Buffalo03 Posted Monday at 07:56 PM Posted Monday at 07:56 PM 40 minutes ago, mannc said: Brady has had an up and down career and has yet to make big money. He was never a head coach in college, and his first OC job (co-OC, actually) ended badly and quickly. He came to Buffalo as the quarterback coach, I think. It would be silly for him to turn down a four-year $20 million contract from anyone, including the Jets. I’m not sure what Brady makes currently, but it’s definitely not in that neighborhood. If anything were to happen to Josh Allen, his chance of becoming an NFL head coach would be nonexistent. Yeah, but me personally, I would rather win 3 Super Bowls ac an OC somewhere than go to a dumpster fire franchise to be a HC. But that's just me 1 Quote
mannc Posted Monday at 08:02 PM Posted Monday at 08:02 PM 2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Yeah, but me personally, I would rather win 3 Super Bowls ac an OC somewhere than go to a dumpster fire franchise to be a HC. But that's just me There is no guarantee Brady will win 3 Super Bowls if he stays in Buffalo. And going to the "dumpster fire franchise" as HC would garner the proverbial "generational wealth". Not many people would turn that down. And of course there's also the possibility that Brady believes in himself and thinks he can succeed where Robert Saleh and Adam Gase failed. 1 Quote
JMM Posted Monday at 08:03 PM Posted Monday at 08:03 PM 2 hours ago, Bruffalo said: Good for Brady to be drawing attention. It's deserved, even if it is early timeline-wise for his career. That being said, this is the philosophical issue with having a defensive headcoach when you have an elite game changing QB. Every 1-2 years we'll probably have another OC. Will it matter? I don't know, I guess it really depends on Allen. Even with Dorsey stinking up the place, he still looked elite. This. It's going to continue to be an issue, since Josh is a unicorn every OC is going to look good and get HC opportunities. Then he has to start over. It's a tough issue. 1 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted Monday at 08:17 PM Posted Monday at 08:17 PM Hey Jets, Ken Dorsey is available if you don't want Rex Ryan. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted Monday at 08:18 PM Posted Monday at 08:18 PM 59 minutes ago, mannc said: Brady has had an up and down career and has yet to make big money. He was never a head coach in college, and his first OC job (co-OC, actually) ended badly and quickly. He came to Buffalo as the quarterback coach, I think. It would be silly for him to turn down a four-year $20 million contract from anyone, including the Jets. I’m not sure what Brady makes currently, but it’s definitely not in that neighborhood. If anything were to happen to Josh Allen, his chance of becoming an NFL head coach would be nonexistent. While all of that is true it is similar to Ben Johnson. He has never made big money and indeed he doesn't even have a Josh Allen size guarantee that his offense will be decent again the following year and has turned jobs down the last two cycles at Carolina and then Washington because he wasn't convinced on ownership's vision. This isn't a great cycle of jobs. If the five available now are all that are coming I can well imagine a hot candidate deciding to keep his powder dry unless his is in a "lightening in a bottle" type situation where you think the chance won't come again. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted Monday at 08:20 PM Posted Monday at 08:20 PM THIS NONSENSE NEEDS TO STOP. TEAMS THAT MISS THE PLAYOFFS CAN WAIT TO HIRE COACHES UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS ARE OVER STOP DISRUPTING TEAM OPERATIONS Thank you for your cooperation in this matter 1 Quote
BigDingus Posted Monday at 08:20 PM Posted Monday at 08:20 PM C'mon Joe... You're smarter than this! Don't go to that disfunctional organization! And c'mon Pegula... You'0re smarter than this! Pay Brady like a HC to keep him around & supplant McDermott in the future! Better to have a consistent offense that works with Josh while seeking out a better coordinator to address the D. In the McDermott era we've had the exact opposite. We keep our ineffective defense consistent while bouncing around offensive coordinators despite having a great QB. KC has been so successful because Mahomes has stability with Reid at the helm. We need that for Josh. Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted Monday at 08:23 PM Posted Monday at 08:23 PM (edited) Joe is not head coaching material. He's way too young. He's going to walk into the Jets locker room and the players will think he's the equipment manager Edited Monday at 08:23 PM by JakeFrommStateFarm 1 Quote
mannc Posted Monday at 08:41 PM Posted Monday at 08:41 PM 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: While all of that is true it is similar to Ben Johnson. He has never made big money and indeed he doesn't even have a Josh Allen size guarantee that his offense will be decent again the following year and has turned jobs down the last two cycles at Carolina and then Washington because he wasn't convinced on ownership's vision. This isn't a great cycle of jobs. If the five available now are all that are coming I can well imagine a hot candidate deciding to keep his powder dry unless his is in a "lightening in a bottle" type situation where you think the chance won't come again. Johnson’s OC contract was reportedly adjusted upward after the 2022 season and it is believed that he’s been paid between $3.5 and $4 million a year since then. Brady is probably making $1.5 million or less per year. That would give him a very different perspective than Johnson, who would probably be in position to get another raise if he decides to stay in Detroit. Quote
Buffalo03 Posted Monday at 08:46 PM Posted Monday at 08:46 PM 42 minutes ago, mannc said: There is no guarantee Brady will win 3 Super Bowls if he stays in Buffalo. And going to the "dumpster fire franchise" as HC would garner the proverbial "generational wealth". Not many people would turn that down. And of course there's also the possibility that Brady believes in himself and thinks he can succeed where Robert Saleh and Adam Gase failed. I'm sorry I mean "the chance" of winning multiple Super Bowls Quote
Beck Water Posted Monday at 08:51 PM Posted Monday at 08:51 PM 4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I believe the Jets will end up with Aaron Glenn, DC of Lions. That is the only type of HC candidate they can seriously attract. A Defensive coach who is getting a bigger opportunity than he probably deserves right now. Either that or Chan Gailey might be available. I got to say Glenn had the Lions D looking fierce last night. Collinsworth kept babbling about how the Lions had no one who could provide any pressure while Darnold was getting tossed around like a rag doll and running for his life back there. And the Jets have good defensive players. Quote
WotAGuy Posted Monday at 08:57 PM Posted Monday at 08:57 PM Sounds like we need Joe to do a crappy job in the playoffs if we hope to keep him. Maybe a shutout? Quote
UKBillFan Posted Monday at 09:07 PM Posted Monday at 09:07 PM 9 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Sounds like we need Joe to do a crappy job in the playoffs if we hope to keep him. Maybe a shutout? If he somehow manages that I imagine us fans will be calling for him to go. Quote
frostbitmic Posted Monday at 09:11 PM Posted Monday at 09:11 PM Did Brady laugh at the request from the Jests ? The Jests job is meant for one man ... A Rex Ryan and the Jests reunion would make the world a better place. Is this thing on, it's about to be. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted Monday at 09:16 PM Posted Monday at 09:16 PM Folks on Gang Green seem more excited about the prospects of Kliff Kingsbury… Im tempted to join up, so I can tell them they are getting Sexy Rexy back, and they are going to love it! Quote
GunnerBill Posted Monday at 09:32 PM Posted Monday at 09:32 PM 50 minutes ago, mannc said: Johnson’s OC contract was reportedly adjusted upward after the 2022 season and it is believed that he’s been paid between $3.5 and $4 million a year since then. Brady is probably making $1.5 million or less per year. That would give him a very different perspective than Johnson, who would probably be in position to get another raise if he decides to stay in Detroit. You don't think the Bills would be willing to do that for Brady? Spending on coaching and front office staff has never been a problem for Pegs previously. Our guys are pretty well remunerated compared to their peers generally. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted Monday at 09:37 PM Posted Monday at 09:37 PM The Jets and Saints jobs are the worst of the available openings. Not sure Brady has enough overall experience outside of an OC role. Fair or not he was let go by the Panthers. I think a couple more years here would be good for him. But certainly smart to interview. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Monday at 09:38 PM Posted Monday at 09:38 PM 51 minutes ago, Process said: Dammit, knew it was coming On the flip side... Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted Monday at 11:05 PM Posted Monday at 11:05 PM 1 hour ago, QLBillsFan said: The Jets and Saints jobs are the worst of the available openings. Not sure Brady has enough overall experience outside of an OC role. Fair or not he was let go by the Panthers. I think a couple more years here would be good for him. But certainly smart to interview. The thing not a lot of people recall is that before his stint with that Panthers, Joe Brady had been interviewing for HC jobs since way back in 2021. In addition, he interviewed for the Falcons job last year. He is extremely well though of in league circles and has vastly rebuilt his image since his time under Matt Rhule with the Panthers. Saints and Jets this cycle have already requested interviews and I expect one or two more to come down before hiring starts. In a rather boring HC cycle, he has the youth, energy and offense mind owners can get dazzled by. And it only takes one offer If I'm betting I believe he will get an offer this cycle. Quote
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