Broncos at Bills Sunday 1pm (confirmed)

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

49 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

So do the teams he’s losing to. The Josh Allen argument doesn’t work until he loses to a QB worse than Josh Allen.

 

McDermott haters should probably hope he loses to Denver. Losing to Baltimore or KC won’t change anything.

It really is an interesting situation…mcd isn’t beating the chiefs in the playoffs but nobody is. I could understand the other side of the argument more if other teams were having sustained success against the playoff chiefs and we weren’t but the only active head coach to beat the chiefs in the playoffs since mahomes took over is probably getting fired in the next couple years.  Heck one of the nfc coaches that snuck through and won the superbowl that time the chiefs lost just got fired from a second team since then 🤣

 

 The odds the new coach you bring in has more luck against the chiefs are pretty slim imo

Marvin Lewis never even won a first round playoff game in 7 tries, was 8-26 against the Steelers, and had back to back to back losing seasons when he was fired.  I don’t even understand the comparison.  

Edited 19 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[PoundingDog]

Overall. this Bills team is better than Denver, probably more than just better. I don't think anyone can deny that.

 

Looking into the details, this Bills team is flawed, in particular, on defense, which is unlike what we had in recent years. I mean when everyone is healthy, this defense has issues unlike the previous years. So that means you have to look into matchups. Can the Broncos take advantage of Bills flaws to make a more even leveled game? 

 

I have not watched enough Broncos' game to make a meaningful case. On paper, it looks like strength against strength (Bills' O against Broncos' D) and weakness against weakness (Bills' D against Broncos' O). If one team wins on both sides, I'm fairly confident that team wins. If it is a mixed, it is going to be a nail biter and could come down to special teams. Regardless, I agree with Steve Tasker that Bills are going to get the best of Broncos because wildcard games usually mean the team worked hard to get in and had momentum, not necessarily mean they are going to win. Remember Josh Allen's first playoff game in Houston? The Bills need to be able to take the punch and then use the overall superior talent to overwhelming them. 

[Dillenger4]

8 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

 

 

I'm taking them seriously, and Denver's D looks solid but the more I hear about Nix and the Broncos offense (from Denver journalists no less!) I feel more confident

 

-Minimal run game

- No big bodies TE for over the middle 

- Nix doesn't make bad decisions so much as he's still learning coverages

- Off with his deep ball, tends to overthrow

-Best route is a 12-15 dig to Sutton

 

This is probably jinxing us but this is the kind of offense McDermott built his scheme to hold in check. Disguised zone coverage, able to let TJ in the slot and let Bernard play clean over the middle.

On O the Broncos have Mims. He will make a few plays - but we will smoke them silly by halftime.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

20 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

i don’t know. I really don’t want a first time playcaller for an OC. 

I'm not sure I do either. But, I don't know the guy ...so who knows

[boyst]

19 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

I wish people would stop throwing out guys like Aaron Quinn and Joe Marino and all that. They severely lack ball knowledge.

i don't mind listening to anyone espouse their opinion, i'll give anyone a chance

 

either of those two are no different than RoundyBout or Boyst, yano?

[Roundybout]

3 minutes ago, boyst said:

i don't mind listening to anyone espouse their opinion, i'll give anyone a chance

 

either of those two are no different than RoundyBout or Boyst, yano?

Eh, I don’t have 10,000 Twitter followers. Maybe you do, in which case more power to ya 

Edited 19 hours ago by Roundybout

[Einstein's Dog]

11 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

I don't think he'll be angling to leave whatever happens this season, or even next. There will come a time if the rings don't come though - especially if no Super Bowl win is forthcoming. I think the same can be said of Burrow and Jackson.

 

I agree McDermott won't be fired yet, whatever happens in the post season. Whether it is time to move on is up to personal debate. Some think a change might work, others are concerned it won't, which is fair.

I think one of the excellent aspects that Beane/McDermott have done is keep Josh happy.  To me, it looks like they have made it a priority and it shows.  I don't foresee Josh going anywhere for almost 10 years - as it should be.

 

I also don't see Jackson or Burrow going anywhere for a long time.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

23 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

It just kind of feels like Mahomes is bored unless it's Allen standing on the other side of the field from him.

Chiefs seem like they always have a few issues that they straighten out by the playoffs…they’re out there trying to set records/three peat etc but everything went sideways for them a bit based on oline play this year.  
 

 

 

[Kelly to Allen]

1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:

I agree his defense needs to show up. But that doesn't make it Marvin Lewis vibes

Neither did those other coaches lol

That makes your argument worse. 

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

So do the teams he’s losing to. The Josh Allen argument doesn’t work until he loses to a QB worse than Josh Allen.

 

McDermott haters should probably hope he loses to Denver. Losing to Baltimore or KC won’t change anything.

 

I don't hate McDermott. I actually prefer to keep him long term 

 

I just want his defense to be avg in the playoffs...

[Buffalo03]

2 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

That makes your argument worse. 

 

I don't hate McDermott. I actually prefer to keep him long term 

 

I just want his defense to be avg in the playoffs...

I get it

[Big Turk]

29 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

It really is an interesting situation…mcd isn’t beating the chiefs in the playoffs but nobody is. I could understand the other side of the argument more if other teams were having sustained success against the playoff chiefs and we weren’t but the only active head coach to beat the chiefs in the playoffs since mahomes took over is probably getting fired in the next couple years.  Heck one of the nfc coaches that snuck through and won the superbowl that time the chiefs lost just got fired from a second team since then 🤣

 

 The odds the new coach you bring in has more luck against the chiefs are pretty slim imo

Marvin Lewis never even won a first round playoff game in 7 tries, was 8-26 against the Steelers, and had back to back to back losing seasons when he was fired.  I don’t even understand the comparison.  

 

McD beats them regularly during the regular season and SHOULD have beat them once if not for a massive blunder at a key time and maybe even twice(last year) in the playoffs. 

 

But it doesn't count til you actually do it...and I think once he actually does it, the floodgates will open in terms of playoff success...kinda like Reid once he won his first SB after hearing how he could never do it.

[Magox]

The idea that McDermott is remotely close to any sort of a hot seat no matter what the outcome is delusional.

 

You may think he shouldn’t be the coach but he isn’t going anywhere.   He bleeds for the city, ownership trusts him, the players love him and he’s had lots of success.    Yes, I would love for him to be better in the playoffs and my hopes are that he will but he ain’t going anywhere.

 

Secondly, I think the Bills should do lots of blitzing, specially on first down.   Force him into some hurried throws early on and get them into lots of third downs.    They don’t have a particularly strong ground game and I think in order for Denver to put up a good offensive game they would need to be successful with their first downs and that is the downs to attack them.

 

They do lots of bootlegs, attack the QB with the ends on those plays that appear to be handing it off to the back.

 

Lots of exotic pressures throughout the game, force lots of third downs and with all the crowd noise it should lead to stops.

[Bray Wyatt]

4 minutes ago, Magox said:

The idea that McDermott is remotely close to any sort of a hot seat no matter what the outcome is delusional.

 

You may think he shouldn’t be the coach but he isn’t going anywhere.   He bleeds for the city, ownership trusts him, the players love him and he’s had lots of success.    Yes, I would love for him to be better in the playoffs and my hopes are that he will but he ain’t going anywhere.

 

Secondly, I think the Bills should do lots of blitzing, specially on first down.   Force him into some hurried throws early on and get them into lots of third downs.    They don’t have a particularly strong ground game and I think in order for Denver to put up a good offensive game they would need to be successful with their first downs and that is the downs to attack them.

 

They do lots of bootlegs, attack the QB with the ends on those plays that appear to be handing it off to the back.

 

Lots of exotic pressures throughout the game, force lots of third downs and with all the crowd noise it should lead to stops.

 

Also think they need to watch Bo Nix running on passing downs. He will run for first downs on 3rd. May need to implement a spy, or at least keep him in the pocket when it is collapsing.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

27 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:

Overall. this Bills team is better than Denver, probably more than just better. I don't think anyone can deny that.

 

Looking into the details, this Bills team is flawed, in particular, on defense, which is unlike what we had in recent years. I mean when everyone is healthy, this defense has issues unlike the previous years. So that means you have to look into matchups. Can the Broncos take advantage of Bills flaws to make a more even leveled game? 

 

I have not watched enough Broncos' game to make a meaningful case. On paper, it looks like strength against strength (Bills' O against Broncos' D) and weakness against weakness (Bills' D against Broncos' O). If one team wins on both sides, I'm fairly confident that team wins. If it is a mixed, it is going to be a nail biter and could come down to special teams. Regardless, I agree with Steve Tasker that Bills are going to get the best of Broncos because wildcard games usually mean the team worked hard to get in and had momentum, not necessarily mean they are going to win. Remember Josh Allen's first playoff game in Houston? The Bills need to be able to take the punch and then use the overall superior talent to overwhelming them. 

I could be crazy and this hopefully won’t be a jinx but this broncos defense has to be one of the more overrated groups I can remember in recent memory...to me they’re good but they get talked about in the elite conversation and I don’t really see it.  If the chiefs had anything to play for the broncos probably would’ve missed the playoffs giving up 30+ in 4 of their last 5 games with the only under 30 game being against horrendous Anthony Richardson. 
 

They’re definitely solid but they’ve got a couple weak links in the secondary that will get exposed hard by a pretty good oline/mobile qb that can actually hit throws.  It really doesn’t even feel like strength vs strength bills offense vs broncos defense to me.  they pretty much live or die by pass rush and have a bad matchup in that regard.  Only path to a broncos win I can see is Bo Nix playing flawless and winning a shootout 

[Big Turk]

10 minutes ago, Magox said:

The idea that McDermott is remotely close to any sort of a hot seat no matter what the outcome is delusional.

 

You may think he shouldn’t be the coach but he isn’t going anywhere.   He bleeds for the city, ownership trusts him, the players love him and he’s had lots of success.    Yes, I would love for him to be better in the playoffs and my hopes are that he will but he ain’t going anywhere.

 

Secondly, I think the Bills should do lots of blitzing, specially on first down.   Force him into some hurried throws early on and get them into lots of third downs.    They don’t have a particularly strong ground game and I think in order for Denver to put up a good offensive game they would need to be successful with their first downs and that is the downs to attack them.

 

They do lots of bootlegs, attack the QB with the ends on those plays that appear to be handing it off to the back.

 

Lots of exotic pressures throughout the game, force lots of third downs and with all the crowd noise it should lead to stops.

 

McDermott is going absolutely nowhere.

 

For coaches with 100+ games coached, McD is 2nd only to LaFleur in win percentage among active coaches and he has coached 31 more games.

 

The reason why it's important to go more than 4-5 years is because it eliminates coaches who have won with only one group of core players mainly and starts showing what happens when the team has to reload on the fly/shuttle aging vets and replace them with younger players.

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Big Turk

[bills742]

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by bills742

[mannc]

42 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

 

 

I'm taking them seriously, and Denver's D looks solid but the more I hear about Nix and the Broncos offense (from Denver journalists no less!) I feel more confident

 

-Minimal run game

- No big bodies TE for over the middle 

- Nix doesn't make bad decisions so much as he's still learning coverages

- Off with his deep ball, tends to overthrow

-Best route is a 12-15 dig to Sutton

 

This is probably jinxing us but this is the kind of offense McDermott built his scheme to hold in check. Disguised zone coverage, able to let TJ in the slot and let Bernard play clean over the middle.

Yeah, this is just not the kind of offense that has given us a lot of problems this season.  Denver’s going to need turnovers and a big special teams play or two to have a chance.

[Big Turk]

Sunday weather keeps improving...basically perfect football weather for this time of year.

 

Cloudy, 31 degrees and light winds 5-10 mph.  Weather will NOT play a factor in this it seems.

 

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, bills742 said:

 

Great news. Hope all is well with him and this personal matter. 

[Kelly to Allen]

5 minutes ago, Magox said:

The idea that McDermott is remotely close to any sort of a hot seat no matter what the outcome is delusional.

 

You may think he shouldn’t be the coach but he isn’t going anywhere.   He bleeds for the city, ownership trusts him, the players love him and he’s had lots of success.    Yes, I would love for him to be better in the playoffs and my hopes are that he will but he ain’t going anywhere.

 

Secondly, I think the Bills should do lots of blitzing, specially on first down.   Force him into some hurried throws early on and get them into lots of third downs.    They don’t have a particularly strong ground game and I think in order for Denver to put up a good offensive game they would need to be successful with their first downs and that is the downs to attack them.

 

They do lots of bootlegs, attack the QB with the ends on those plays that appear to be handing it off to the back.

 

Lots of exotic pressures throughout the game, force lots of third downs and with all the crowd noise it should lead to stops.

 

 

Everyone agrees with you on how ownership feels. He's not going anywhere even if we lose vs Denver and Bo nix looks like prime Marino 

 

But if that happens, in year 7 with Allen, I'm telling you that Josh Allen and the bills will never get to ,( not win), a super bowl. 

 

It will never happen with this coach. And with a big Ben, Elway level QB, that's more depressing than the Kelly super bowl years. 

 

To have this level of QB and your coach is that terrible in the playoffs on his side of the football is pure nihilism in a sports sense and fans will grow extremely bitter and cynical. Regardless of how Terry feels or whatever