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That was one hell of a hi-point catch and I couldn't believe he held onto it through his head squarely smashing off the ground with his whole body weight coming down on it. He noticeably stayed down for a second or 2 wincing in pain.  In my opinion claiming there's a personal matter  being dealt with is the Bills way of giving him rest/time to recover from smashing his noggin and getting concussed without the risk of the league not passing him on a physical to play Sunday. Watch that catch again and explain to me how he didn't ring his bell badly............

With that said go bills and let's March to the Superbowl, the winter soldier will take no prisoners!!!

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I saw the same thing and was thinking the same thing.........maybe the FO just gave him some time to rest his noggin after that head bump in the EZ.

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He said the pain was from his tailbone hitting the ground, which certainly seems logical. Plus, if he had a head injury and they're not reporting it, that wouldn't be ideal.

 

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So, are we talking about Amari Cooper? Al Cowlings? Alternating Current? Why do we have to guess? 

 

With that being said, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, why can’t we just take them at their word? 

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You get in pretty serious trouble witb the NFL lying about injuries. In the worst case scenario you can lose draft picks. It makes no sense for the Bills to lie about this. 

 

If they are saying there is a personal matter, there is a personal matter. If he was showing any concussion symptoms he would be in the protocol. I don't believe he was.

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Phew, for a moment there I simply thought a guy plays a  violent sport AND has an outside personal life.   It’s been killing me that there’s no secretive and manipulative movement between rules and regulations to deceive and obfuscate.    THIS take makes me feel better.

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15 minutes ago, BillsBlue said:

That was one hell of a hi-point catch and I couldn't believe he held onto it through his head squarely smashing off the ground with his whole body weight coming down on it. He noticeably stayed down for a second or 2 wincing in pain.  In my opinion claiming there's a personal matter  being dealt with is the Bills way of giving him rest/time to recover from smashing his noggin and getting concussed without the risk of the league not passing him on a physical to play Sunday. Watch that catch again and explain to me how he didn't ring his bell badly............

With that said go bills and let's March to the Superbowl, the winter soldier will take no prisoners!!!


 

I don’t disagree with he was sore on the play - saw it and agree.

 

I don’t think the Bills are actively flaunting the rules and risking getting fined or losing draft picks by not putting him in protocol with a head injury.

 

Since he had a back injury designation last week - I could see that, but I highly doubt they call it a personal matter as that would be highly suspicious if the NFL finds out they are hiding an injury.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, BillsBlue said:

That was one hell of a hi-point catch and I couldn't believe he held onto it through his head squarely smashing off the ground with his whole body weight coming down on it. He noticeably stayed down for a second or 2 wincing in pain.  In my opinion claiming there's a personal matter  being dealt with is the Bills way of giving him rest/time to recover from smashing his noggin and getting concussed without the risk of the league not passing him on a physical to play Sunday. Watch that catch again and explain to me how he didn't ring his bell badly............

With that said go bills and let's March to the Superbowl, the winter soldier will take no prisoners!!!

I remember the play and thinking to myself 'he sure is spending a lot of time on the ground'....The way he landed I thought he may have hurt his hip or his tailbone but the commentary at the time was he had the wind knocked out of him...

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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

You get in pretty serious trouble witb the NFL lying about injuries. In the worst case scenario you can lose draft picks. It makes no sense for the Bills to lie about this. 

 

If they are saying there is a personal matter, there is a personal matter. If he was showing any concussion symptoms he would be in the protocol. I don't believe he was.

If the league didn't mandate he go to the tent and get checked during the game and he didn't report it to the team openly but met with coach behind closed doors they could have kept it hush so that there was no way he could be ruled out of sundays game.....I'm sure crazier things have happened 

4 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


 

I don’t disagree with he was sore on the play - saw it and agree.

 

I don’t think the Bills are actively flaunting the rules and risking getting fined or losing draft picks by not putting him in protocol with a head injury.

 

Since he had a back injury designation last week - I could see that, but I highly doubt they call it a personal matter as that would be highly suspicious if the NFL finds out they are hiding an injury.

 

 

The nfl only knows what they're told and they didn't call down to tell the officials he needs to go to the blue tent and be checked out....

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1 minute ago, BillsBlue said:

If the league didn't mandate he go to the tent and get checked during the game and he didn't report it to the team openly but met with coach behind closed doors they could have kept it hush so that there was no way he could be ruled out of sundays game.....I'm sure crazier things have happened 

 

But why would they do that? What would be the incentive to take that risk? You need a motive.

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4 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:

I remember the play and thinking to myself 'he sure is spending a lot of time on the ground'....The way he landed I thought he may have hurt his hip or his tailbone but the commentary at the time was he had the wind knocked out of him...

His head bounced very hard off the turf, I was surprised when he got up off the ground I thought for a certain he would be knocked out. If the wind was knocked out of me would have been down for 10 to 15 seconds it takes a while to get up from that not one to two seconds

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

But why would they do that? What would be the incentive to take that risk? You need a motive.

So that there's no risk that the league can rule him out of Sunday's playoff game they can't rule him out if they don't know and again this is speculation but watching that play and seeing his head Smosh off the ground with his entire body weight I don't see there's any way how he didn't get a concussion to be honest that's physics

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22 minutes ago, Sweats said:

I saw the same thing and was thinking the same thing.........maybe the FO just gave him some time to rest his noggin after that head bump in the EZ.

could just be being cautious but I think he rung his bell and kept it to himself and I think his coaches noticed it and realized it and maybe they had a closed door talk and told him to take a couple weeks off and get ready

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23 minutes ago, BillsBlue said:

That was one hell of a hi-point catch and I couldn't believe he held onto it through his head squarely smashing off the ground with his whole body weight coming down on it. He noticeably stayed down for a second or 2 wincing in pain.  In my opinion claiming there's a personal matter  being dealt with is the Bills way of giving him rest/time to recover from smashing his noggin and getting concussed without the risk of the league not passing him on a physical to play Sunday. Watch that catch again and explain to me how he didn't ring his bell badly............

With that said go bills and let's March to the Superbowl, the winter soldier will take no prisoners!!!

 

Yeah I dont think the Bills are going to risk getting in trouble with the league by trying to hide something like that.

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5 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:

I remember the play and thinking to myself 'he sure is spending a lot of time on the ground'....The way he landed I thought he may have hurt his hip or his tailbone but the commentary at the time was he had the wind knocked out of him...


Yea, I would think wind knocked out of him too.  There was ice in the driveway one time and I totally didn’t expect it.  Legs went up in to the air and I landed very solidly on my back, definitely took a few moments to catch the breath and was extremely sore the next day.

 

 

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1 minute ago, BillsBlue said:

 

So that there's no risk that the league can rule him out of Sunday's playoff game they can't rule him out if they don't know and again this is speculation but watching that play and seeing his head Smosh off the ground with his entire body weight I don't see there's any way how he didn't get a concussion to be honest that's physics

 

But the playoff game was two weeks away. Sure, you can be in the protocol that length of time but it is unusual. I don't buy it. 

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12 minutes ago, Rubes said:

He said the pain was from his tailbone hitting the ground, which certainly seems logical. Plus, if he had a head injury and they're not reporting it, that wouldn't be ideal.

 

It's a business first and foremost the league and teams have proven that time and time again from Bounty gate to inflate gate ethics aren't really the biggest thing even though we have the most ethical team in my opinion and that's how this back for years as far as competition and taking it all the way goes

12 minutes ago, Augie said:

So, are we talking about Amari Cooper? Al Cowlings? Alternating Current? Why do we have to guess? 

 

With that being said, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, why can’t we just take them at their word? 

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10 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:

I remember the play and thinking to myself 'he sure is spending a lot of time on the ground'....The way he landed I thought he may have hurt his hip or his tailbone but the commentary at the time was he had the wind knocked out of him...

The look on his face and how tightly clenched his teeth where Etc and his eyes going wide open like that signaled had pain/ concussion to me it's physics look at the way I said smashed off the ground with this whole body weight he's not a small guy

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

But why would they do that? What would be the incentive to take that risk? You need a motive.

Incentive is a win and a shot at the bowl

3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Yeah I dont think the Bills are going to risk getting in trouble with the league by trying to hide something like that.

Is the risk worth it if they win the Super Bowl

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

But the playoff game was two weeks away. Sure, you can be in the protocol that length of time but it is unusual. I don't buy it. 

There's people that have been kept and protocol for prolonged periods of time look at Tua, I think it's a risk they weren't willing to take and they knew they needed him to get past the Broncos

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4 minutes ago, BillsBlue said:

It's a business first and foremost the league and teams have proven that time and time again from Bounty gate to inflate gate ethics aren't really the biggest thing even though we have the most ethical team in my opinion and that's how this back for years as far as competition and taking it all the way goes

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The look on his face and how tightly clenched his teeth where Etc and his eyes going wide open like that signaled had pain/ concussion to me it's physics look at the way I said smashed off the ground with this whole body weight he's not a small guy

Incentive is a win and a shot at the bowl

Is the risk worth it if they win the Super Bowl

 

They arent going to risk losing draft picks to hide an injury or concussion. Not many players take more than two weeks in concussion protocol. The Bills are straight shooters.

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