Playoffs are Here! Be Courteous to and Cautious of DEBBIE Downers

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, julian said:

I deal with it daily in rl, my buddy was a much more tolerable and fun Bills fan during the draught. The high expectations of this team has ruined some fans ability to enjoy the team in the moment.

 

 Kind of sad to be honest.

 

exactly, with a once in a lifetime player like Josh, real fans should just not have any significant expectations at all.

[US Egg]

So we talking locking up sharp knives and things here?

[BADOLBILZ]

18 minutes ago, theRalph said:

Nah...just reacting to Andrew on Herd Mentality. Joe got pretty fired up.

 

Well, this isn't the comment section for that site is it?

 

I am in favor of more people posting their opinions but today you started this AND a thread to tell us that Tyler Bass intentionally missed an extra point Sunday.

 

That kind of pointless rabble-rousing nonsense encourages more moderation.    Literally nothing productive comes from those threads.

 

We get it, you are hyped up but maybe understand that you aren't in your right mind when you are that way.

[Breakout Squad]

26 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Recurring 

Anal

Lesions

Probably

Hurt

 

 

Probably?!?! Haha

[mjt328]

11 minutes ago, Steptide said:

My playoff anxiety doesn't stem from 17 years of drought, or 4 lost super bowls. It stems from the last 4 years of heart break. The Cinci playoff loss at home is probably the only one where I wasn't angry for weeks after, and I believe that's only cuz we got murdered in that game 

 

The closer you get to the Lombardi, the more it hurts when your team's season ends.

No matter how much the drought sucked, it will never compare to the pain of something like Wide Right.  

 

Many of us have PTSD, because we still remember when the 1990s teams were just emerging.  Loaded with talent and future Hall of Fame players.  Dominating year after year in the AFC.  Always coming up just a little bit short at the end.  It was inevitable they were going to win a Super Bowl at some point.  Then one January in Orchard Park, the Jaguars pulled off the upset.  And suddenly it was over.

 

I want to believe that Josh Allen winning the Super Bowl is inevitable.  But the truth is, it's gone in a blink.  Every year that passes without winning it all, it's one more season we've wasted of a Hall of Fame quarterback's career.

 

[US Egg]

1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson said:

One and done.

Like on your Honeymoon night?

[Steptide]

It's funny, I've been saying/thinking most of the season how I'd be shocked if THIS was the bills team that got us to the superbowl, and I still very much feel that way. Yet, here I am playing out scenarios in my head on how the bills can get there. I'm trying to not set myself up for dissapointment, just try and enjoy the ride, however long it is 

[JohnNord]

You can be negative or positive but either way it won’t change the fact it’s the playoffs and the Bills season could be done.  It’s going to be disappointing either way so IMO It’s better to look at things positively.     
 

 

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, theRalph said:

We are blessed with the Bills and the run of the McBeane administration. And yet, with the arrival of the playoffs, a particular class of Bills fan has been stirred into action...but not due to excitement. They are the naysayers who find fault, often irrationally so, with the team. It's actually a defense mechanism that, in a way, prepares such naysayers to emotionally handle the eventual playoff loss they're certain of.

 

I feel for these folks...we all love our Bills. The fanbase even has a name: "Bills Mafia".  But the naysayers predate Bills Mafia and need their own special classification:

 

DEBBIE Downers. Many are familiar with this this term, but few know that is an acronym: Drought Encrusted Buffalo Bills Idiocy Enthusiasts

 

These are Bills fans....so be courteous to them. Just don't get too close and get infected with their negativity. #GoBills

Sir, this is a Wendy’s…, 

[folz]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

exactly, with a once in a lifetime player like Josh, real fans should just not have any significant expectations at all.

 

There is a difference between "expectations" and "aspirations."

 

We aspire to win a Super Bowl. It is our goal. We work together to put everything towards that goal. But, we also understand that there are a lot of variables and unforeseen circumstances that may keep us from that ultimate goal. If it doesn't happen, we reassess, reload, and try again with our full effort. We don't see it as failure, but growth...and we learn to appreciate all of the good and fun moments along the way. The big plays, the big games, the individual and team records being set, the overcoming adversity, the personal stories, the love of competition, the camaraderie, etc.

 

We expect to win a Super Bowl. So, if we don't, then everything has been a failure. The players aren't good enough, the coaches aren't good enough. There is nothing to look back fondly on because it all came to nothing, it didn't go as we wanted or expected it to go, so the rest of it is meaningless. [That may be a bit of an over exaggeration, but that is the mentality that expectations create. If expectations are not met, then there is nothing but failure and disappointment. btw, the Universe very rarely brings us what we expect, so sometimes it's best to not expect anything and just enjoy the ride.]

 

Plus, most of the negative posters "expected" an 8-10 win rebuild season, no AFC East title, possibly no playoffs for some. The team goes 13-4, gets its 5th AFC East title in a row, and snags the #2 seed in the playoffs.  So, their expectations for this year have already been surpassed actually. But does anyone get any credit for that other than Josh? No, now expectations have been revamped to if they don't win the Super Bowl...

 

 

[MJS]

2 hours ago, Breakout Squad said:

What about Negative Nancy’s? 

They are similar, but not quite as bad.

[Ya Digg?]

8 minutes ago, folz said:

 

There is a difference between "expectations" and "aspirations."

 

We aspire to win a Super Bowl. It is our goal. We work together to put everything towards that goal. But, we also understand that there are a lot of variables and unforeseen circumstances that may keep us from that ultimate goal. If it doesn't happen, we reassess, reload, and try again with our full effort. We don't see it as failure, but growth...and we learn to appreciate all of the good and fun moments along the way. The big plays, the big games, the individual and team records being set, the overcoming adversity, the personal stories, the love of competition, the camaraderie, etc.

 

We expect to win a Super Bowl. So, if we don't, then everything has been a failure. The players aren't good enough, the coaches aren't good enough. There is nothing to look back fondly on because it all came to nothing, it didn't go as we wanted or expected it to go, so the rest of it is meaningless. [That may be a bit of an over exaggeration, but that is the mentality that expectations create. If expectations are not met, then there is nothing but failure and disappointment. btw, the Universe very rarely brings us what we expect, so sometimes it's best to not expect anything and just enjoy the ride.]

 

Plus, most of the negative posters "expected" an 8-10 win rebuild season, no AFC East title, possibly no playoffs for some. The team goes 13-4, gets its 5th AFC East title in a row, and snags the #2 seed in the playoffs.  So, their expectations for this year have already been surpassed actually. But does anyone get any credit for that other than Josh? No, now expectations have been revamped to if they don't win the Super Bowl...

 

 

I’ve said it many times on here before-the negative posters look at these situations as a win win. If the Bills win, nobody cares what they said, they don’t get held accountable and they get to celebrate with everyone else.

 

If the Bills lose, there are some in here who get to say “I told you so” and to them that is more important than the team actually having success 

[MJS]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

exactly, with a once in a lifetime player like Josh, real fans should just not have any significant expectations at all.

It's true. You should not expect anything.

[msw2112]

1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

 

The closer you get to the Lombardi, the more it hurts when your team's season ends.

No matter how much the drought sucked, it will never compare to the pain of something like Wide Right.  

 

Many of us have PTSD, because we still remember when the 1990s teams were just emerging.  Loaded with talent and future Hall of Fame players.  Dominating year after year in the AFC.  Always coming up just a little bit short at the end.  It was inevitable they were going to win a Super Bowl at some point.  Then one January in Orchard Park, the Jaguars pulled off the upset.  And suddenly it was over.

 

I want to believe that Josh Allen winning the Super Bowl is inevitable.  But the truth is, it's gone in a blink.  Every year that passes without winning it all, it's one more season we've wasted of a Hall of Fame quarterback's career.

 

 

I think the original point is that if the Bills go 13-4, sweep the division, beat KC and Detroit, but don't win the Super Bowl (maybe winning 1 - 3 playoff games, but not going all the way), is the season wasted?  Or was it a great season with a disappointing finish?  I agree that any season with a team that's a legitimate contender that does not end in a Super Bowl victory is disappointing, but I don't think it's wasted.  I have enjoyed a lot of great Bills football over the last 18 weeks and expect to enjoy it for a few more weeks.  If the only satisfaction is the Bills winning the Super Bowl, why even watch a single game in the regular season?  Or the playoff rounds prior to the Super Bowl?

 

So yes, I'll be heartbroken and disappointed if the Bills don't win the Super Bowl, but I won't consider it a wasted season.  I live outside of Buffalo and everyone I know knows that I'm a Bills fan (and if I'm wearing Bills gear, people I don't know also know I'm a Bills fan).  I get compliments all the time about what a great team and fanbase we have.  I enjoyed watching the Bills win 13 out of 17 games and have slept well on a lot of Sunday and Monday nights this fall.  I've watched games with friends and family who also love the Bills.  Those things will have taken place whether the Bills go all the way or not.

Edited Tuesday at 10:33 PM by msw2112

[SoCal Deek]

Been playing with house money all year long. I had very little expectations going into this season. It’s been a fun watch and I truly hope it continues. It’d be just so Buffalo to win it all when very few saw it coming. 

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

 

The closer you get to the Lombardi, the more it hurts when your team's season ends.

No matter how much the drought sucked, it will never compare to the pain of something like Wide Right.  

 

Many of us have PTSD, because we still remember when the 1990s teams were just emerging.  Loaded with talent and future Hall of Fame players.  Dominating year after year in the AFC.  Always coming up just a little bit short at the end.  It was inevitable they were going to win a Super Bowl at some point.  Then one January in Orchard Park, the Jaguars pulled off the upset.  And suddenly it was over.

 

I want to believe that Josh Allen winning the Super Bowl is inevitable.  But the truth is, it's gone in a blink.  Every year that passes without winning it all, it's one more season we've wasted of a Hall of Fame quarterback's career.

 

We should be pretty pain free then. 

[Mikie2times]

26 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

I’ve said it many times on here before-the negative posters look at these situations as a win win. If the Bills win, nobody cares what they said, they don’t get held accountable and they get to celebrate with everyone else.

 

If the Bills lose, there are some in here who get to say “I told you so” and to them that is more important than the team actually having success 

I'm one of the biggest "fire" McD posters on here and I will not be saying "I told you so" or any other variation of gloating if we lose. I will be angry and sad as I have been every other time our season ended. If ultimately what I expect to happen doesn't it will be an awesome surprise and I will be more than happy to say I was wrong about McD. To think my 35 years of Bills fandom is bypassed by my anger towards McD is rather hilarious. I know it's much easier to look at these views as being so blinded by irrational hate they can't even be fans but like the term "negative nancies" it's just not accurate. I bet some of McD's biggest haters would be some of his loudest supporters if they get proven wrong, 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:

I'm one of the biggest "fire" McD posters on here and I will not be saying "I told you so" or any other variation of gloating if we lose. I will be angry and sad as I have been every other time our season ended. If ultimately what I expect to happen doesn't it will be an awesome surprise and I will be more than happy to say I was wrong about McD. To think my 35 years of Bills fandom is bypassed by my anger towards McD is rather hilarious. I know it's much easier to look at these views as being so blinded by irrational hate they can't even be fans but like the term "negative nancies" it's just not accurate. I bet some of McD's biggest haters would be some of his loudest supporters if they get proven wrong, 

35 years? Youngster! 

[KCNC]

2 hours ago, Steptide said:

My playoff anxiety doesn't stem from 17 years of drought, or 4 lost super bowls. It stems from the last 4 years of heart break. The Cinci playoff loss at home is probably the only one where I wasn't angry for weeks after, and I believe that's only cuz we got murdered in that game 

 

Same here.  I think team will be juiced this weekend but I am already nervous and will need some adult beverages early to calm me down.

[julian]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

exactly, with a once in a lifetime player like Josh, real fans should just not have any significant expectations at all.

Or you could expect to make the playoffs every year, because that’s what all time great QBs do, and be hopeful that Lady Luck smiles upon the team, that McDermott doesn’t piss down his leg, that the teams remains healthy and maybe we can all enjoy a title.

Or like my buddy, piss and moan and complain about anything and everything and insist the team will never win… that way when they get bounced from the playoffs you can say I told you so and feel no pain of defeat.

 

Edited Tuesday at 11:11 PM by julian