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3 minutes ago, T.E. said:

And the team they played in that Super Bowl was his roster in Oakland. Tony Dungy never got that team over the hump, and he did. Winning a SB is not easy - no coach in our history ever has, as we all know.

Sure, but that was 22 years ago. Is he still capable of doing that? They had a losing season after they won the Super Bowl He was out of football for 10 years and then lead a mediocre team for 3.5 years. Thats his most recent example, and probably a better indicator of who he is as a coach.

 

He has a .511 all time coaching record  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GrudJo0.htm

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Vrabel is the best available coach.  I don't think it’s very close.  Bad run teams will be intimidated by him and likely find a reason to not hire him.  Give the man a qb and look out imo. 

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1 hour ago, ganesh said:

Vrabel in some sense is like McDermott.  He has struggled to get his team over the top...Always solid and very good in the regular season...they could beat any team..but then always choked in the playoffs (2-3 record)

With zero real talent. 

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Just now, Dillenger4 said:

Vrabel is linked to an interview with the NYG too. That makes sense to me as they will be drafting high (top 5).

 

Here in the NYC area the media is saying that Mara will sit down with Schoen and Daboll early next week and listen to what they have to say in how they intend to rebuild the Giants. Then he will make a decision after those conversations. It's not a done deal that he cleans house like the Jets are going to do.

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31 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

What crazy team would do that?!?

 

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Yeah I remember when the Bills did it and the local new hire ball-washers claimed the Bills were ahead of the curve for doing it and that it would be the trend around the league.    In that process, desperately needing a franchise QB, they traded away the pick that was used for maybe the GOAT QB and their own future oppressor,  let the soon-to-be NFLDPOY walk without a franchise tag etc..   If Josh Allen had gone #1 overall,  where he had at times been projected in the year prior,  then who knows how many HC's and GM's the Bills would have had since then. :lol:

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1 hour ago, ganesh said:

Vrabel in some sense is like McDermott.  He has struggled to get his team over the top...Always solid and very good in the regular season...they could beat any team..but then always choked in the playoffs (2-3 record)

 

Not at all the same, not on the same level with McDermott who has a much higher career winning percentage and for all his faults has never had a down year.

Vrabel gets a ton of credit for getting a #1 seed with Ryan Tannehill.

That's great, but let's remember he had an incredible RB in his prime, a top 5 WR, and an excellent defense while playing in the AFC South. Tannehill was a top 12-15 QB at the time. It is not like Vrabel was adding anything schematically to that offense. Once Arthur Smith left and injuries hit his offense it was a bad team.

 

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2 hours ago, Einstein said:

I’d very much prefer they don’t hire him.

 

Every coach had faults and he is not immune to that, but his teams were always physical and played hard. 


Agreed - I think he’s a pretty good coach.  He’s a better “leader of men” that Saleh and just as good - if not better - defensively.

 

I know in Tennessee he known for being conservative and relying on a ground-and-pound offense.  

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24 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

It seems everything fell apart because of the inexcusable AJ Brown trade and their bad luck with the their LT’s surgery.  Doesn’t seem either was Vrabel’s fault. 


They also were in “QB Purgatory” or sort with Ryan Tannehill.  He had a few good seasons passing the ball built around play action.  But there were limitations and once you start removing some of the piece like Brown - things fell apart. 

 

I thought Vrabel did a decent job in 2023.   That team was really bad talent-wise but still got some big wins against Miami and Jacksonville down the stretch.   We saw this season that no team is going to be able to do anything with Will Levis as its franchise QB. 

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2 hours ago, Einstein said:

I’d very much prefer they don’t hire him.

 

Every coach had faults and he is not immune to that, but his teams were always physical and played hard. 

 

Completely agree. I don't want him in division. 

 

Though I'd rather he go there instead of the Pats. A better chance to fail within the Jet organization. 

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27 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Yeah I remember when the Bills did it and the local new hire ball-washers claimed the Bills were ahead of the curve for doing it and that it would be the trend around the league.    In that process, desperately needing a franchise QB, they traded away the pick that was used for maybe the GOAT QB and their own future oppressor,  let the soon-to-be NFLDPOY walk without a franchise tag etc..   If Josh Allen had gone #1 overall,  where he had at times been projected in the year prior,  then who knows how many HC's and GM's the Bills would have had since then. :lol:

You just had to rip off that band-aid. 🥲

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3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

How is Vrabel going to feel when Brick Johnson starts handing out gameballs in the locker room?

That wouldn't happen. Salah had zero control over the Jets locker room. Remember when the Jets benched Zach Wilson, who struggled with confidence, and Jets players showed up to a game in Minnesota in Mike White t-shirts? Nobody paid any consequences for that. The Jets even put it out on their own social media channel. That's an organization with no adults in charge. Vrabel fixes that. 

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2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Jon Gruden is also a serious candidate for the Jets and multiple teams.  He’s gonna be back this year or next.

 

Please let them hire Gruden. He's track record is nowhere near what people think it is.. he rarely had a top offense and had more bottom offenses than he did top ones. He missed the playoffs way more than he made them. His rolodex of competent coaches is pretty small these days. It would be beautiful.

 

If the Jets want Vrabel, they need to 'not let him out of the building'. I think if he goes off to talk to other teams, their chance of getting him is extremely low.

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