Ken Dorsey fired by Browns

[JP51]

On 1/5/2025 at 8:58 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Fired twice in 2 years? Ouch.

Thats gonna leave a mark... looks like his next job will be Asst QB coach lol or a DII OC

[ddaryl]

On 1/5/2025 at 6:01 AM, RobbRiddick said:

I guess someone has to post this...

 

It was at this moment that I really started to scrutinize Dorsey's ability. If you cannot remain calm in the face of adversity then your not cut out for this job.

[hondo in seattle]

7 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

It was at this moment that I really started to scrutinize Dorsey's ability. If you cannot remain calm in the face of adversity then your not cut out for this job.

 

Agreed.   Some at the time said this was proof of Dorsey's passion to win.  As an ex-military guy, I had a different take that had to do with Dorsey's emotional maturity.  

 

If a military leader has a soldier injured or killed, they still needs to remain calm and analytical to carry out the mission.  There's no time for childish antics.  Venting and mourning are selfish luxuries for later.  As a leader, you owe it to your soldiers to fully dedicate all your intellectual, spiritual and emotional faculties to eventual success.  

 

The stakes aren't nearly as high in football so it should be easier for a football leader to keep his composure and focus on what needs to be done.   Dorsey's tantrums didn't reflect highly on him.  

[DapperCam]

I think Dorsey is a bad OC, but he’s 100% just a scape goat here. Stefanski can fire his assistants and buy another year.

[Livinginthepast]

The NFL is a league of 2nd and 3rd chances for Coaches who should have never gotten a first chance. 

[hondo in seattle]

12 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

I think Dorsey is a bad OC, but he’s 100% just a scape goat here. Stefanski can fire his assistants and buy another year.

 

Maybe you're right but we're all just guessing.  I've never met Stefanski and can't claim to read his mind or know his intentions. I acknowledge that it does seem odd when an offensive HC fires the OC who's running the HC's scheme.

 

But Dorsey's been fired twice in past 2 seasons.  Both offenses Dorsey was in charge of peformed better before Dorsey.  One of them performed better after Dorsey.  We'll wait and see about the other but the pattern we see so far isn't a good one for Dorsey.

 

I also beleive McD and Stefanski aren't morons.  They've earned HC positions partly because they make more good decisions than bad.  In the realm of football, they probably have above-average analytical skills.  And both agree that Dorsey isn't the OC they want.  

[GerstAusGosheim]

To think, not only did Sean give Dorsey, a rookie OC, the keys to the Josh/Diggs machine in their prime, he also kept him on for another half season after scoring 10 measly points against the Bengals. People talk about Sean's :13 blunder as his biggest mistake, but this one is up there.

[Low Positive]

1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Maybe you're right but we're all just guessing.  I've never met Stefanski and can't claim to read his mind or know his intentions. I acknowledge that it does seem odd when an offensive HC fires the OC who's running the HC's scheme.

 

But Dorsey's been fired twice in past 2 seasons.  Both offenses Dorsey was in charge of peformed better before Dorsey.  One of them performed better after Dorsey.  We'll wait and see about the other but the pattern we see so far isn't a good one for Dorsey.

 

I also beleive McD and Stefanski aren't morons.  They've earned HC positions partly because they make more good decisions than bad.  In the realm of football, they probably have above-average analytical skills.  And both agree that Dorsey isn't the OC they want.  

I don't know about McDermott, but Stefanski used Dorsey to save his job 100%. When it was clear that things were going south in Cleveland, Stefanski conveniently handed over playcalling to Dorsey just so he could fire him and save his job. That's obvious to everyone except Haslem.

[Blackbeard]

15 minutes ago, GerstAusGosheim said:

To think, not only did Sean give Dorsey, a rookie OC, the keys to the Josh/Diggs machine in their prime, he also kept him on for another half season after scoring 10 measly points against the Bengals. People talk about Sean's :13 blunder as his biggest mistake, but this one is up there.

Maybe list this in one of the gazillion Fire McD now threads. 
 

this thread is about Dorsey. 
 

 

[Sweats]

I never saw this coming................said no one ever.

[MrEpsYtown]

So did the Jets request a HC interview with Dorsey? 

[Low Positive]

9 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:

Maybe list this in one of the gazillion Fire McD now threads. 
 

this thread is about Dorsey. 
 

 

If you squint hard enough, every thread on TBD is a closed fire McDermott thread. 

 

In other Browns news, Deshawn Watson might miss next season due to a "setback" in his recovery. 

https://www.si.com/nfl/browns-reveal-deshaun-watsons-2025-season-in-jeopardy-after-injury-setback

Edited Monday at 05:37 PM by Low Positive

[RyanC883]

this now becomes a battle of what job is worse: Cle OC, or Jets HC.  Likely Cleveland OC given the likelihood of being their 3rd scapegoat in 3 years.  

[Dillenger4]

On 1/5/2025 at 8:58 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Fired twice in 2 years? Ouch.

Like... really OUCH.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 hours ago, Livinginthepast said:

The NFL is a league of 2nd and 3rd chances for Coaches who should have never gotten a first chance. 

Agreed.  Also, nepotism rears its ugly head.  Nathaniel Hackett.

[Billy Claude]

2 hours ago, Low Positive said:

If you squint hard enough, every thread on TBD is a closed fire McDermott thread. 

 

In other Browns news, Deshawn Watson might miss next season due to a "setback" in his recovery. 

https://www.si.com/nfl/browns-reveal-deshaun-watsons-2025-season-in-jeopardy-after-injury-setback

 

Seems pretty convenient, Browns would get 44.3M of cap relief in 2026 due to injury insurance, not to mention actual cash, if Watson can't play in 2025. 

 

Not that Jimmy Haslam would ever do anything dishonest like insurance fraud.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/browns-eligible-massive-insurance-relief-163727876.html#:~:text=The Browns had about %2414,%2444.3 million in insured relief.

Edited Monday at 08:17 PM by Billy Claude

[Low Positive]

21 minutes ago, Billy Claude said:

 

Seems pretty convenient, Browns would get 44.3M of cap relief in 2026 due to injury insurance, not to mention actual cash, if Watson can't play in 2025. 

 

Not that Jimmy Haslam would ever do anything dishonest like insurance fraud.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/browns-eligible-massive-insurance-relief-163727876.html#:~:text=The Browns had about %2414,%2444.3 million in insured relief.

Deshawn doesn't want to play and the Browns don't want him to play. It seems to have worked itself out. 

[Bruffalo]

The guy who looked mediocre with Josh Allen as his QB failed with Jameis Winston?

 

You're kidding me. Who could have seen that coming?

 

 

[Nihilarian]

What is funny is that as soon as Watson suffered a season-ending injury, Stephanski handed the play-calling duties over to Dorsey.

 

How can ya fire an HC who got Joe Flacco to take them to the playoffs? Coach of the year?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I never disliked Dorsey like a lot of people did.  I don’t think he ever ran his offense though, he basically just continued what Daboll built.