Black Monday...who gets canned?

[Wayne Cubed]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Even if you accept that as totally indicative all it says is he basically only does as well as his talent. I think Cincy are poorly coached on D most times I watch them and have done for a number of years. 

 

Lost to the Patriots at home to open this season and allowed a really poor Pittsburgh offense, in beginning of December, to produce more than 500 yards of offense. That same Pittsburgh team on a 4 game losing streak.

[RkFast]

Maybe Im nuts (OK, I AM nuts) but Id love Doug Pederson as the Bills OC if Brady walks to take a HC job.

 

Long time league OC/HC guy with a great resume who knows how to run an offense and an older (but not too old) guy who probably is not looking to jump into another HC gig...would probably be happy "settling down" with the Bills and coaching the offense for a long time.  

Edited Monday at 03:29 PM by RkFast

[RichRiderBills]

I think Zack Taylor is a poor coach, so yes scapegoat. 

[Big Turk]

4 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

Lost to the Patriots at home to open this season and allowed a really poor Pittsburgh offense, in beginning of December, to produce more than 500 yards of offense. That same Pittsburgh team on a 4 game losing streak.

 

That's more on Taylor, Burrow and the offense...they are typically brutal starting the year.  Burrow might be the worst week 1 QB in NFL history. They are typically trying to dig themselves out of a hole every year from the first month. Just becomes too much when injuries hit and you have other teams in the conference playing well.

Edited Monday at 03:28 PM by Big Turk

[stlbills13]

I actually prefer this. I think Lou is overrated but he finds ways to rise up in big occasions. But more importantly, my biggest fear was that they'd fire Taylor and the Bengals would hire Ben Johnson. 

[GunnerBill]

To be clear I don't think Anaroumo sucks. I just think he is an average DC with an inflated reputation based on one really good day in an AFCCG. If you want to call that clutch coaching, sure, it was. But having your best day on the biggest stage is something. It is not everything. 

6 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

I think Zack Taylor is a poor coach, so yes scapegoat. 

 

I think this as well though. 

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

I actually prefer this. I think Lou is overrated but he finds ways to rise up in big occasions. But more importantly, my biggest fear was that they'd fire Taylor and the Bengals would hire Ben Johnson. 

 

My biggest fear is they would hire Brady since he has a great relationship with Burrow and Chase already.

[thenorthremembers]

14 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Mayo is available as a bridge coach 

 

 

 

I have a feeling he is going to stay available for awhile.

[Low Positive]

Lou Anarumo's fan club consists almost entirely of Bills fans. 

[MikePJ76]

5 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

My biggest fear is they would hire Brady since he has a great relationship with Burrow and Chase already.

it costs a lot of money to fire a staff with years left and hire a whole new staff and pay the going rate for these young offensive minded head coaches.

 

The brown family does not do that.  I can't imagine they make any changes.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

51 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Everyone treats Ben Johnson as a slam dunk, but don't know that he is not a "milquetoast assistant." All we know about him is that he calls a good game and has produced an effective and balanced offense. We don't know how he is as a leader and CEO because Dan Campbell is so obviously the head of that show. Also, the fact that he keeps turning down offers is a red flag for me. He turned down Washington at the last minute, and that was a good opening. 

 

But in general, coaching candidates are either retreads or unproven assistants. There are no other options unless you want to take the risk of a college guy. 

 

Agree, everyone who argue for firing McD every year seems to forget that many more of these hot names fail than succeed.  Bills were actually lucky in that McD has done very well, they are the exception.  Of the retreads, the only one that has worked out was Reid.  Look at Pederson, won a SB, and since fired twice.

 

 

11 minutes ago, RkFast said:

Maybe Im nuts (OK, I AM nuts) but Id love Doug Pederson as the Bills OC if Brady walks to take a HC job.

 

Long time league OC/HC guy with a great resume who knows how to run an offense and an older (but not too old) guy who probably is not looking to jump into another HC gig...would probably be happy "settling down" with the Bills and coaching the offense for a long time.  

 

Well the number of openings seems to be dwindling as not as many expected firings. Giants and Miami not changing.  Don't think Brady is at the top of the list either.  Right now 4 openings I believe and the top names are Vrabel and likely Ben Johnson?? And to my first comment, Brady could just as easily be one of these names that fails as a HC.

[Wayne Cubed]

11 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

That's more on Taylor, Burrow and the offense...they are typically brutal starting the year.  Burrow might be the worst week 1 QB in NFL history. They are typically trying to dig themselves out of a hole every year from the first month. Just becomes too much when injuries hit and you have other teams in the conference playing well.

While that's true, they still went 0-3 to start the season and some of that does fall on Anarumo. 

[LarryMadman]

4 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Agree, everyone who argue for firing McD every year seems to forget that many more of these hot names fail than succeed.  Bills were actually lucky in that McD has done very well, they are the exception.  Of the retreads, the only one that has worked out was Reid.  Look at Pederson, won a SB, and since fired twice.

 

 

 

Well the number of openings seems to be dwindling as not as many expected firings. Giants and Miami not changing.  Don't think Brady is at the top of the list either.  Right now 4 openings I believe and the top names are Vrabel and likely Ben Johnson?? And to my first comment, Brady could just as easily be one of these names that fails as a HC.

Kind of a no brainer that Vrabel ends up in New England and thats going to suck because he is a good coach.

[fergie's ire]

51 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

If it was one random time , I would agree with you .

 

But he's slowed down Josh once, and Mahomes twice in the playoffs. It's hard to say that's a fluke.

 

Spagnulo has also had some seasons where he struggled during the regular season, but turns it on in the playoffs 

I don't know.  I think the Josh slow down was fluky.  It was in the snow and the Bengals players were even talking about how the Bills were running routes that don't work in the snow.  So, it wasn't so much as the Bengals defense as it was the Bills OC.

[C.Biscuit97]

Mayo fired after 4-13 with maybe the worst roster in the nfl and rookie qb. 
 

Daboll goes 3-14, his second straight losing season after barely making the playoffs with a $40 million qb. Makes sense. 

36 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Lou Anarumo's fan club consists almost entirely of Bills fans. 

Funny that you say that because one of my best friends loves that dude and we have no idea why. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

42 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

it costs a lot of money to fire a staff with years left and hire a whole new staff and pay the going rate for these young offensive minded head coaches.

 

The brown family does not do that.  I can't imagine they make any changes.

With Paul Brown, it was partly a matter of loyalty to staff.  With Mike Brown, it's departing staff returning every pen, pencil, spiral bound notebook, and any other tangible asset.  Those things cost money!

[Beast]

1 hour ago, stlbills13 said:

I actually prefer this. I think Lou is overrated but he finds ways to rise up in big occasions. But more importantly, my biggest fear was that they'd fire Taylor and the Bengals would hire Ben Johnson. 

Why would that be your fear? The Bengals already have a top offense. I would be more concerned if they brought in a coach that has a good defensive background.

Edited Monday at 04:36 PM by Beast

[Low Positive]

11 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

With Paul Brown, it was partly a matter of loyalty to staff.  With Mike Brown, it's departing staff returning every pen, pencil, spiral bound notebook, and any other tangible asset.  Those things cost money!

They don't have a weight room. What they have is half-priced Planet Fitness memberships. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

5 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

They don't have a weight room. What they have is half-priced Planet Fitness memberships. 

That deserves multiple awards.  Makes Ralph Wilson's team spending habits seem extravagant. 😁

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Edited Monday at 04:43 PM by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Low Positive]

Is it just me, or is this the least interesting Black Monday in years? No surprises yet.