Sammy Watkins/Mike Evans Saga

[SoCal Deek]

14 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

That analogy doesn't work because Evans was drafted before the Bills’ original pick. The whole premise of this thread is based on an incorrect memory of the original draft order.

So you’re saying it was the nazis who attacked Pearl Harbor? 😉

[The Jokeman]

51 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Could we have taken Von instead? The exact order of picks slipped my old mind, but I think he was in play at our pick🤔

No Von went 2nd overall we took Dareus 3rd overall. 

 

 

If we want to play What IF I always wonder what if the Bills selected Rob Johnson in 1995 in Round 2 (he was drafted in the 4th by Jacksonville) instead of Todd Collins. 

Edited yesterday at 01:40 PM by The Jokeman

[mannc]

25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If we stayed at #9 I wanted Taylor Lewan to give us book end tackles. I liked Donald a lot but I confess I was in the camp of "do you want to take a DT when you have Dareus and Williams?" The answer should, obviously, have been yes. I wanted no piece of Ebron, Barr or OBJ.

The bottom line is, we were rolling with EJ Manuel at QB so it really wouldn’t have mattered in the short run…I’m getting PTSD just thinking about it…

[FireChans]

30 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If we stayed at #9 I wanted Taylor Lewan to give us book end tackles. I liked Donald a lot but I confess I was in the camp of "do you want to take a DT when you have Dareus and Williams?" The answer should, obviously, have been yes. I wanted no piece of Ebron, Barr or OBJ.

It’s kind of funny that of the first 17 picks, the only ones not to make a Pro Bowl were drafted by the Rams, Jags, Bills and Browns.

[chongli]

For years people here said we should have drafted OBJ instead of Sammy. Now it's Evans. Whatever. It is what it is.

 

 

[Sweats]

1 hour ago, thronethinker said:

well lets play redo the past logic...

 

Had the Bills drafted Mike Evans they never would have drafter Josh Allen as they would have been just good enough to pass on him and stick with what they had.

 

 

 

...........and who was our QB at the time that was "just good enough to pass on him and stick with what they had"?

 

I'll wait.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Still blows my mind that Sammy's best season in the NFL was remains the one where he played in Rex Ryan's offense with Tyrod Taylor throwing to him. Despite later playing in the McVay offense and Reid/Mahomes offense. Truly a 1st round bust. 

[Kaenon]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

Could we have taken Von instead? The exact order of picks slipped my old mind, but I think he was in play at our pick🤔

No, Von went #2 to Denver after Cam and we picked 3rd.

 

I've watched some Von videos prior to him signing with Buffalo and he talked about thinking he was going to be a Bill leading up to the draft until he got the call from Denver.

😢 

[Saint Doug]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

 

I don’t mean to be rude, but didn’t the Bucs have a better draft pick than us in 2017 and 2018?

It’s not just draft position, there’s too many moving parts. If Evans was drafted, maybe Whaley would’ve stuck around a couple years longer. Maybe we would’ve thought we didn’t need a QB. Maybe Whaley would’ve drafted a new QB before 2018. Maybe Beane would’ve been hired by someone else. Hell, maybe we wouldn’t have even traded our 2017 1st and picked a QB there….

[Rigotz]

Unbelievable. 

 

We could have had TOM BRADY in the 6th round of the 2000 draft instead of Sammy Morris.

 

CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?

 

CAN YOU???

[thenorthremembers]

Confucious say one who look ever backwards is bound to run into things.

[JP51]

1 hour ago, Cheesus said:

Torell Troup/Gronkowski Saga

I think there are always hits and misses, no GM is immune to that... your example is a stark one though almost like the Sabres picking Ric Seiling 1 spot ahead of Mike Bossy lol....  To me...  I think if you look back at Levy, Nix, Brandon, Whaley years their failure was defined by their abject neglect at getting a QB of the future for like 20 years... no one put forth the primary focus to get that done we were happy to pick Dante Whitner 8 over all or trade up for John McCargo....

 

Despite being a flop and a massive reach if will give Whaley credit for at least drafting Manuel... but in the end way too little focus on getting a legitimate replacement for Kelly... and that is weird to say cause it was a long time. I guess I will never understand why these folks never got that... then you have teams like the Packers who seemlessly go from Favre to Rodgers to Love... and remarkably stay relevant for years... So, I never liked the Watkins trade... I think Whaley was trying to save a bad QB with a WR that was theoretically great as well as his job... problem is Watkins was a little Ricky Williams in so much as he didnt really care much and a little Milano always being hurt. 

 

I guess in the end it worked out for us with Allen... but man it was a loooooong drought... 

Edited yesterday at 02:59 PM by JP51

[US Egg]

Why is it that only the Bills miss on draft picks?

[Mr. WEO]

Flutie should have started that Titans game.

[Augie]

I’ve never gotten over Walt Patulski, personally. 

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

Yes, this is hindsight and discussed ad nauseum, but here we are, 11 seasons later and that decision continues to linger.

 

They traded up to draft Watkins when they could’ve stayed where they were and taken Evans.  Sammy has been out of the league for 2 seasons now while Evans continues to put up 1,000 yard seasons with double digit touchdowns.

 

What could’ve been!

Sir, this is a Wendy’s…

[NewEra]

This is a “saga” 10 years later?  🤷🏻‍♂️ 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

[US Egg]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

This is a “saga” 10 years later?  🤷🏻‍♂️ 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

Sure ain’t no Pecos Bill.

[Matt_In_NH]

Picking Watkins over Evans was not a bad decision at the time.    Trading up probably was.  If we want to live in 20/20 draft hindsight lets just put all the all pros on the Bills.

[4th&long]

3 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

Yes, this is hindsight and discussed ad nauseum, but here we are, 11 seasons later and that decision continues to linger.

 

They traded up to draft Watkins when they could’ve stayed where they were and taken Evans.  Sammy has been out of the league for 2 seasons now while Evans continues to put up 1,000 yard seasons with double digit touchdowns.

 

What could’ve been!

Really? No team has ever drafted a bust before. Also it's a huge part of why Doug w is looking gone. I'm more worried about elam, why was he drafted, who recommended him? Hopefully that scout is gone!