Bills' Real Motives at Gillette

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, theRalph said:

Bass was likely instructed to miss the point after to avoid a tie. Nonsense, you say?

 

Yeah, I do say "nonsense".

 

Bass has not been "Bass O Matic" this season and has missed 5 out of 64 extra points.  

Edited Tuesday at 09:37 PM by Beck Water

[Logic]

There's no way Sean McDermott or Matthew Smiley instructed Tyler Bass -- a kicker who has struggled with consistency and confidence all season -- to intentionally miss a kick in the game before the NFL playoffs.

No way.

0% chance.

[Warcodered]

3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

You will have a VERY hard time convincing me they asked anyone to miss anything, be it a kick, a pass,  a tackle or a catch. Fourth and goal in your own end? Go for it! Why not? THAT is how you find a way to lose. You don’t ask any player to intentionally fail. 

Yeah I'd already tuned out of the game, but I find it hard to believe they'd want Bass to purposely miss anything going into the Playoffs the way his season has been all hot and cold.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Yeah I'd already tuned out of the game, but I find it hard to believe they'd want Bass to purposely miss anything going into the Playoffs the way his season has been all hot and cold.

 

Yeah, and then there’s that whole Chicago White Sox thing from 1919, as well.  😊

 

I pray for a strong and stable Bass thru the playoffs. 

[djp14150]

3 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

Totally agree.  I think their fans had their hearts set on getting the 1st pick and trading back for a ton of assets.  They didn't fall back that far.  They should stop whining.  I think he was fired because he gave a few sketchy interviews and made himself look weak/indecisive.  F them.  I hope they turn into a Jets-like circus.

This year is a poor QB class

 

remrmber bills traded #9 fir #4 and next years 1st and 4th to draft Sammy Watkins 

[Aussie Joe]

9 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

This year is a poor QB class

 

remrmber bills traded #9 fir #4 and next years 1st and 4th to draft Sammy Watkins 

So imagine what they could have got for pick 1 ?

[first_and_ten]

4 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

The problem is nobody can truly predict how any draft will go as so many variables and tangents. I mean it safe to assume even if the Pats had pick 1 would they necessarily trade down for a team looking to nab Sanders or Cam Ward ahead of the Titans/Browns/Giants and get a boat load of picks back? Or do they keep the pick and take Travis Hunter? Heck Hunter could fall to them at #4 depending what teams ahead of them do as could be debatable who goes at #3 if the Giants stay and the top 2 QBs go 1st and 2nd. It wouldn't put it past me the Bills didn't try to win yet would think Mayo would had found ways to ensure a loss if he cared about draft position. Hard to say if he was fired because he won or because he had a horrible season?

 

The fact he was fired 60 minutes after the game may suggest Kraft was upset about losing the first overall pick. It's also possible that his firing was predetermined before this game, especially with Vrabel being a hot commodity. 

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

Yeah, I do say "nonsense".

 

Bass has not been "Bass O Matic" this season and has missed 5 out of 64 extra points.  

 

It’s like intentional grounding sometimes. “No, we didn’t do that on purpose, we just suck! That is NOT a penalty!” 

 

EDIT: Kidding, not bashing on Bass. No bad karma from me! 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 11:21 PM by Augie

[Matt_In_NH]

5 hours ago, theRalph said:

Bass was likely instructed to miss the point after to avoid a tie. Nonsense, you say? If they didn't want a tie, then why not just go for the two point conversion? Simple: To avoid an unnecessary goal line situation. Bass hit from 49 in the wind. He's fine.

 

The Bills had, and accomplished, three goals at Gillette:

1. Rest key starters

2. Give reps to depth players and starters returning from injury

3. Prevent New England from selecting the first pick of the 2025 NFL draft.

 

When the Bills ran a failed play on 4th and 10 from well inside minus territory, it was clear they intended to keep the Patriots from the number one selection in the upcoming draft.

Why would they instruct the kicker to miss when they could instruct the offense to just take knees or throw ints?   And knowing the public’s perception of a bass miss they would tell him to purposely miss.  Nothing could be more wrong.   Go back to sleep and report the next dream. 

[HOUSE]

Tyler Bass has special instructions to miss every week

[Neo]

5 hours ago, theRalph said:

Bass was likely instructed to miss the point after to avoid a tie. Nonsense, you say? If they didn't want a tie, then why not just go for the two point conversion? Simple: To avoid an unnecessary goal line situation. Bass hit from 49 in the wind. He's fine.

 

The Bills had, and accomplished, three goals at Gillette:

1. Rest key starters

2. Give reps to depth players and starters returning from injury

3. Prevent New England from selecting the first pick of the 2025 NFL draft.

 

When the Bills ran a failed play on 4th and 10 from well inside minus territory, it was clear they intended to keep the Patriots from the number one selection in the upcoming draft.

 

I’ll say nonsense.   Aside:  What a beautiful word “non-sense” is.

[UKBillFan]

Sorry if this has been posted but I’ve just been reminded of something - week one screwed over both the Pats and the Bengals. If the result was reversed, the Pats would have the one seed and the Bengals would be in the play offs.

[oldmanfan]

I think they had two main goals this past Sunday:  no injuries and getting guys bonuses/records.

[SirAndrew]

Bass can’t make an extra point on purpose, how could he miss one on purpose? 

[Captain Hindsight]

6 hours ago, yall said:

While the outcomes of any draft are obviously not guaranteed, there is a certain value associated with each pick.

 

I can't say the OP is accurate in that Bass intentionally missed, but I would say that generally speaking, it's of more value for an organization to have the #1 overall versus #4.

 

Knowing that, depriving a division opponent of the #1 at zero cost to your own organization only makes sense.

 

 

The Bears turned the number one overall pick into another #1 overall pick. If they get the coaching hire right this time, that will be an all time great trade

 

NE* dropping to 4 in a weak QB class hurts them tremendously

[Thurman#1]

I do indeed say nonsense.

 

Asking him to miss? Absolutely no way. Doing so would have lowered his value on the open market, which is very possibly where he'll end up. 

 

Are they happy he missed? Hmm, yeah and no, I think. This is a group that's got wanting to win in their DNA. But yeah, they know that losing that pick hurt their division rivals.

[Captain Hindsight]

47 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

Sorry if this has been posted but I’ve just been reminded of something - week one screwed over both the Pats and the Bengals. If the result was reversed, the Pats would have the one seed and the Bengals would be in the play offs.

[L Ron Burgundy]

5 hours ago, djp14150 said:

This year is a poor QB class

 

remrmber bills traded #9 fir #4 and next years 1st and 4th to draft Sammy Watkins 

Yeah they should be happy they don't need a qb then.  They can still trade back for assets.

[Bills!Win!]

6 hours ago, Logic said:

There's no way Sean McDermott or Matthew Smiley instructed Tyler Bass -- a kicker who has struggled with consistency and confidence all season -- to intentionally miss a kick in the game before the NFL playoffs.

No way.

0% chance.

maybe he is secretly the best kicker in the league and McD told him to miss all the kicks he missed this year so the offense wouldn’t take their foot off the gas 😂

Edited yesterday at 04:25 AM by Bills!Win!

[HardyBoy]

7 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Face it, the Pats still need a ton of position upgrades, and likely a real QB, Maye isn’t all that and a bag of chips, they fuh ked up by not capitalizing on a great opportunity when it was knocking on their door, all this silly rationalizing otherwise is just a waste of brain activity and time spent typing those thoughts out onto the web. They done screwed the pooch no matter how anyone try’s to spin it.

 

GO BILLS!!!

 

I think there is a real and legit chance that Milton is better than Maye and I thought that after watching Milton in the preseason...like yeah them losing the first overall pick is a massive loss in value... but Milton just raised his trade value significantly with that performance and it might honestly potentially even out (though I'm guessing Milton already had a significantly high trade value following his preseason performances)