on Shula's all time win record.