Beck Water Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM Class of 2018 has 4 QB starting in the playoffS, Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, and Jackson 1st, 3rd, 7th and 32nd pick In 2018, when this was a highly regarded QB draft class coming out, people would not have been surprised (though many might have picked the “wrong Josh” but In the intervening years, it certainly looked like pick #1 and #3 were busts 7 3 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted yesterday at 12:15 AM Posted yesterday at 12:15 AM (edited) 3 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Class of 2018 has 4 QB starting in the playoffS, Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, and Jackson 1st, 3rd, 7th and 32nd pick In 2018, when this was a highly regarded QB draft class coming out, people would not have been surprised (though many might have picked the “wrong Josh” but In the intervening years, it certainly looked like pick #1 and #3 were busts To me, the bigger shock is that the top 2 (Darnold and Baker) that were considered more pro ready and polished had to travel to a combined 8 teams to find success while the two looked at as largely flawed blossomed on their first team and have had the same HC their whole career. Oh and that at one time the Panthers had both Baker and Darnold and couldn't win with them. Says a lot about how important coaching can be. Edited yesterday at 12:16 AM by BuffaloBillyG 2 10 1 Quote
eSJayDee Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM For their rookie years, I think Mayfield looked the best & being the 1st overall was justified. Likewise, Darnold showed signs of talent though very much played "rookie like". Quote
GunnerBill Posted yesterday at 12:33 AM Posted yesterday at 12:33 AM I never thought Mayfield was a bust. I think, and always thought, the Browns made a mistake moving off him. Baker can play. He isn't a superstar but he is a good starting Quarterback. I have to say I did think Darnold was a bust. Not necessarily just after the Jets but after a promising start when he flamed out with Carolina I thought that was him done. Huge credit to him. He got his chance this year and he seized it. 4 1 Quote
BillsPride12 Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM This draft class is now looking very impressive. Will be remembered as an all-time QB class. Incredible we ended up with the best guy of the bunch Quote
HOUSE Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Josh Rosen will be back and you will all be very sorry 11 Quote
bmur66 Posted yesterday at 01:03 AM Posted yesterday at 01:03 AM The Jets set Darnold back a couple years. Quote
JohnNord Posted yesterday at 01:09 AM Posted yesterday at 01:09 AM 52 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Class of 2018 has 4 QB starting in the playoffS, Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, and Jackson 1st, 3rd, 7th and 32nd pick In 2018, when this was a highly regarded QB draft class coming out, people would not have been surprised (though many might have picked the “wrong Josh” but In the intervening years, it certainly looked like pick #1 and #3 were busts The narrative of this class has changed. Allen and Jackson had the most question marks pre-draft and ended up as the best out of this class. Baker and Darnold have gone from franchise QB to a QB bust back to franchise QB. And then there’s Josh Rosen who most Bills fans wanted that was a complete and utter bust. Assuming that Darnold sticks in Minnesota, overall this was a really strong QB class Quote
djp14150 Posted yesterday at 01:10 AM Posted yesterday at 01:10 AM challengers are …. 2020– Burrow, Tua, Hebert, Love in 1st round, Hurtz in 2nd 2024– Williams, Daniels, Maye, Penix, McCarthy, Nix 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted yesterday at 01:14 AM Posted yesterday at 01:14 AM 20 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Josh Rosen will be back and you will all be very sorry Yeah, the NFL will hire him and his Wharton MBA, to figure out new ways to gouge the average fan out of $ and hope. 🙁 1 Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted yesterday at 01:15 AM Posted yesterday at 01:15 AM 38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I never thought Mayfield was a bust. I think, and always thought, the Browns made a mistake moving off him. Baker can play. He isn't a superstar but he is a good starting Quarterback. I have to say I did think Darnold was a bust. Not necessarily just after the Jets but after a promising start when he flamed out with Carolina I thought that was him done. Huge credit to him. He got his chance this year and he seized it. Darnold had a lot of injuries during his time in both New Jersey & Carolina. This is his 1st fully healthy season as a starter. Quote
Don Otreply Posted yesterday at 01:23 AM Posted yesterday at 01:23 AM 19 minutes ago, bmur66 said: The Jets set Darnold back a couple years. The jets set everyone back a couple years, 1 Quote
MPL Posted yesterday at 01:32 AM Posted yesterday at 01:32 AM To this day, I still don't understand why Baker Mayfield isn't the Browns QB. 2 1 Quote
bobobonators Posted yesterday at 01:38 AM Posted yesterday at 01:38 AM 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: To me, the bigger shock is that the top 2 (Darnold and Baker) that were considered more pro ready and polished had to travel to a combined 8 teams to find success while the two looked at as largely flawed blossomed on their first team and have had the same HC their whole career. Oh and that at one time the Panthers had both Baker and Darnold and couldn't win with them. Says a lot about how important coaching can be. Coaching and GMs many times can make the difference. Quote
Drew21PA Posted yesterday at 01:47 AM Posted yesterday at 01:47 AM Knew Cleveland made a mistake letting Baker go dudes good - proud to say I knew he would be good - congrats Bake!!!! Quote
Seventeen Posted yesterday at 02:20 AM Posted yesterday at 02:20 AM 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: Josh Rosen will be back and you will all be very sorry Still have nightmares about the Broncos picking Josh and us stuck with Rosen. 1 Quote
LEBills Posted yesterday at 02:23 AM Posted yesterday at 02:23 AM Carolina had both Baker and Darnold on their roster at the same time lol Being a good QB is a combination of talent and being in a good organization Quote
Old Coot Posted yesterday at 03:30 AM Posted yesterday at 03:30 AM 3 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Oh and that at one time the Panthers had both Baker and Darnold and couldn't win with them. Says a lot about how important coaching can be. Sometimes a change of scenery can do wonders for your mental well-being; cf. Geno Smith and Goff, too Quote
eball Posted yesterday at 03:33 AM Posted yesterday at 03:33 AM 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I never thought Mayfield was a bust. I think, and always thought, the Browns made a mistake moving off him. Baker can play. He isn't a superstar but he is a good starting Quarterback. I have to say I did think Darnold was a bust. Not necessarily just after the Jets but after a promising start when he flamed out with Carolina I thought that was him done. Huge credit to him. He got his chance this year and he seized it. Darnold is still flawed. Holds the ball, feels the pressure. But he has played incredibly well this year and shown he can be coached. 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted yesterday at 04:01 AM Posted yesterday at 04:01 AM 2 hours ago, MPL said: To this day, I still don't understand why Baker Mayfield isn't the Browns QB. He was getting to the end of his deal and to move forward with him the Browns would need to commit some serious money. It was very similar to the Tua situation from my view. The concern being a commitment of franchise type money to him might be a huge mistake. To me it’s one of the worst situations for a team to be in. Miami paid, Dallas paid, did it work out? Meh…. He played hurt the year this was all going down and really declined. Which I imagine gave the Browns even more confidence in not investing franchise money. I think what they said to themselves was I would rather pay an excessive amount for being sure than what amounts to a franchise deal and not be sure. In theory I would agree with this approach, but the problem is you can rarely be certain. As many know they ended up missing completely and here we are. Baker is still the best Cleveland QB in several decades. He now gets to enjoy some nice weather and be with a professional franchise. Not a bad deal for him. 1 Quote
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