Don Otreply Posted January 8 Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, HardyBoy said: I think there is a real and legit chance that Milton is better than Maye and I thought that after watching Milton in the preseason...like yeah them losing the first overall pick is a massive loss in value... but Milton just raised his trade value significantly with that performance and it might honestly potentially even out (though I'm guessing Milton already had a significantly high trade value following his preseason performances) One needs to consider that Milton played against 2nd & 3rd string guys that everyone hopes they never see the field in a game that counts, He may be better than Maye, but Maye isn’t particularly good, Quote
HardyBoy Posted January 8 Posted January 8 36 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: One needs to consider that Milton played against 2nd & 3rd string guys that everyone hopes they never see the field in a game that counts, He may be better than Maye, but Maye isn’t particularly good, Totally get that, but his poise and ability to move in the pocket to buy time...he's gonna be really really good I think and they drafted him in the freaking 6th round...hopefully they trade him the the giants for their second this year...I wouldn't be super shocked if a new coach comes in though and names Milton the starter...I don't think he's just better than Maye, I think Milton could be elite (hopefully someone who actually knows football can weigh in on this, but like I said, I based this off watching Milton in the preseason and the bills game)...also, the bills weren't playing the 75th player on the preseason roster...he played against mostly legit nfl role players...granted the bills defense isn't the best version, but these are players that have been rostered on nfl rosters all season largely. Quote
Dr.Sack Posted January 8 Posted January 8 The way the Bills made Joe Milton look the Patriots would be foolish not to try and trade him for some draft capital. What the chances a team would pay a 2nd or 3rd? Quote
HardyBoy Posted January 8 Posted January 8 55 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: The way the Bills made Joe Milton look the Patriots would be foolish not to try and trade him for some draft capital. What the chances a team would pay a 2nd or 3rd? Joe Milton had looked that good all preseason and not just in preseason games, reports out of training camp were that he was absolutely crushing it all camp Quote
Herc11 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 (edited) 11 hours ago, theRalph said: Bass was likely instructed to miss the point after to avoid a tie. Nonsense, you say? If they didn't want a tie, then why not just go for the two point conversion? Simple: To avoid an unnecessary goal line situation. Bass hit from 49 in the wind. He's fine. The Bills had, and accomplished, three goals at Gillette: 1. Rest key starters 2. Give reps to depth players and starters returning from injury 3. Prevent New England from selecting the first pick of the 2025 NFL draft. When the Bills ran a failed play on 4th and 10 from well inside minus territory, it was clear they intended to keep the Patriots from the number one selection in the upcoming draft. Who cares? Why are you digesting a meaningless game when we have our first playoff game this weekend? Edited January 8 by Herc11 Quote
HardyBoy Posted January 8 Posted January 8 I live in raleigh, we get the panthers preseason games. Obviously it's against players not in the nfl, totally get that... the accuracy and the ball placement on those short throws is insane for a player with Josh Allen's physical toolkit (not sure on his arm strength compared to Allen). Plus how he seemingly has a plan when things go off script and he's moving to set stuff up and not just bailing... 1 Quote
Ayjent Posted January 8 Posted January 8 However they came about it and what was intended and what was not, the Bills were not playing the game to win. However, it is hard not to be impressed by Milton. I thought the Bills picking him this year was the best backup plan they could have to continue running the offense as if Josh was playing. It’s clear that White and Trubisky are odd fits for the offense that loses a lot of ability to draw attention away from receivers due to the running threat at QB. He isn’t Josh Allen, don’t get me wrong, and teams having schemes and tape to stop them can change the complexion of how a player is viewed. However, the ability to run similar offense and put similar pressure on a Defense is something I’ve never quite understood with who the Bills get to be backup QBs. I understand it’s all about supporting Josh in the QB room, but the backup QBs on the team aren’t good contingencies if they have to step on the field in the clutch. Quote
JP51 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 21 hours ago, theRalph said: Bass was likely instructed to miss the point after to avoid a tie. Nonsense, you say? If they didn't want a tie, then why not just go for the two point conversion? Simple: To avoid an unnecessary goal line situation. Bass hit from 49 in the wind. He's fine. The Bills had, and accomplished, three goals at Gillette: 1. Rest key starters 2. Give reps to depth players and starters returning from injury 3. Prevent New England from selecting the first pick of the 2025 NFL draft. When the Bills ran a failed play on 4th and 10 from well inside minus territory, it was clear they intended to keep the Patriots from the number one selection in the upcoming draft. I fear if they instructed him to miss it then it would have split the uprights... just sayin LOL Quote
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 8 Posted January 8 21 hours ago, theRalph said: The Bills had, and accomplished, three goals at Gillette: 1. Rest key starters 2. Give reps to depth players and starters returning from injury 3. Prevent New England from selecting the first pick of the 2025 NFL draft. 4. Get players to as many incentives/milestones as they could: - Von Miller sack total - Sam Martin downed inside the 20 total - James Cook 1000 yards 1 Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted January 11 Posted January 11 On 1/7/2025 at 11:07 AM, The Jokeman said: The problem is nobody can truly predict how any draft will go as so many variables and tangents. I mean it safe to assume even if the Pats had pick 1 would they necessarily trade down for a team looking to nab Sanders or Cam Ward ahead of the Titans/Browns/Giants and get a boat load of picks back? Or do they keep the pick and take Travis Hunter? Heck Hunter could fall to them at #4 depending what teams ahead of them do as could be debatable who goes at #3 if the Giants stay and the top 2 QBs go 1st and 2nd. It wouldn't put it past me the Bills didn't try to win yet would think Mayo would had found ways to ensure a loss if he cared about draft position. Hard to say if he was fired because he won or because he had a horrible season? Exaclty. That’s why you do what you’re willing to do to fingerprint what’s happening. As you say, and I agree with you: can’t predict. So who cares, right? At least you did something. The 1.01 pick is better than any other pick in the draft. The Bills can take that away from their rival. So do it. Why not? Now I don’t agree with the OP’s crazy conclusion, but I LOVE IT! Leave it at that 🤣 Quote
H2o Posted January 11 Posted January 11 If anything, it wasn't to prevent them from picking first, it was to prevent them from parlaying that #1 pick into a bunch of picks. 1 Quote
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