Jeffbigalls Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:47 PM, Chaos said: as a bonus, the seeds of a QB controversy were planted. Expand Not at all Quote
dma0034 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:41 PM, Doc said: I'm not sure any team would have given up picks to move up in the draft to take Ward, much less Sanders. Expand You have the Giants, Browns, Titans, Saints and Jets that all need a QB in the top 10. Any one of those teams could but a package together for the 1st OA. Now the Titans will take a QB for sure and you have the Browns that may or may not trade. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:41 PM, Doc said: I'm not sure any team would have given up picks to move up in the draft to take Ward, much less Sanders. Expand teams like Cleveland and Vegas who need a QB Quote
djp14150 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:11 PM, JerseyBills said: This Win by NE cost them multiple 1st , 2nd and/or 3rd rd picks! That's factual. Love it! Brilliant by the Bills Expand I’d say that in most years. I don’t know if this draft is a special QB class worth trading up to pick one 1 Quote
zow2 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I was texting a couple buddies who are Pats fans. They wanted to lose desperately. I told the at halftime Milton cares too much, and may not have been the best choice to play. That's a game NE should have capped it at 6 or 7 points and not try to score after that. Really bad they didn't get the #1 overall. Good for the AFC East but they still could've gotten their guy and a bunch of extra picks. Quote
Doc Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:46 PM, Kirby Jackson said: No offense, but this would still hold true. According to the draft value chart, the difference in the 1st pick and 4th pick is the equivalent of the 12th pick. If I told you, “you have the option right now to give the Pats the 12th overall pick for nothing,” you wouldn’t do that. That’s the exact point regardless of their spotty draft history. They essentially gave up the value of the 12th pick in the draft and an early 4th by winning today. That’s a bad thing for them and a good thing for us. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp Expand If you meant a distant 2nd, meaning the best of 3 other bad teams, sure. Quote
Draconator Posted January 5 Posted January 5 The lead singer for my band is a huge Pats fan. Born and grew up in Boston. He said, "I can never root for my team to lose". I'd have to say he's in the minority. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:11 PM, JerseyBills said: This Win by NE cost them multiple 1st , 2nd and/or 3rd rd picks! That's factual. Love it! Brilliant by the Bills Expand Add to it, Cook ties the single season TD record from OJ, SAM Martin gets his bonus, Von gets his bonus on the 1st play if the game, and so on. I guess the whole McD narrative again is debunked. Fantastic. Cheats welcome to the suck for another 5 years. 1 1 Quote
Doc Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:49 PM, dma0034 said: You have the Giants, Browns, Titans, Saints and Jets that all need a QB in the top 10. Any one of those teams could but a package together for the 1st OA. Now the Titans will take a QB for sure and you have the Browns that may or may not trade. Expand On 1/5/2025 at 9:49 PM, Mr. WEO said: teams like Cleveland and Vegas who need a QB Expand In a draft with a consensus franchise QB, sure. This isn't one of those. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I wouldn't call it some sort of genius "masterclass". It's just a situation of the circumstances dictating a preferred outcome. He wasn't instructing people to not score or play less than. Our backups and 3rd stringers just couldn't get the win and that ended up being a good thing. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:52 PM, Doc said: If you meant a distant 2nd, meaning the best of 3 other bad teams, sure. Expand Not sure what you mean? I posted the draft value chart. Moving from 1 to 4 is the equivalent of the 12th pick. The last 4 guys picked 12 are: Bo Nix, Jahmyr Gibbs, Jameson Williams and Micah Parsons. Quote
Big Turk Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) "'Love The Drake said: I want to see the Buffalo locker room celebration.' they are laughing at us they just dropped the biggest ****block of the season and our coach says "you play to win" really, what a leader of men that tard is" 🤣🤣 Edited January 5 by Big Turk Quote
Aussie Joe Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:50 PM, djp14150 said: I’d say that in most years. I don’t know if this draft is a special QB class worth trading up to pick one Expand It only takes one team right to get desperate to move up …. Anyway … it’s a moot point now 😛 1 Quote
Doc Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:55 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Not sure what you mean? I posted the draft value chart. Moving from 1 to 4 is the equivalent of the 12th pick. The last 4 guys picked 12 are: Bo Nix, Jahmyr Gibbs, Jameson Williams and Micah Parsons. Expand I wasn't disputing that we should be happy they lost the 1st overall. I'm saying that even if they had it, their poor drafting would have still been a problem. Quote
Doc Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:55 PM, Big Turk said: "'Love The Drake said: I want to see the Buffalo locker room celebration.' they are laughing at us they just dropped the biggest ****block of the season and our coach says "you play to win" really, what a leader of men that tard is" 🤣🤣 Expand Jeremy2020 had it perfect: "The Bills were playing like a team that didn't want any injuries or to show anything to teams for the playoffs. Costing the Pats #1 OA was just a bonus. There is one person to blame that the Pats weren't playing like that as well and it's not on another team." Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:54 PM, Doc said: In a draft with a consensus franchise QB, sure. This isn't one of those. Expand you're saying they won't be drafted in the top 3? Quote
Don Otreply Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:54 PM, Doc said: In a draft with a consensus franchise QB, sure. This isn't one of those. Expand Doc, you vastly underestimate the Dumbassery of the average Billionaire team owner, Quote
RiotAct Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:12 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: The chefs kiss is reading the Pats message board right now. It's amazing. Spoiler alert....the fans are going through some stuff right now 😂😂😂 Expand poor babies. Quote
Doc Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:58 PM, Mr. WEO said: you're saying they won't be drafted in the top 3? Expand Top-3 yes. I was talking about giving up a lot of picks to move to 1 (with the Patriots) to take one. On 1/5/2025 at 10:01 PM, Don Otreply said: Doc, you vastly underestimate the Dumbassery of the average Billionaire team owner, Expand That's possible. But it's moot now. Quote
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/5/2025 at 9:11 PM, Big Turk said: Pats message board having a meltdown: Expand https://nesn.com/2025/01/fans-show-frustrations-on-social-media-after-patriots-defeat-bills/ Quote
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