Matt_In_NH Posted Saturday at 04:17 PM Posted Saturday at 04:17 PM There will be 2 elevations and 7 inactives Here are my guesses Elevations: Gore - might be Hamler Gouriage Inactives Bernard - Given, he is out Rousseau Oliver Cooper Dawkins Benford Taron Johnson 1 1 1 Quote
Gilberto Posted Saturday at 04:28 PM Posted Saturday at 04:28 PM Dang man, we're digging DEEP into possible threads for discussion now, Guessing PS elevations 🤣 I guess whatever you said 1 5 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Saturday at 04:30 PM Posted Saturday at 04:30 PM Taron needs a little time off to all heal the burns he has suffered the past month 1 3 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted Saturday at 04:36 PM Posted Saturday at 04:36 PM Excerpt from Joe Buscaglia's piece yesterday in "The Athletic:" The case for and against — practice squad elevations With the Bills wanting to look at some young players on their roster, here is a quick rundown of players they could consider. Remember, the Bills can only use two elevations for the game. QB Mike White — The Bills admitted that it will be difficult to call up White due to a roster crunch at other positions, but didn’t rule it out. RB Frank Gore Jr. — He had one call-up earlier in the season when James Cook was injured, but the team may want to get Ray Davis the bulk of the work. Cook also has some season-long markers the Bills may want to hit in the game. That takes Gore out of consideration. WR K.J. Hamler — Hamler is the only practice squad receiver with a call-up remaining, as the Bills elevated Jalen Virgil and Tyrell Shavers on three separate occasions, which is the maximum amount for the season. Hamler would get the call if the Bills want to rest Amari Cooper or Curtis Samuel can’t play. OL Will Clapp — Clapp spent 11 weeks on the active roster, and part of the benefits of calling up a player is that the player gets a 53-man roster salary for that weekend. The Bills may look elsewhere since he’s a veteran player and has gotten that level of compensation nearly quadruple the standard elevation limit. OL Richard Gouraige — Gouraige is an extremely compelling case for a standard elevation, as he could help the Bills give their entire starting offensive line the week off and also has the flexibility to play either guard or tackle. He would enhance their overall versatility should an injury occur to one of their four other backup offensive linemen. OL Mike Edwards — Edwards hasn’t been called up once this year, but it’s only his first year on the practice squad, and he is a guard only, which would probably give Gouraige the edge. Gouraige is in his second full year on the practice squad. DE Kingsley Jonathan — If the Bills want to give one of Dawuane Smoot, A.J. Epenesa or Von Miller some more rest, Jonathan would be one to consider this weekend. Jonathan is on the shortlist of those to call up. DE Casey Toohill — Like Jonathan, the Bills could consider Toohill for another option at defensive end. The only thing working against him is that, like Clapp, Toohill spent the first 15 weeks on the active roster, guaranteeing his full-year 53-man roster salary. LB/S Lewis Cine — Cine has one elevation remaining and is a very strong candidate to get called up this weekend. Not only does he give them versatility at two different positions, but they could use him on all phases of special teams to help lighten the workload of some others. CB Daequan Hardy — Hardy hasn’t been called up yet this season and could factor into cornerback this weekend. However, the Bills have a lot of healthy cornerbacks and a few different options to use on the 53-man roster already. S Kareem Jackson — Jackson is another consideration with one standard elevation remaining, though he may not have as much versatility to offer in this situation as Cine. He remains on the shortlist, however. S Micah Hyde — McDermott ruled out Hyde being called up this weekend against the Patriots. Projected practice squad elevations: OL Richard Gouraige, LB/S Lewis Cine It's behind a paywall: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6034094/2025/01/03/josh-allen-bills-patriots-starters-week-18/ 2 1 Quote
Mark Vader Posted Saturday at 04:42 PM Posted Saturday at 04:42 PM I'd like to see Lewis Cine get some meaningful playing time. 3 Quote
Sojourner Posted Saturday at 05:05 PM Posted Saturday at 05:05 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, Mark Vader said: I'd like to see Lewis Cine get some meaningful playing time. There’s a few in the practice squad that I’d like to see. Cine and the combination of his time at Georgia and a very recent first rounder that’s been given up on. The other guys are Logue, Hardy and Gore Jr. Edited Saturday at 10:28 PM by Sojourner 2 Quote
Beast Posted Saturday at 05:11 PM Posted Saturday at 05:11 PM (edited) I’m sure a WR will be one of the elevations. So I guess that would have to be Hamler. So my guess will be Hamler and Gore. Edited Saturday at 05:12 PM by Beast Quote
BillsDad51 Posted Saturday at 05:11 PM Posted Saturday at 05:11 PM 1 minute ago, Sojourner said: There’s a few in the practice squad that I’d like to see. Cine and the combination of his time at Georgia and a very recent first rounder that’s been given up on. The other guys are Logue, Hardy and Gore Jr. Shame you can only elevate up 2 per week. With Mike White getting one, out of those 4 names, I’m finding myself at Cine pretty much each time. White no longer on practice squad. Replaced Morrow on 53-man roster as of yesterday. Signed an extension. So there will be two callups from p-squad. 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted Saturday at 05:11 PM Posted Saturday at 05:11 PM 33 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Excerpt from Joe Buscaglia's piece yesterday in "The Athletic:" The case for and against — practice squad elevations With the Bills wanting to look at some young players on their roster, here is a quick rundown of players they could consider. Remember, the Bills can only use two elevations for the game. QB Mike White — The Bills admitted that it will be difficult to call up White due to a roster crunch at other positions, but didn’t rule it out. RB Frank Gore Jr. — He had one call-up earlier in the season when James Cook was injured, but the team may want to get Ray Davis the bulk of the work. Cook also has some season-long markers the Bills may want to hit in the game. That takes Gore out of consideration. WR K.J. Hamler — Hamler is the only practice squad receiver with a call-up remaining, as the Bills elevated Jalen Virgil and Tyrell Shavers on three separate occasions, which is the maximum amount for the season. Hamler would get the call if the Bills want to rest Amari Cooper or Curtis Samuel can’t play. OL Will Clapp — Clapp spent 11 weeks on the active roster, and part of the benefits of calling up a player is that the player gets a 53-man roster salary for that weekend. The Bills may look elsewhere since he’s a veteran player and has gotten that level of compensation nearly quadruple the standard elevation limit. OL Richard Gouraige — Gouraige is an extremely compelling case for a standard elevation, as he could help the Bills give their entire starting offensive line the week off and also has the flexibility to play either guard or tackle. He would enhance their overall versatility should an injury occur to one of their four other backup offensive linemen. OL Mike Edwards — Edwards hasn’t been called up once this year, but it’s only his first year on the practice squad, and he is a guard only, which would probably give Gouraige the edge. Gouraige is in his second full year on the practice squad. DE Kingsley Jonathan — If the Bills want to give one of Dawuane Smoot, A.J. Epenesa or Von Miller some more rest, Jonathan would be one to consider this weekend. Jonathan is on the shortlist of those to call up. DE Casey Toohill — Like Jonathan, the Bills could consider Toohill for another option at defensive end. The only thing working against him is that, like Clapp, Toohill spent the first 15 weeks on the active roster, guaranteeing his full-year 53-man roster salary. LB/S Lewis Cine — Cine has one elevation remaining and is a very strong candidate to get called up this weekend. Not only does he give them versatility at two different positions, but they could use him on all phases of special teams to help lighten the workload of some others. CB Daequan Hardy — Hardy hasn’t been called up yet this season and could factor into cornerback this weekend. However, the Bills have a lot of healthy cornerbacks and a few different options to use on the 53-man roster already. S Kareem Jackson — Jackson is another consideration with one standard elevation remaining, though he may not have as much versatility to offer in this situation as Cine. He remains on the shortlist, however. S Micah Hyde — McDermott ruled out Hyde being called up this weekend against the Patriots. Projected practice squad elevations: OL Richard Gouraige, LB/S Lewis Cine It's behind a paywall: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6034094/2025/01/03/josh-allen-bills-patriots-starters-week-18/ I read this article yesterday too and was also going to quote this. He makes sound arguments for and against everyone so do tend to agree with his choices, Gouraige and Cine. I think a good reason White was elevated to the 53 was to make him active on Sunday so Mitch doesn't play that much, maybe 1st half, to prevent injury there to him and if by some chance he did get hurt, can then bring White in rather than Allen 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted Saturday at 05:16 PM Posted Saturday at 05:16 PM 56 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: There will be 2 elevations and 7 inactives Here are my guesses Elevations: Gore - might be Hamler Gouriage Inactives Bernard - Given, he is out Rousseau Oliver Cooper Dawkins Benford Taron Johnson I would be really surprised not to see Shakir as inactive, given that he's been the Bills most productive receiver by far and that the Bills offense looked the most impotent in the Houston loss when Shakir was out. 1 Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted Saturday at 05:28 PM Posted Saturday at 05:28 PM 10 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I would be really surprised not to see Shakir as inactive, given that he's been the Bills most productive receiver by far and that the Bills offense looked the most impotent in the Houston loss when Shakir was out. I’m not sure that factors into tomorrow’s game whatsoever. I don’t think they give a crap whether they are productive on the field. I think they care whether they are healthy. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted Saturday at 05:28 PM Author Posted Saturday at 05:28 PM 1 hour ago, Gilberto said: Dang man, we're digging DEEP into possible threads for discussion now, Guessing PS elevations 🤣 I guess whatever you said I leave no stone unturned Quote
Beck Water Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM 45 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Excerpt from Joe Buscaglia's piece yesterday in "The Athletic:" The case for and against — practice squad elevations With the Bills wanting to look at some young players on their roster, here is a quick rundown of players they could consider. Remember, the Bills can only use two elevations for the game. QB Mike White — The Bills admitted that it will be difficult to call up White due to a roster crunch at other positions, but didn’t rule it out. RB Frank Gore Jr. — He had one call-up earlier in the season when James Cook was injured, but the team may want to get Ray Davis the bulk of the work. Cook also has some season-long markers the Bills may want to hit in the game. That takes Gore out of consideration. WR K.J. Hamler — Hamler is the only practice squad receiver with a call-up remaining, as the Bills elevated Jalen Virgil and Tyrell Shavers on three separate occasions, which is the maximum amount for the season. Hamler would get the call if the Bills want to rest Amari Cooper or Curtis Samuel can’t play. OL Will Clapp — Clapp spent 11 weeks on the active roster, and part of the benefits of calling up a player is that the player gets a 53-man roster salary for that weekend. The Bills may look elsewhere since he’s a veteran player and has gotten that level of compensation nearly quadruple the standard elevation limit. OL Richard Gouraige — Gouraige is an extremely compelling case for a standard elevation, as he could help the Bills give their entire starting offensive line the week off and also has the flexibility to play either guard or tackle. He would enhance their overall versatility should an injury occur to one of their four other backup offensive linemen. OL Mike Edwards — Edwards hasn’t been called up once this year, but it’s only his first year on the practice squad, and he is a guard only, which would probably give Gouraige the edge. Gouraige is in his second full year on the practice squad. DE Kingsley Jonathan — If the Bills want to give one of Dawuane Smoot, A.J. Epenesa or Von Miller some more rest, Jonathan would be one to consider this weekend. Jonathan is on the shortlist of those to call up. DE Casey Toohill — Like Jonathan, the Bills could consider Toohill for another option at defensive end. The only thing working against him is that, like Clapp, Toohill spent the first 15 weeks on the active roster, guaranteeing his full-year 53-man roster salary. LB/S Lewis Cine — Cine has one elevation remaining and is a very strong candidate to get called up this weekend. Not only does he give them versatility at two different positions, but they could use him on all phases of special teams to help lighten the workload of some others. CB Daequan Hardy — Hardy hasn’t been called up yet this season and could factor into cornerback this weekend. However, the Bills have a lot of healthy cornerbacks and a few different options to use on the 53-man roster already. S Kareem Jackson — Jackson is another consideration with one standard elevation remaining, though he may not have as much versatility to offer in this situation as Cine. He remains on the shortlist, however. S Micah Hyde — McDermott ruled out Hyde being called up this weekend against the Patriots. Projected practice squad elevations: OL Richard Gouraige, LB/S Lewis Cine It's behind a paywall: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6034094/2025/01/03/josh-allen-bills-patriots-starters-week-18/ Good article. Of course, the whole picture changed when the Bills cut Morrow and signed White to the active roster. I tend to agree with his conclusion that the Bills may want to look at Gouraige and Cine. Since Cine is kind of a tweener between LB and Safety, and is a physically talented guy (former 1st round pick for Minnesota, ran a 4.37 40) the Bills may regard him as a high ceiling/low floor reclamation project and may want to see how he's progressing. Draft profile for anyone interested 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM Obviously if there’s only 1 time for Hyde I hope it’s him. I really want to see the guy at least get a toe on the field in a season that might be the one. If we finally finish one…let’s give the guy his roses here and get In a game. Even if it’s mostly for appearances Quote
BearNorth Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM Posted Saturday at 05:29 PM if Josh is playing at least one snap, Spencer Brown is the only OL listed on the injury report, so he might sit like he did a few games ago and get replaced by Van Demark. McBeane will protect the franchise, the other starters will be in the game if Josh is. Quote
Beck Water Posted Saturday at 05:30 PM Posted Saturday at 05:30 PM (edited) 2 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: I’m not sure that factors into tomorrow’s game whatsoever. I don’t think they give a crap whether they are productive on the field. I think they care whether they are healthy. I think you may have misread what I wrote and missed a "not". "I would be really surprised NOT to see Shakir as inactive, given...." My point was above other receivers, the Bills likely want to bring Shakir into the playoffs healthy, so unless they want to give him a chance to meet some incentive in his contract, he likely sits. But he's still on his rookie deal, and rookies don't tend to have incentives as far as I know. Edited Saturday at 05:31 PM by Beck Water 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted Saturday at 05:31 PM Posted Saturday at 05:31 PM 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Obviously if there’s only 1 time for Hyde I hope it’s him. I really want to see the guy at least get a toe on the field in a season that might be the one. If we finally finish one…let’s give the guy his roses here and get In a game. Even if it’s mostly for appearances The other guys will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe McDermott clearly stated that Hyde will not dress for this game. 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted Saturday at 05:31 PM Posted Saturday at 05:31 PM (edited) 4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Obviously if there’s only 1 time for Hyde I hope it’s him. I really want to see the guy at least get a toe on the field in a season that might be the one. If we finally finish one…let’s give the guy his roses here and get In a game. Even if it’s mostly for appearances McDermott has unambiguously said that Hyde will not be seen in the game: "you can see him on the sideline" 2 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: The other guys will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe McDermott clearly stated that Hyde will not dress for this game. You are right! 4 minutes ago, BearNorth said: if Josh is playing at least one snap, Spencer Brown is the only OL listed on the injury report, so he might sit like he did a few games ago and get replaced by Van Demark. McBeane will protect the franchise, the other starters will be in the game if Josh is. I dunno. The other question is, if they're in the game, for how long? Edited Saturday at 05:33 PM by Beck Water 1 Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted Saturday at 05:34 PM Posted Saturday at 05:34 PM 4 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Obviously if there’s only 1 time for Hyde I hope it’s him. I really want to see the guy at least get a toe on the field in a season that might be the one. If we finally finish one…let’s give the guy his roses here and get In a game. Even if it’s mostly for appearances For sure, this is the biggest one I'm hoping for. Also, great username. 1 Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted Saturday at 05:36 PM Posted Saturday at 05:36 PM 6 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I think you may have misread what I wrote and missed a "not". "I would be really surprised NOT to see Shakir as inactive, given...." My point was above other receivers, the Bills likely want to bring Shakir into the playoffs healthy, so unless they want to give him a chance to meet some incentive in his contract, he likely sits. But he's still on his rookie deal, and rookies don't tend to have incentives as far as I know. Apologies. We are on the same page, I just turned it too late. Quote
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