Chris Grier and Mike McDaniels will return to Dolphins next season, team announces

[stevewin]

2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

I still think when healthy, Miami is a pretty solid 10-11 win team.

But... They got a fragile QB who can't stay healthy, and always seem to choke in big games.

 

And can't win in temps below 40 degrees

 

I always say it when the subject comes up - if anyone thinks McDaniel is a good NFL HC and leader of men, watch last year's in-season Hard Knocks.  Spoiler alert - he's not

[Ralonzo]

[chris heff]

The state of the AFC East is interesting. The Bills used to be the dysfunctional organization, not anymore . The other teams in the division now have the meddling owners making one bad decision after another. The Jets have blown it up, after an all in on Aaron Rogers failed spectacularly. The Dolphins focus should have been protecting the often injured Tua. Instead they bring in Hill, a divisive player. Overpaid him, which lead to not being able to to keep good players on defense. The Patriots for decades had one man in charge of everything, eventually that catches up with you. They don’t hire a GM and technically still don’t have one, that is not Eliot Wolf’s title (I know it is semantics), but why not just call him the GM? They hire a head coach with no head coaching experience at any level, and now fire him. Incredibly of the teams not named the Bills, in the AFC East, they are in the best shape, but still a mess. Those owners are not going to change. The Bills should own the division for the foreseeable future.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

13 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

They went 9-3 down the stretch if my numbers are correct and started playing defense really well.  Another year in that defense is going to make them pretty tough next year.

 

they basically missed the playoffs because of Tua's injuries which should have been a point of emphasis for them in the offseason.  Not having a good backup like Joe flacco or someone who could win you 2 out of 4 games if tua was out was basically the gm letting the team down.

That Texans game threw some cold water on the whole ‘we turned it around’ narrative for their fans I think.  Tua looked awful in a must win game.  They were pretty bad until garbage time against gb too down the stretch. 

also your numbers are not correct they didn’t even win 9 games total lol. They went 6-3 down the stretch  and 5 of those wins were CLE,LV,NE,NYJ,SF.its usually a scheduling anomaly when they go on a decent run because they pretty much exclusively lose to good teams.  
 

they weren’t much better with Tua vs without too.  Tua was 6-5 this year when starting. granted his matchups were tougher but I don’t think their fans are having that ‘if we only had tua’ feeling you’re describing 

Edited Monday at 04:11 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[MikePJ76]

29 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

That Texans game threw some cold water on the whole ‘we turned it around’ narrative for their fans I think.  Tua looked awful in a must win game.  They were pretty bad until garbage time against gb too down the stretch. 

also your numbers are not correct they didn’t even win 9 games total lol. They went 6-3 down the stretch  and 5 of those wins were CLE,LV,NE,NYJ,SF.its usually a scheduling anomaly when they go on a decent run because they pretty much exclusively lose to good teams.  
 

they weren’t much better with Tua vs without too.  Tua was 6-5 this year when starting. granted his matchups were tougher but I don’t think their fans are having that ‘if we only had tua’ feeling you’re describing 

Yea i realized after I posted it was definitely not 9-3 and I was just doing it off the top of my head and someone corrected me right away so I didn’t bother to edit it.

 

and yea I didn’t mean they were great but losing tua kills them.  They just seem especially unprepared for it when they have a qb with a very delicate situation.

[FLFan]

Mike McDaniels is the gift that keeps on giving for Bills fans.  Welcome back little guy! 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Yea i realized after I posted it was definitely not 9-3 and I was just doing it off the top of my head and someone corrected me right away so I didn’t bother to edit it.

 

and yea I didn’t mean they were great but losing tua kills them.  They just seem especially unprepared for it when they have a qb with a very delicate situation.

It didn’t make a humongous difference this year but yea Huntley is considerably worse.  They had tua for a lot of the tougher games this year and long enough to turn it around and still lost to pretty much all the good teams.  
 

I think teams skimp on backup qbs because even if you have a pretty good one you’re probably not winning a Super Bowl anyway so they see it as wasted resources 

Edited Monday at 04:45 PM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[MikePJ76]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

It didn’t make a humongous difference this year but yea Huntley is considerably worse.  They had tua for a lot of the tougher games this year and long enough to turn it around and still lost to pretty much all the good teams.  
 

I think teams skimp on backup qbs because even if you have a pretty good one you’re probably not winning a Super Bowl anyway so they see it as wasted resources 

Yea it’s a weird take that seemingly every organization has. 
 

especially when Nick foles just won a Super Bowl like 8 years ago.

 

I imagine it’s a money thing.  Really good backups like Gardner minshew types are still expensive.

[Sweats]

I think Miami was looking at this year as "their year".......they will be in cap hell starting next season, Hill wants out, still have an overpaid Tua on the roster, etc.

 

They are a disgusting mess and wallowing in their own filth........and i'm loving it.

[The Frankish Reich]

Speed ages poorly. It was fun to watch while it lasted. The Dolphins window has already closed.

[MJS]

I personally think it would be better for the Bills if the Dolphins went into rebuild mode. That's another 2 or 3 seasons, at least, of them not being a contender, most likely. They have the ability to be a pesky team as it stands right now.

 

On the other hand, a rebuild means there is a small chance that they get it right.

 

I want our divisional opponents to be rebuilding as much as possible, though. Rebuilding teams usually suck.

[MRW]

6 minutes ago, Sweats said:

I think Miami was looking at this year as "their year".......they will be in cap hell starting next season, Hill wants out, still have an overpaid Tua on the roster, etc.

 

They are a disgusting mess and wallowing in their own filth........and i'm loving it.

 

 

[thenorthremembers]

1 minute ago, Sweats said:

I think Miami was looking at this year as "their year".......they will be in cap hell starting next season, Hill wants out, still have an overpaid Tua on the roster, etc.

 

They are a disgusting mess and wallowing in their own filth........and i'm loving it.

 

They really needed to do a better job of building a culture rather than just collecting talent.   Now they have two about to be over 30-year-old divas who both want out of the organization in Hill and Ramsey.    To move on from them it's going to cost them somewhere in the range of $52 million dollars which they will owe through the 2028 season.   

 

I suppose it makes sense to keep Grier and Mini Mike through next season so they dont have to pay each of them money to do nothing as well.    They need to fully tear down and build up. 

[Sweats]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

I personally think it would be better for the Bills if the Dolphins went into rebuild mode. That's another 2 or 3 seasons, at least, of them not being a contender, most likely. They have the ability to be a pesky team as it stands right now.

 

On the other hand, a rebuild means there is a small chance that they get it right.

 

I want our divisional opponents to be rebuilding as much as possible, though. Rebuilding teams usually suck.

 

 

Next year could very well be a rebuild year for the Fins........they will be starting their cap hell, Tua and Waddle are locked up and Hill wants out. They also let too many decent D players walk last year and thought they could replace them with deadbeats and scrubs.

 

They are falling apart and can't possibly hope to progress forward without some meaningful changes.

[DrDawkinstein]

YOU LOVE TO SEE IT

[Mango]

14 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Great news! And they are stuck with Tua who has one healthy year since high school and who even when he is healthy isn't good enough to beat Allen.

 

Honestly, when are the Bills even going to be threatened again in the division?

 

2027 maybe at the earliest?

 

All 3 teams are essentially dumpster fires.

 

 Not to derail the thread, but Tua is really bad for the league. He is clearly at major risk of something catastrophic happening to him. And if it does the league is going to run into a host of lawsuits and become extremely costly to insure. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

17 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Yea it’s a weird take that seemingly every organization has. 
 

especially when Nick foles just won a Super Bowl like 8 years ago.

 

I imagine it’s a money thing.  Really good backups like Gardner minshew types are still expensive.

Yea I think more often than not spending that money to upgrade one of your starters makes more sense than spending it on a backup qb but Miami is probably a special case where they pretty much have to do it 

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

 Not to derail the thread, but Tua is really bad for the league. He is clearly at major risk of something catastrophic happening to him. And if it does the league is going to run into a host of lawsuits and become extremely costly to insure. 

 

At his healthy best all season, he is no real threat to the Bills.  Typically, he will be injured for half the season and they will go of the rails. 

Edited Monday at 05:10 PM by Big Turk

[stevewin]

15 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Speed ages poorly. It was fun to watch while it lasted. The Dolphins window has already closed.

Old enough to remember when talking heads were giddily proclaiming how the Fins team speed "wasn't fair" to the rest of the league - and what an unstoppable genius McDaniel was (hE pUt ReCeIvErS iN mOtIoN!!!!!!!!!!!)

Edited Monday at 05:16 PM by stevewin

[Low Positive]

Remember, just a year and a half ago the Fins put up 70 on the Broncos and McDaniel was the future of the sport. They were doing roller coaster TD celebrations. Life comes at you fast.