mushypeaches Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I think that the WR contract market is heading in the same direction as RB's long-term Perhaps not quite as extreme, but there's just not the incremental value that comes in locking up players at that position in super crazy second contracts when you have the quality and quantity of players coming in each draft class. Especially with how offensive schemes are being designed these days and the WR-RB roles becoming more interchangeable. Maybe I just love the direction that the Bills have seemingly gone in with prioritizing OL quality and depth in favor of paying at the WR position. It's certainly worked this year and is more sustainable long-term. And also... EFF Tyreek Hill 2 2 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 7:48 PM, T.E. said: Really interesting how some of these guys have no loyalty whatsoever to organizations who give them insane money and do everything in their power to make them successful on the field. Miami gave Hill $105 MM guaranteed, and he feels no shame at all about causing problems during an off year. Expand If character meant you had Olympic speed, Nate Peterman would have been the fastest man on the planet. 1 Quote
somnus00 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 7:16 PM, Freddie's Dead said: Who is Stephen Diggs? Expand If I'm mid-paragraph of my innocuous post on page 53 of a discussion...I'm still going pause to look up the proper spelling of Edefuan Ulofoshio before clicking, "Submit Reply." In a way, I envy the level of IDGAF needed to open a new discussion with the misspelling of a well-known former Bill's name in the title. 2 4 1 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted January 6 Posted January 6 The real answer to these outsized pubescent childrens antics is to put them on the bench, or IR them for a month, you can bet your azs if every team employed such tactics their whiny sh-t would stop real quick, The IR designation would be that they are psychologically unable to contribute, … just a thought… GO BILLS!!! Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 7:19 PM, Augie said: You know they have to agree to it, right? That’s why they have agents and stuff. You have to compete in the market, not in a vacuum. Expand And yet, here we are with A Cooper on a reasonable deal - unable to hold the Bills hostage. The point is, the Bills do have some control over the contracts of the players they get. Unfortunately the Bills need a top tier WR for next year. It's hard to get a non-diva top tier WR, so the Bills need to be careful. The D Adams/ T Hill/ S Diggs of the world need to be avoided. Maybe A Cooper if he shows a little more, or a big move for DK Metcalf. Quote
Sweats Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 7:28 PM, HOUSE said: He used my favorite excuse, "I have to take care of my family." I am sure they won't starve but maybe the Lamborghini is using to much gas. . Expand The dudes got like 16 kids to take care..........pimping ain't easy, bro 1 Quote
Augie Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 8:42 PM, Einstein's Dog said: And yet, here we are with A Cooper on a reasonable deal - unable to hold the Bills hostage. The point is, the Bills do have some control over the contracts of the players they get. Unfortunately the Bills need a top tier WR for next year. It's hard to get a non-diva top tier WR, so the Bills need to be careful. The D Adams/ T Hill/ S Diggs of the world need to be avoided. Maybe A Cooper if he shows a little more, or a big move for DK Metcalf. Expand The financial end of the Cooper’s old deal was a fairly unique situation and why we gave up a 3rd rounder. I’m glad there was something they could do, like getting Douglas last year when we ran out of DBs. It doesn’t mean we can dictate the market on new deals. But yes, I fully agree we are going to need to do something at WR again next offseason. For now I’ll just enjoy the ride and hope it’s a long one! 1 Quote
JP51 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) On 1/6/2025 at 7:35 PM, Mr. WEO said: what's that got to do with the OP's topic? Players get injured. Not something for factoring into contract length--unless the player has a significant history and is near end of career.. Expand Well, actually I thought I was trying to agree with you... that Diggs situation is that he is on IR and not likely to be in a situation where he gets a long term contract next year because he is unlikely to make an impact next year... like OBJ getting 1 or maybe 2 year deals... so I actually think the situation the poster stated will apply to him getting a shorter term deal... but not for the reasons premise (the DIVA status, getting thru a contract and drafting new, diminishing the WR role etc... ) but because he is 30 something coming off a mid year ACL and I dont see him getting a long term contract with that kind of risk . Now if that is not what you were saying when you were saying Diggs situation is he is on IR then I misinterpreted your meaning... but never the less I think he gets a short term contact next year because of the injury not the fact he is a DIVA. That being said... I do think his stints with the Bills and the Vikings could scare some teams away even if they considered a 1 or 2 year deal. Edited January 6 by JP51 1 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 7:59 PM, somnus00 said: If I'm mid-paragraph of my innocuous post on page 53 of a discussion...I'm still going pause to look up the proper spelling of Edefuan Ulofoshio before clicking, "Submit Reply." In a way, I envy the level of IDGAF needed to open a new discussion with the misspelling of a well-known former Bill's name in the title. Expand I've abbreviated him to Fo'Sho'... 1 1 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 7:48 PM, T.E. said: Really interesting how some of these guys have no loyalty whatsoever to organizations who give them insane money and do everything in their power to make them successful on the field. Miami gave Hill $105 MM guaranteed, and he feels no shame at all about causing problems during an off year. Expand Loyalty counts both ways, and teams owe players little. Every player needs to look out for their own interests. But ideally you have a situation where some goodwill exists between parties. 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted January 6 Posted January 6 First, I believe Diggs never played one down for his extension but he got a big bonus for it. We can thank Hill's contract in Miami for most of that 31M Dead cap hit this year. Second, I know I am in the minority here but elite WR's are over valued IMO. What AFC teams have the best WR's? Houston, Jets, Dolphins Bengals...three of those teams are not in the playoffs and the one that is had a ton of injuries to WR's, Houston lost Dell, Diggs and Collins (for some of the season). The Chiefs traded one of the most unique talents at WR and then won the next two SB's with trash at WR. After QB, I really don't think elite WR is next in the importance list...it is probably coaching and scheme and players who can do what is asked at a competent level. 4 Quote
Irv Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) Throw him on the scrap heap with the rest of the losers: OJ, OBJ, AB, Ochocinco, TO, Randy Moss, Keyshawn Johnson, DeShaun Jackson, Plaxico Burress, Le'Veon Bell etc. All playing from the book "How to Be and Idiot and End Up Broke". F Hill. Edited January 6 by Irv Quote
Doc Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 7:17 PM, HOUSE said: Tyreek is great but not worth the headache plus he is 31 in March. Expand Too bad he isn't more like Tremaine Edmunds in that department. 1 Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 7:16 PM, Freddie's Dead said: Who is Stephen Diggs? Expand 1 1 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 7:24 PM, 947 said: There will always be stupid teams who sign WRs to crazy deals. A few years ago, nobody would've believed a team would ever give a QB a fully guaranteed contract, and here we are... Expand Well that may be a one off after the disaster that became lol... Quote
Ralonzo Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) On 1/6/2025 at 7:13 PM, RyanC883 said: perhaps for WR. Reminds me of that hilarious commercial for I forget what brand where the diva WR is drafted, celebrates, and falls down the stairs. Expand This isn't the ad you were thinking but it's what came to mind. Can't wait for Malik Nabors' second contract negotiation after this legendary draft interview "My jacket... shows a tribute to the legacy of me at LSU" Edited January 6 by Ralonzo 2 Quote
reddogblitz Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 9:09 PM, Matt_In_NH said: What AFC teams have the best WR's? Houston, Jets, Dolphins Bengals...three of those teams are not in the playoffs Expand I'm gonna add Pittsburgh to the teams with really good WRs list that made the playoffs. KCs WRs aren't anything to sneeze at either IMHO. Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 1/6/2025 at 9:09 PM, Irv said: Throw him on the scrap heap with the rest of the losers: OJ, OBJ, AB, Ochocinco, TO, Randy Moss, Keyshawn Johnson, DeShaun Jackson, Plaxico Burress, Le'Veon Bell etc. All playing from the book "How to Be and Idiot and End Up Broke". F Hill. Expand Did a WR in high school steal your girlfriend? 1 Quote
JoshAllin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) Wanted to see Diggs diva out with how poor houstons been playing, too bad he's out and will be a no show come playoffs again Edited January 6 by JoshAllin Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted January 7 Posted January 7 On 1/6/2025 at 10:59 PM, reddogblitz said: I'm gonna add Pittsburgh to the teams with really good WRs list that made the playoffs. KCs WRs aren't anything to sneeze at either IMHO. Expand They are not in a tier with those other teams. No way. 1 Quote
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