Broncos at Bills Sunday 1pm (confirmed)

[Kelly to Allen]

1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:

It doesn't matter if he didn't have Allen or not, Marvin Lewis vibes is incorrect because the guy never won a playoff game in 7 tries and only made the playoffs in 7 of 16 seasons. Just stop with this "vibes" comparison. It's not right 

 

Andy Reid in Philly vibes? Yes

Tony Dungy in Tampa vibes? Yes

Marvin Lewis vibes? No, not even close. 

 

As soon as Andy Reid and dungy got Hof QBs, they went to multiple super bowls 

[mannc]

The bedwetters need to chill.  We couldn’t ask for a better first round matchup at home…rookie QB on a team that snuck into the playoffs on the last week of the season by beating the Chiefs’ taxi squad.  Of course the Broncos have their strengths, but they are not built to win a game like this.  Bills, 31-13.

[Scott7975]

39 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

Its crazy how clean he has played against us. 

No INT in the 3 games against us and 8 in the other 15 games.

9 TDs versus us 37 in the other 15. 

3 sacks for us 32 in the other 15. 

93 rushing yards against us 431 in the other 15.   

11 fumbles in the other games and none against us. 

I dont know what his rating would be without our games but hes 120+ in all of them and only 105 in total. 

 

just insane how much better he plays against us.  We need a pats perfect game to get rid of this trauma.  

 

Dang I didnt even realize it was that bad. I mean I knew but didnt. Ugh.

[Kelly to Allen]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

No other head coach has ever had Allen, yet have won more playoff games than Marvin Lewis. John Gruden won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson, Brian Billick won with Trent Dilfer, Lovie Smith got Rex Grossman to a Super Bowl. John Fox got Jake Delhomme to a Super Bowl. Stop with the "he didn't have Allen excuse" I just gave many examples of coaches that didn't have Allen that won multiple playoff games and Super Bowls without Allen. Lewis didn't do it in 7 tries

 

This makes your argument even worse. If those coaches got to a super bowl with the likes of rex Grossman and Jake delhomme, this makes McDermott even worse than incompetent. 

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said:

As soon as Andy Reid and dungy got Hof QBs, they went to multiple super bowls 

Where do you rank Matt Ryan? Was he better than Allen is? What about Matthew Stafford? Jared Goff? Nick Foles? These are all guys that have been to or won Super Bowls the last 10 years

[Johnnycage46]

So we basically have zero shot in this game? I am actually surprised, even for here, how down the outlook is.

[Kelly to Allen]

3 minutes ago, mannc said:

The bedwetters need to chill.  We couldn’t ask for a better first round matchup at home…rookie QB on a team that snuck into the playoffs on the last week of the season by beating the Chiefs’ taxi squad.  Of course the Broncos have their strengths, but they are not built to win a game like this.  Bills, 31-13.

 

 

Exactly. This is a rookie QB 

 

Any excuses by ppl in the media or cover 1 is just gaslighting. 

 

Buffalo should destroy this team in a home playoff game

Edited 20 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

This makes your argument even worse. If those coaches got to a super bowl with the likes of rex Grossman and Jake delhomme, this makes McDermott even worse than incompetent. 

No, it doesn't make my argument worse. This is an argument about you trying to put McDermott on Marvin Lewis level and me crushing the Marvin Lewis narrative. It's an argument against Marvin Lewis since you keep wanting to bring up that he didn't have Allen

[GolfandBills]

2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

So we basically have zero shot in this game? I am actually surprised, even for here, how down the outlook is.

People see the final result against chiefs backs up and think we are doomed… If they struggled against the Chiefs they’d be saying Bills will slaughter them.  People are just recency biased 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 hours ago, eball said:

 

The Ravens have so much more to lose this weekend…the Steelers are playing with house money.  I expect Tomlin to have them loose and ready to go.  Baltimore is clearly the better team but this is going to be a one score game in the 4th quarter and anything can happen.

 

agree. Going to be like a 23-20 game. 

[Kelly to Allen]

1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said:

Where do you rank Matt Ryan? Was he better than Allen is? What about Matthew Stafford? Jared Goff? Nick Foles? These are all guys that have been to or won Super Bowls the last 10 years

 

If Sean McDermott because of his defensive failing in the playoffs can't figure it out with a hof qb, dude I don't know what you want me to say. It's year 7 with Allen. 

 

His defense has to show up. It doesn't need to be the steel curtain defense of the 70s, but dude enough is enough 

[Scott7975]

5 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

 

Exactly. This is a rookie QB 

 

Any excuses by ppl in the media or cover 1 is just gaslighting. 

 

Buffalo should destroy this team in a home playoff game

 

I think the media is just doing it for rage clicks. A rookie qb hasnt won their first playoff game on the road since 2012 Russel Wilson. They have a good defense. So what? We have Josh Allen. If Josh Allen cant beat a middling team at home after the season we just had then this team has big issues. The Broncos are not the Ravens or KC which I can understand losing against. Its a middle of the road team that barely made the playoffs.

Edited 20 hours ago by Scott7975

[Kelly to Allen]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

No, it doesn't make my argument worse. This is an argument about you trying to put McDermott on Marvin Lewis level and me crushing the Marvin Lewis narrative. It's an argument against Marvin Lewis since you keep wanting to bring up that he didn't have Allen

 

Again Marvin Lewis didn't have a first ballot Hof QB. McDermott does 

[WotAGuy]

38 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Pet Peeve.

 

Defenses get Takeaways, Offenses commit turnovers.

 

This is like when people say points in baseball.

 

I only hear “turnover battle” and never “takeaway battle”.  😝

[nosejob]

3 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

If Sean McDermott because of his defensive failing in the playoffs can't figure it out with a hof qb, dude I don't know what you want me to say. It's year 7 with Allen. 

 

His defense has to show up. It doesn't need to be the steel curtain defense of the 70s, but dude enough is enough 

I can't help but think McD cost us 2 games. We should be the no.1 seed. It's getting old.  If this game is close,will he do something stupid? That's my biggest concern.

I'm praying somebody knocks out K.C.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Didn’t realize this, but Davis Webb is the QB Coach in Denver. Looks like he is getting credit for developing Bo Nix, and may be a HC candidate down the road.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/no-davis-webb-isnt-a-head-coaching-candidate-yet

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Didn’t realize this, but Davis Webb is the QB Coach in Denver. Looks like he is getting credit for developing Bo Nix, and may be a HC candidate down the road.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/no-davis-webb-isnt-a-head-coaching-candidate-yet

Or a replacement for Brady when he goes to NO

[PaattMaann]

35 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

Perfectly stated. It’s why McDermotts style has never made sense to pair with Josh. The whole point of having the best QB in the league is for him to have the ball and go to work. Not standing on the sidelines while your boring defense can’t rush the passer and continues to convert 3rd and longs to keep the ball away from you. Detroit has it figured out. Put pressure on the other team with your defense. If they give up a big play, that’s ok, your offense will get it back. More times than not, your agressive D will force the other QB to be uncomfortable and you’ll get the ball back to your offense. Instead McDermott is content with his boring defense  and having Josh sit on the sidelines for a while. That only forces pressure on Josh to be perfect when he gets the ball too. Would be nice to see a change before it’s too late. 

 

Flip side: The bend but don't break defense, who creates opportunistic turnovers, forces an offense to go and be really good and execute for 10+ plays every drive...knowing your offense is going to go get a touchdown with their possession. You are betting that your defense can get enough red zone stops and create a turnover or two to give extra possessions your top tiered offense. 

 

Sure, you could go about it in an over aggressively manner, but that only takes one big play from the offense to match your offense. Like it or not, the defensive philosophy is to force the offenses to continuously execute for 60 minutes. 

 

I would love to see us be more aggressive on 2nd and 3rd and long for sure though, instead of allowing teams to get into 3rd and shorts/manageable or convert against soft 3rd down looks. That is my one hope to see (and we have seen more aggressive calls and man coverage the last 5/6 weeks of the season) in the playoffs. 

[Billznut]

2 minutes ago, nosejob said:

I can't help but think McD cost us 2 games. We should be the no.1 seed. It's getting old.  If this game is close,will he do something stupid? That's my biggest concern.

I'm praying somebody knocks out K.C.

I’m hoping way more that Pittsburgh knocks off Baltimore this weekend. I think clearing out Baltimore makes our path easier than someone knocking off KC. But either one happening would be a big plus. 

[Buffalo03]

13 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

If Sean McDermott because of his defensive failing in the playoffs can't figure it out with a hof qb, dude I don't know what you want me to say. It's year 7 with Allen. 

 

His defense has to show up. It doesn't need to be the steel curtain defense of the 70s, but dude enough is enough 

I agree his defense needs to show up. But that doesn't make it Marvin Lewis vibes

12 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Again Marvin Lewis didn't have a first ballot Hof QB. McDermott does 

Neither did those other coaches lol