On the Lighter Side: Shady McCoy piece on something that made him go "hmmmm" about Pats

[SF Bills Fan]

Spagnoulo was D coordinator when the Giants beat the undefeated Pats in the Super Bowl and he said that they took lots of precautions knowing Pats would cheat. High security practices and multiple signal callers so Pats could not see what they were doing. Pats normally would steal teams signals so they knew when teams were blitzing etc. Pats were befuddled in that Super Bowl and could not cheat like normal and lost. 

[QLBillsFan]

7 hours ago, Beast said:

The Raiders used to cheat their asses off back inthe 70’s and 80’s. 

On the field not by stealing information…

[Billsfanatic8989]

7 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

The Patriots were like 14 point underdogs going into that game which tells you what Vegas thought about the matchup. and the fact they have been busted cheating numerous times would make one think it was entirely possible that the Patriots knew what they were doing

 

This is what makes me think they were cheating in this particular game.

 

14 point underdogs and that Rams offense only got into the red zone like three times the entire game. 

 

Do I think they win that game without cheating? No.

 

 

[TheFunPolice]

One SNF I heard Collinsworth say "we saw that in practice" after a trick play for the 50th time over the years and it hit me 

 

All it would take is a media or production guy spilling secrets.

 

Obviously the big name guys wouldn't risk it but there's a lot of people around and NE got caught filming practices so who knows what else they were up to 

 

What are the chances that everything they did to cheat was caught? 

 

Couple cheating with many terrible opposing coaches or "golly, it's an honor to lose to you guys!" Types and you have a dynasty. 

 

This is why I say Peyton is the GOAT. Going 3-1 in the AFC Championship game vs Brady and NE is incredible. 

 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 05:16 AM by TheFunPolice

[947]

I haven't watched the Pats/Rams Superbowl game since it aired. The Pats may have known what plays were being run due to cheating, but if I remember correctly, NE went into a Dime & flooded the zones. The Rams could have run the ball more & forced them to adjust, but Martz was too arrogant to change & thought his passing system could thrive vs anything. They had Marshall Faulk, so it probably would've worked. I saw an interview with Martz years back & he basically said the same thing.

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, Sojourner said:

Damn. This is like a year old, no?

 

I vividly remember seeing Shady on his podcast saying this ages ago. 

 

Maybe, I just saw it.  Apologies if there was a thread on it I couldn’t find.

[Mikie2times]

2 minutes ago, 947 said:

I haven't watched the Pats/Rams Superbowl game since it aired. The Pats may have known what plays were being run due to cheating, but if I remember correctly, NE went into a Dime & flooded the zones. The Rams could have run the ball more & forced them to adjust, but Martz was too arrogant to change & thought his passing system could thrive vs anything. They had Marshall Faulk, so it probably would've worked. I saw an interview with Martz years back & he basically said the same thing.

Not like BB ever executed that game plan in the Super Bowl before 

[Simon]

2 hours ago, stevewin said:

It's absolutely bizarre to me the sports world just ignores what cheating frauds Brady and Belichick were

 

[That's No Moon]

12 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

One SNF I heard Collinsworth say "we saw that in practice" after a trick play for the 50th time over the years and it hit me 

 

All it would take is a media or production guy spilling secrets.

 

Obviously the big name guys wouldn't risk it but there's a lot of people around and NE got caught filming practices so who knows what else they were up to 

 

What are the chances that everything they did to cheat was caught? 

 

Couple cheating with many terrible opposing coaches or "golly, it's an honor to lose to you guys!" Types and you have a dynasty. 

 

This is why I say Peyton is the GOAT. Going 3-1 in the AFC Championship game vs Brady and NE is incredible. 

 

 

 

The league told you everything you need to know when they destroyed the evidence.

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I don't think it's an accident that Bobby Rub N Tugs hasn't gotten a sniff of the HoF yet.

[Sojourner]

20 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Maybe, I just saw it.  Apologies if there was a thread on it I couldn’t find.

Nah dude. Not you. Just in general. I remember seeing this or something very similar from McCoy/Edelman on a podcast. 

[Bookie Man]

9 hours ago, T.E. said:

Still interesting how many offensive players from the 2001 Rams team still insist that New England seemingly knew the majority of their plays in Super Bowl 36.

Definitely. hmm makes me wonder if Belichick was up to his old tricks when he was Giants DC in SB XXV... 

[Nephilim17]

Kudos to Shady for saying this outright. Some players would still try to be friends with Brady and not say anything.

And yes, it's a very bad look for Brady and the Pats. Not evidence per se but anyone with a half a brain can infer that Brady is paranoid out of experience.

[MJS]

Edelman wouldn't have even known about most of the cheating, if any. Basically nobody did but Brady and the higher ups. I'm sure Brady didn't even know about all of it. Only Belichick and a few of his closest people.

[GETTOTHE50]

Patriots were so addicted to cheating, they even were video taping the bengals sideline when the bengals were awful. I don’t think they were even penalized for that.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/footage-of-patriots-filming-bengals-released-shows-tense-press-box-confrontation-between-the-two-sides/

 

[Since1981]

4 hours ago, MJS said:

Only Belichick and a few of his closest people.

Nefarious acts are usually successful only when very few people—say, 2 are in the know. For instance, if I commit a robbery alone, the chances of getting caught are low. Similarly, I can see how a Coordinator and 1 assistant could easily keep something hidden from both Tom and Bill, giving them complete deniability. They may suspect. A simple “wink, wink” with a suggestion like, “The DC/OC has a plan for this game,” could fly under the radar. Nobody would be the wiser, and nearly everyone involved would have plausible deniability.
 

And let’s not forget—there are tens of millions of dollars at stake here.

[BarleyNY]

Even the Browns overachieved under Belichick. Not much talent on it. No way was that a playoff team, but somehow its defense played surprisingly well and they made it in 1994 and even won a playoff game. I wonder how far back it goes. Parcells?

[SirAndrew]

I don’t condone the Pats cheating, but all these accusations seem like remarkably easy things to get away with. I’m surprised it isn’t more common. I’m no fan of the Pats dynasty, but the NFL didn’t care enough to have legitimate measures in place to prevent these things. Cheating is still cheating, but it sounds much too easy. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 hours ago, 947 said:

I haven't watched the Pats/Rams Superbowl game since it aired. The Pats may have known what plays were being run due to cheating, but if I remember correctly, NE went into a Dime & flooded the zones. The Rams could have run the ball more & forced them to adjust, but Martz was too arrogant to change & thought his passing system could thrive vs anything. They had Marshall Faulk, so it probably would've worked. I saw an interview with Martz years back & he basically said the same thing.

Rams offense moved the ball very easily they just turned it over a bunch of times including a pick six.  Could’ve been familiarity with the offensive plays leading to those 2 ints who knows. 
 

pats got outgained 427-265 and lost time of possession

[PromoTheRobot]

15 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I don’t disagree they cheated, but other teams may have also and we don’t know it.  It doesn’t matter as that evil empire is dead.  The rebellion won.

 

Any evidence of this? Or is it justification?

[chris heff]

Didn’t the Patriots have a guy on staff whose job was basically cheating?