Bills' Real Motives at Gillette

[theRalph]

Bass was likely instructed to miss the point after to avoid a tie. Nonsense, you say? If they didn't want a tie, then why not just go for the two point conversion? Simple: To avoid an unnecessary goal line situation. Bass hit from 49 in the wind. He's fine.

 

The Bills had, and accomplished, three goals at Gillette:

1. Rest key starters

2. Give reps to depth players and starters returning from injury

3. Prevent New England from selecting the first pick of the 2025 NFL draft.

 

When the Bills ran a failed play on 4th and 10 from well inside minus territory, it was clear they intended to keep the Patriots from the number one selection in the upcoming draft.

[The Jokeman]

The problem is nobody can truly predict how any draft will go as so many variables and tangents. I mean it safe to assume even if the Pats had pick 1 would they necessarily trade down for a team looking to nab Sanders or Cam Ward ahead of the Titans/Browns/Giants and get a boat load of picks back? Or do they keep the pick and take Travis Hunter? Heck Hunter could fall to them at #4 depending what teams ahead of them do as could be debatable who goes at #3 if the Giants stay and the top 2 QBs go 1st and 2nd. It wouldn't put it past me the Bills didn't try to win yet would think Mayo would had found ways to ensure a loss if he cared about draft position. Hard to say if he was fired because he won or because he had a horrible season?

Edited 21 hours ago by The Jokeman

[L Ron Burgundy]

4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

The problem is nobody can truly predict how any draft will go as so many variables and tangents. I mean it safe to assume even if the Pats had pick 1 would they necessarily trade down for a team looking to nab Sanders or Cam Ward ahead of the Titans/Browns/Giants and get a boat load of picks back? Or do they keep the pick and take Travis Hunter? Heck Hunter could fall to them at #3 depending what teams ahead of them do as could be debatable who goes at #3 if the Giants stay and the top 2 QBs go 1st and 2nd. It wouldn't put it past me the Bills didn't try to win yet would think Mayo would had found ways to ensure a loss if he cared about draft position. Hard to say if he was fired because he won or because he had a horrible season?

 

Totally agree.  I think their fans had their hearts set on getting the 1st pick and trading back for a ton of assets.  They didn't fall back that far.  They should stop whining.  I think he was fired because he gave a few sketchy interviews and made himself look weak/indecisive.  F them.  I hope they turn into a Jets-like circus.

[yall]

8 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

The problem is nobody can truly predict how any draft will go as so many variables and tangents. I mean it safe to assume even if the Pats had pick 1 would they necessarily trade down for a team looking to nab Sanders or Cam Ward ahead of the Titans/Browns/Giants and get a boat load of picks back? Or do they keep the pick and take Travis Hunter? Heck Hunter could fall to them at #3 depending what teams ahead of them do as could be debatable who goes at #3 if the Giants stay and the top 2 QBs go 1st and 2nd. It wouldn't put it past me the Bills didn't try to win yet would think Mayo would had found ways to ensure a loss if he cared about draft position. Hard to say if he was fired because he won or because he had a horrible season?

While the outcomes of any draft are obviously not guaranteed, there is a certain value associated with each pick.

 

I can't say the OP is accurate in that Bass intentionally missed, but I would say that generally speaking, it's of more value for an organization to have the #1 overall versus #4.

 

Knowing that, depriving a division opponent of the #1 at zero cost to your own organization only makes sense.

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by yall

[Billsatlastin2018]

1 minute ago, yall said:

While he outcomes of a draft are obviously not guaranteed, there is a certain value associated with each pick.

 

I can't say the OP is accurate in that Bass intentionally missed, but I would say that generally speaking, it's of more value for an organization to have the #1 overall versus #4.

 

Knowing that, depriving a division opponent of the #1 at zero cost to your own organization only makes sense.

 

 

In this precise scenario:

 

1) Only an org that has turned into a clown one, would FUBAR the certainty of a #1 Pick.
THE CHEATS WANTED THAT PICK TO TRADE DOWN TO GET MORE EXCELLENT PICKS TO ASSIST THEIR TALENTED YOUNG QB! 

100%! They screwed it up.

 

2) The Buffalo 🦬 talented org must at the same time ensure it screws a Divisional opponent!

NO question.

[Aussie Joe]

Just listened to this… 30 minutes of crying from a very entitled Pats fan …these gronks have had levels of success we can only dream about, but a couple of bad years and their entire world has ended …

 

This could be the best loss in Bills history …

 

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/locked-on-patriots-daily-podcast-on-the-new-england/id1140512627?i=1000682784974

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Aussie Joe

[Augie]

6 hours ago, theRalph said:

Bass was likely instructed to miss the point after to avoid a tie. Nonsense, you say? If they didn't want a tie, then why not just go for the two point conversion? Simple: To avoid an unnecessary goal line situation. Bass hit from 49 in the wind. He's fine.

 

The Bills had, and accomplished, three goals at Gillette:

1. Rest key starters

2. Give reps to depth players and starters returning from injury

3. Prevent New England from selecting the first pick of the 2025 NFL draft.

 

When the Bills ran a failed play on 4th and 10 from well inside minus territory, it was clear they intended to keep the Patriots from the number one selection in the upcoming draft.

 

You will have a VERY hard time convincing me they asked anyone to miss anything, be it a kick, a pass,  a tackle or a catch. Fourth down in your own end? Go for it! Why not? THAT is how you find a way to lose. You don’t ask any player to intentionally fail. 

Edited 16 hours ago by Augie

[scuba guy]

Except the bass extra point miss was a really bad snap.

 

Through his timing off.

 

 

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

I don’t believe an NFL kicker would intentionally miss.  Their next job/contract relies on minute differences in percentage between them and their peers.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

I didn't see the snap so I will take people's word for it. 

To me Bass' struggles are all mental. It's obvious he has a strong leg. He seems to lose focus and comes through the ball late and thus the fade off to the right. 

Am i worried?  A little to be honest. Though not near as much about Bass as I am about our Dline getting manhandled against the run. 

1 minute ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

I don’t believe an NFL kicker would intentionally miss.  Their next job/contract relies on minute differences in percentage between them and their peers.

Agree. Same reason why the New England kicker wouldn't miss those field goals. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

36 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

The problem is nobody can truly predict how any draft will go as so many variables and tangents.

HELL, YES!!!  Testify!

Josh Rosen will tell you that! 😁

 

[machine gun kelly]

27 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Just listened to this… 30 minutes of crying from a very entitled Pats fan …these gronks have had levels of success we can only dream about, but a couple of bad years and their entire world has ended …

 

This could be the best loss in Bills history …

 

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/locked-on-patriots-daily-podcast-on-the-new-england/id1140512627?i=1000682784974

 

Personally, I consider Sunday a win.  Rest everyone, stay healthy and screw the Cheats out if #1.  The heck with those guys.  I’ll forever hate the Cheats and Fish.

[The Jokeman]

38 minutes ago, yall said:

While the outcomes of any draft are obviously not guaranteed, there is a certain value associated with each pick.

 

I can't say the OP is accurate in that Bass intentionally missed, but I would say that generally speaking, it's of more value for an organization to have the #1 overall versus #4.

 

Knowing that, depriving a division opponent of the #1 at zero cost to your own organization only makes sense.

 

 

Oh I agree, I mentioned in a pregame thread that asked if we would intentionally lose to make New England lose the top pick myself. So it's possible but you'd never get a team or coach to admit to it.

[BillsfaninSB]

51 minutes ago, scuba guy said:

Except the bass extra point miss was a really bad snap.

 

Through his timing off.

 

 

Even better.   Keep Bass confidence level up.  Can blame it on the snapper. 

[BearNorth]

21 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Even better.   Keep Bass confidence level up.  Can blame it on the snapper. 

Reid Ferguson was also the guy who got bulldozed against the Rams when they blocked the punt that turned out to be the difference in the game.

So he is responsible in part for us not being the #1 seed.

[GASabresIUFan]

The game was a pre-season game played in week 18.  

Here are some of the things we found out.

 

1) White and/or Trubisky might be replaced this off-season as the backup QBs despite both being under contract.  Trubisky can be cut for a dead cap of 750K saving 2.5 million on next years cap.  I haven't seen all the terms on White's new deal, but he looked terrible against NE.  

 

2) Hamlin played 100% of the snaps.  It's pretty clear that McD wanted Hamlin to get back up to game speed but is undecided who starts against the Broncos between him and Bishop.  

 

3) Resting starters, staying healthy, team & individual accomplishments and getting guys their bonuses was more important than winning.  Hollins, Martin and Miller earned bonuses, Cook got over 1000 yards & tied OJ with 16 rushing TDs, and the team went 30/30 on rushing and passing TDs.  McD punted from the NE 35 to help Martin earn the bonus.  

[Aussie Joe]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFan said:

 

 

1) White and/or Trubisky might be replaced this off-season as the backup QBs despite both being under contract.  Trubisky can be cut for a dead cap of 750K saving 2.5 million on next years cap.  I haven't seen all the terms on White's new deal, but he looked terrible against NE.  

 

 

Might be time for the Bills to take another Day 3 flier on a QB and have him compete with Trubisky …I understand White has no guarantees and should not be seen again ..

 

Appreciate it’s probably tough for the Day 3 pick to beat out Trubisky … but they have enough picks this year to roll the dice ..

[GASabresIUFan]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

Might be time for the Bills to take another Day 3 flier on a QB and have him compete with Trubisky …I understand White has no guarantees and should not be seen again ..

 

Appreciate it’s probably tough for the Day 3 pick to beat out Trubisky … but they have enough picks this year to roll the dice ..

I agree on the day 3 flyer, especially if we get compensatory picks in round 5.  However, I think both are gone after the season.  

[BearNorth]

We also gave Joe Milton bragging rights to being the highest graded QB in PFF in 2024 - 95.8.

 

BTW everybody who was gushing about how fortunate KC was to have Wentz, he graded out in the same range and Mitch and Mike White - High 40's to 50.

 

Wonder if Tyrod would be interested in coming here to backup Josh?

[Don Otreply]

Face it, the Pats still need a ton of position upgrades, and likely a real QB, Maye isn’t all that and a bag of chips, they fuh ked up by not capitalizing on a great opportunity when it was knocking on their door, all this silly rationalizing otherwise is just a waste of brain activity and time spent typing those thoughts out onto the web. They done screwed the pooch no matter how anyone try’s to spin it.

 

you can agree with me or be wrong, 😁👍

 

GO BILLS!!!

Edited 2 hours ago by Don Otreply