One Thing: Keon looked terrible yesterday

[corta765]

He has looked very very shaky since coming back from injury. Not sure if it is still bothering him, the speed of the game, rookie wall etc.. but he had looked up until injury really like he was coming into his own.

Regardless I hope he can get it going as we have no second chances now.

[MikePJ76]

Oh god.  
 

 

[Mr. WEO]

needs Stickum

[BuffaloBillyG]

Coleman was one of the few WRs I didn't really want Buffalo to draft. But guess what, they did and he's here now so I'm going to be optimistic.

 

I'm anxious to see how he improves in his sophomore season. Wonder what work he will put in during his first NFL off season. I also think (if he's back next year) Joe Brady will take some time and figure out how to better utilize him this off season. 

 

It also couldn't have helped missing a chunk of time in his rookie season due to injury. Let's give the kid a chance to put the work in.

 

All in all, yes he's been inconsistent, but he's shown flashes to be able to make a big play as his YPC would suggest. 

 

I do still think WR is a need, especially if they let Cooper walk. I hope they look to address it in FA over the draft because I want DL in the draft this year.

[Freak-O]

One bad game after good season, and that was a game we didn’t even want to win, and now we’re worried? Isn’t that a bit stupid? 

[Pete]

Bills this offseason need a #1 WR- either by high draft pick, or free agent signing. We need a WR that is great route runner, and who can take off defense.  Preferably a non diva who buys into “everyone eats”. This will make Bills offense unstoppable.

 

What WR would not want to play with Josh, and the Mighty Bills? 
 

This offseason, my wish list is a #1 WR and stud One Tech DT

 

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

He will be fine. But, we still need a stud wr that can separate and get deep.

 

Add that, and massively upgrade the defensive talent this offseason 

[GunnerBill]

There were four downfield throws to him on the outside yesterday which he should have caught. If he gets 2/4 or 3/4 fine, but he came up with zero. And the reason is something that I pointed out on his film prior to the draft. When he is outside and he has a contested release he has a strong tendency to play to contact. He goes and feels for the DB and takes his positioning on the field off of that. This results in him losing leverage and essentially being "reactive" in the down rather than proactive and dictating to the DB.

 

It's why I liked him more as a big slot. Because when he gets free releases - as you do much more in the slot - he dictates - he decides where he is going gets to his landmarks and boxes out any defenders that come into his space out. He does not do that outside, he plays to contact. @BADOLBILZ and I talked about it on here mid season and he speculated it could be a hangover from his basketball background. I know zero about basketball so I will take his word for it, but it makes sense if it's a learned habit. It is why so often outside it looks like he has a defender draped on him. He doesn't separate because he almost isn't trying to separate. He is trying to feel the defender and play off him. I talked to another poster after the draft about it too but he is one of the only shows up after losses guys and I can't remember his handle. 

 

It is something that is coachable. It can improve. But it is a major factor in his lack of separation and so it needs to improve fast if he is going to develop into anything more than a complimentary piece in an offense. I am still where I was pre-draft with him. If you are drafting him to replace and upgrade on Gabe Davis, I'm in. If you are drafting him to be a #1 type outside receiver, I'm out. Which means whenever this season comes to an end, under confetti or otherwise, the Bills have to work out what to do with Amari Cooper and at that #1 outside spot. Because "Keon will develop into that in year 2" is going to be a tremendously hard sell to some of us. 

 

When you add the struggles in the pass game to two penalties for false start / illegal formations.... it was a very rough day for Keon. The success they had with him pre-injury was using him a bit inside or in tight splits and getting him in the middle of the field for catch and runs. That is what I hope they get back to in the playoffs. Forcing balls to him on the boundary 4 or 5 times a game is a recipe for failure. 

[Sweats]

13 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

For pity's sake, this is silly. Nobody had such expectations--I certainly didn't. And I've been generally supportive of Coleman and expect him to improve. 

 

But there's no denying that, for whatever reason, he looked bad yesterday.

 

 

 

..........and Coleman was the worst player on a team that really didn't care about the outcome of the game?

 

Do you see where i'm going with this?!?

[JaCrispy]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

needs Stickum

The curse of Gabe Davis 😉

[Ethan in Cleveland]

He's going to be an option of last resort in the playoffs.  Playoffs is where the real talent emerges. Get ready for a heavy dose of Cooper, Shakir, Cook, and Kincaid/Knox in the playoffs.  Hollins and Johnson will get some clutch catches as well.  I would not be shocked if Coleman gets less targets/catches than even Samuel.  

[Pete]

3 minutes ago, Freak-O said:

One bad game after good season, and that was a game we didn’t even want to win, and now we’re worried? Isn’t that a bit stupid? 

 

[Rocky Landing]

Apparently he’s pretty slow in the walk-throughs, also. 

[Einstein]

10 minutes ago, Freak-O said:

One bad game after good season, and that was a game we didn’t even want to win, and now we’re worried? Isn’t that a bit stupid? 

 

It’s not one bad game.

 

He has been inconsistent all season - and more prominently post injury.

 

 

[Gunsgoodtime]

33 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

Yeah it's amazing how quickly the board is to turn on someone, really. It was a preseason game, like you said. Drawing any conclusions on starters yesterday is bad. 

 

I watched Rapp get beat... does he need his own thread? 

No we already know Rapp and Hamlin are backups pushed into starter roles.  That's exactly what happened 

[Captain Hindsight]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

He wears number zero for a reason

HIs speed rating on madden? Someone as Brick

[Behindenemylines]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

He wears number zero for a reason

That was his combine speed

[Don Otreply]

The responses here to a player in a game that the HC was purposefully trying to lose and still look like we were trying to be competitive in is remarkable, in which the pearls have likely all been crushed by these “fans” 

 

LOL, lighten the hell up folks,

 

GO BILLS!!!

[JohnNord]

1 hour ago, Dr. K said:

I realize he was being thrown to by Trubisky and White instead of Allen, but against a bad secondary he got zero separation yesterday. Two catches on ten targets. 

 

He's shown some real flashes this season, but I'd say I'm more worried about him and his prospects now than I have been before this game. 

I wasn’t really surprised.  We all knew that he didn’t have great separation and that he’d need to work on his route running.   I think an entire offseason will help. 
 

My bigger concern is when he’s had a chance to make plays, like last week’s insane throw and scramble from Josh that was wiped away by holding, he doesn’t always finish the catch.   Granted these aren’t easy catches but if you’re not going to get separation and are known as a “50/50” guy, you need to make those catches.  He probably had 2 of those situations yesterday.  

 

Keon is much better when facing zone defense in shorter areas.  It does make you wonder whether he ultimately will be best used as a “power slot WR” as many draft analysts believed. Problem is - Buffalo already has a good slot WR that’s likely on the verge of re-signing

[zow2]

I agree, Keon looked awful and kinda disinterested.   Denver plays a tough man to man and it's getting pretty clear that Keon cannot get separation.  Not sure how Brady can scheme him open?  I'm not loving having to toss him contested passes in a very close playoff game.  Sometimes those are picked and the completion percentage is low.