Bernard injury history

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, colin said:

 

Milano was out for most of the season last year, and so was Jones.  

 

That is correct  - but Bernard looked best the first 4.x games when he was playing next to Milano.  And Dorian Williams was not playing LB very much last year.  They started him the next game after Jax in place of Milano and quickly said "nope, not gonna work".  They tried various combinations and settled pretty quickly on the Dodson/Poyer platoon (Rapp backfilled at safety when Poyer moved up)
 

At DT they were playing some combination of Jordan Phillips out of position, Tim Settle, Poona Ford then Linval Joseph, and some other guys. 

This season, Tim Settle seems to be playing pretty well for Houston - started every week since Game 7. 
Poona Ford has started every game at DT for the Chargers who seem to have the best defense in the league on points and #12 for yards so, better than ours.
Linval Joseph has been seeing regular snaps at DT for Dallas.

Anyway.  Bottom line, yes the DTs and the LB next to Bernard were both different last season.

 

4 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Where was Jones taken? 

 

Top of the 2nd round

Edited Friday at 07:50 PM by Beck Water

[Mikie2times]

7 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

That is correct  - but Bernard looked best the first 4.x games when he was playing next to Milano.  And Dorian Williams was not playing LB very much last year.  They started him the next game after Jax in place of Milano and quickly said "nope, not gonna work".  They tried various combinations and settled pretty quickly on the Dodson/Poyer platoon (Rapp backfilled at safety when Poyer moved up)
 

At DT they were playing some combination of Jordan Phillips out of position, Tim Settle, Poona Ford then Linval Joseph, and some other guys. 

This season, Tim Settle seems to be playing pretty well for Houston - started every week since Game 7. 
Poona Ford has started every game at DT for the Chargers who seem to have the best defense in the league on points and #12 for yards so, better than ours.
Linval Joseph has been seeing regular snaps at DT for Dallas.

Anyway.  Bottom line, yes the DTs and the LB next to Bernard were both different last season.

 

 

Top of the 2nd round

I thought Linval Joseph did well here. 

[DCofNC]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

That is correct  - but Bernard looked best the first 4.x games when he was playing next to Milano.  And Dorian Williams was not playing LB very much last year.  They started him the next game after Jax in place of Milano and quickly said "nope, not gonna work".  They tried various combinations and settled pretty quickly on the Dodson/Poyer platoon (Rapp backfilled at safety when Poyer moved up)
 

At DT they were playing some combination of Jordan Phillips out of position, Tim Settle, Poona Ford then Linval Joseph, and some other guys. 

This season, Tim Settle seems to be playing pretty well for Houston - started every week since Game 7. 
Poona Ford has started every game at DT for the Chargers who seem to have the best defense in the league on points and #12 for yards so, better than ours.
Linval Joseph has been seeing regular snaps at DT for Dallas.

Anyway.  Bottom line, yes the DTs and the LB next to Bernard were both different last season.

 

 

Top of the 2nd round

Oh weird, Jones was taken in the second, but it’s impossible to find impact players late in the first for Buffalo.. hmm.🤔 Well it’s not like you can’t stop both draft a Nick Bolton in the second.. wait no..  

 

Also very strange that all the DTs that couldn’t get on the field in Buffalo have managed to recapture starting roles elsewhere and play well, yet the DTs here can’t make an impact.. in all seriousness, WTF?  Is it playing next to Oliver that’s making them ineffective? 

[MiracleAtRich1393]

14 hours ago, ghostwriter said:

He needs a moose at NT and he’ll be fine.

Draft 2 320+ lb'ers with our three top 64 picks plzzzz!

[Beck Water]

7 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

I thought Linval Joseph did well here. 

 

He did.  He did well enough to make Poona Ford inactive, and Poona has been starting elsewhere.  Oliver also seemed to be playing better next to 1) early season DaQuan, who was a BEAST and 2) later season Linval/Phillips.  But I also think he fell off towards the end of the season (he's 36) which is likely why the Bills moved on.

 

[PBF81]

On 1/3/2025 at 8:30 AM, WotAGuy said:

There’s a lot of luck involved, and if this D doesn’t lead in turnovers, it’s toast. Then we’re back to Josh being Superman every drive. 
 

They need major improvements in personnel on the D-line and LB. 

 

In the three games in which we didn't lead in TO margin, we were equal, we got killed (Balt) and beat two incredibly mediocre teams in one possession wins with both games going down to the wire.

 

The teams that we're likely to face in the playoffs are generally top-10 offensively in avoiding TOs. 

 

It is relevant, the extent to which can be argued.  But in other seasons throughout our history it's also been the case.  I used to point it out and it was always a factor since in the playoffs teams that advance typically don't turn the ball over as much 

[T master]

21 hours ago, warrior9 said:

Not really sure why that matters, he wasn't on our team this year and he wasn't last year. Bringing up past players accomplishes nothing. 

 

Edmonds catching a stray in this thread is just weird. 

 

Seeing that Bernards production has dwarfed that of Edmunds even though he has had injury's one would think that the complaining about his injury would be less but as usual there are those in this fan base that no matter what a player or coach may do for the team it's never good enough and they want to move on .

 

That being said if you care to which you don't by your reply but the Chicago fans are ready to kick Edmunds out and they are paying quadruple the amount for less than a quarter of the production , last season & this season . 

 

And the relevance of me brining up Edmunds is that Bernard is the one that took Edmunds place and position . But you don't care so it's all good .

[BearNorth]

Tyleik Williams - Ohio State DI should be available bottom of the first round.  6-3 327

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, PBF81 said:

 

In the three games in which we didn't lead in TO margin, we were equal, we got killed (Balt) and beat two incredibly mediocre teams in one possession wins with both games going down to the wire.

 

The teams that we're likely to face in the playoffs are generally top-10 offensively in avoiding TOs. 

 

It is relevant, the extent to which can be argued.  But in other seasons throughout our history it's also been the case.  I used to point it out and it was always a factor since in the playoffs teams that advance typically don't turn the ball over as much 

Oh there you are!!!  Bills are 13-3 and I haven’t noticed you post all season.  Surprising!

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Oh there you are!!!  Bills are 13-3 and I haven’t noticed you post all season.  Surprising!

He's over on the Random Talking Head thread a week ago stating that McDermott is a liability in the playoffs in the guise of a question.

I looked for ya.  He's been here.  May have been on "vacation" a couple times since he made cracks about "be careful or you might be Simonized"

 

It likely won't surprise you that his posting peaks have surrounded the Bills losses or close games that were not predicted to be close - 47 posts the week after the Bills loss to Houston; 27 posts the week after the Dolphins game that was tied in the 4Q and won with a FG with 5 seconds left.

 

You might not notice him as much because a lot of posters have him on "ignore" or just know better than to engage with His Trollish Self.

Edited Saturday at 05:10 PM by Beck Water

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, Beck Water said:

He's over on the Random Talking Head thread a week ago stating that McDermott is a liability in the playoffs in the guise of a question.

I looked for ya.  He's been here.  May have been on "vacation" a couple times since he made cracks about "be careful or you might be Simonized"

 

It likely won't surprise you that his posting peaks have surrounded the Bills losses or close games that were not predicted to be close - 47 posts the week after the Bills loss to Houston; 27 posts the week after the Dolphins game that was tied in the 4Q and won with a FG with 5 seconds left.

 

You might not notice him as much because a lot of posters have him on "ignore" or just know better than to engage with His Trollish Self.

🤣 this is gold-  thank you for sharing.  Misery loves company-  little does he know, he can’t bring everyone with him. 

[PBF81]

46 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Cubs went over 100 years without a championship and were beloved. Win or lose I am a Bills fan.  But I am not really satisfied with having them be post-season lovable losers each year.  I think its fair to aspire to more. 

 

I've never questioned anyone posting here as not being a Bills fan, unlike some.  We're all Bills fans despite some claiming that others aren't, which is childish.  

 

But when the particulars of the team cannot even be discussed or criticized without personal condescension it makes its own statement.  

 

Let's see what this postseason brings us, we're ALL hoping, but if we can't get it done during the Allen-era, it seems pretty unlikely that many of us will ever see one while we're alive, which would be horribly tragic.  

 

 

Edited Saturday at 11:37 PM by PBF81

[NewEra]

49 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

I've never questioned anyone posting here as not being a Bills fan, unlike some.  We're all Bills fans despite some claiming that others aren't, which is childish.  

 

But when the particulars of the team cannot even be discussed or criticized without personal condescension it makes its own statement.  

 

Let's see what this postseason brings us, we're ALL hoping, but if we can't get it done during the Allen-era, it seems pretty unlikely that many of us will ever see one while we're alive, which would be horribly tragic.  

 

 

Criticize all you want.  But when that’s all you do….and rarely, if ever post anything positive, you’re most likely going to be seen by those that are here regularly as a tool.  I criticize things when I see things that should be criticized.  Then I usually stop because I’ve said my peace and have moved on as as an adult, I’ve realized that harping on negative aspects of your life (or football team) brings nothing but negativity-  and who has time for that?  Yes.  You do.  Enjoy it.  

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

Cubs went over 100 years without a championship and were beloved. Win or lose I am a Bills fan.  But I am not really satisfied with having them be post-season lovable losers each year.  I think its fair to aspire to more. 

 

I think all of us aspire to more. 

But there's aspiring to more, and regretting the losses while trying to take an open-minded approach to what happened and what the Bills need to get over the hump, vs.
being a Johnny One Note Campaigner against the coach and a total negger ('when any player besides Allen steps up in the playoffs" "I don't care about 13-3" etc etc)

 

 

[Simon]

3 hours ago, PBF81 said:

For some people (you and @Beck Water) apparently, the standard is the regular season.  That's you prerogative and that's fine, I have no issue with it.  I'm not going to condescend to you on a personal level because of it however.  

 

So you're going to be condescending to folks while you're telling them you won't be condescending?

I can't imagine why you keep having problems here.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

On 1/3/2025 at 9:14 AM, Beck Water said:

 

Tape matters

Lots of it, and Ace bandages, too. 😁

*

Maybe he should stop punching walls? 🤔

[DJB]

I can admit I was wrong about Brown. I definitely bashed him previously as he looked like Swiss cheese out there and was awful

 

Incredible turnaround for him 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

Smaller man playing a bigger mans position leads to injuries. Add the fact that the DL isn’t the best at keeping the second level clean, and this isn’t a real surprise 

[Dopey]

On 1/3/2025 at 11:14 AM, WotAGuy said:

You can’t tell me the Bills’ turnover record this year is “a plan”. Every team has that same “plan”. The fact Allen is the only player with a turnover and the defense is getting so many is a LOT of luck. They are making the most of their opportunities and that’s due to good coaching and execution. But the turnover advantage is a lot of luck or else they would have the same turnover record every year. 
 

 

He can tell you. You just don’t have to listen. You would be missing out on reality if you didn’t listen though. 
Bills turnovers created stats, according to ESPN:

2020: 26  takeaways tied for 3rd in the entire league. 
2021: 30 takeaways tied for 3rd in the entire league. 
2022: 27  takeaways tied for 3rd in the entire league. 
2023: 30 takeaways tied for 2nd in the entire league. 
2024: 31 takeaways tied for 2nd in the entire league, with 1 more game to play. 
 

Looks like a plan to me. Pretty consistent. By your logic, I guess we are just consistently lucky. Year, after year, after year, after year, after year. 😂😂

I know you wrote we would have the same turnover record every year, but I know you don’t believe that to be the case. Getting the exact same number?!? Come on, now. 
So, again, either you are correct and we’re just lucky, 5 years in a row or our plan is to create turnovers at a higher rate than the average NFL team. 
By the way, in McBeane’s first season together (2018)we were tied for 6th in the entire league with 27. A little drop off in 2019 at 23 takeaways, but still at 9th in the entire league, while rebuilding the crap team we were prior to their arrival. 

Just to add to this, in McD’s first season with us (2017), we were tied for 8th in the entire league. At least top 10 in the entire league his entire career here. Definitely planned. 😂😂

[WotAGuy]

1 hour ago, Dopey said:

He can tell you. You just don’t have to listen. You would be missing out on reality if you didn’t listen though. 
Bills turnovers created stats, according to ESPN:

2020: 26  takeaways tied for 3rd in the entire league. 
2021: 30 takeaways tied for 3rd in the entire league. 
2022: 27  takeaways tied for 3rd in the entire league. 
2023: 30 takeaways tied for 2nd in the entire league. 
2024: 31 takeaways tied for 2nd in the entire league, with 1 more game to play. 
 

Looks like a plan to me. Pretty consistent. By your logic, I guess we are just consistently lucky. Year, after year, after year, after year, after year. 😂😂

I know you wrote we would have the same turnover record every year, but I know you don’t believe that to be the case. Getting the exact same number?!? Come on, now. 
So, again, either you are correct and we’re just lucky, 5 years in a row or our plan is to create turnovers at a higher rate than the average NFL team. 
By the way, in McBeane’s first season together (2018)we were tied for 6th in the entire league with 27. A little drop off in 2019 at 23 takeaways, but still at 9th in the entire league, while rebuilding the crap team we were prior to their arrival. 

Just to add to this, in McD’s first season with us (2017), we were tied for 8th in the entire league. At least top 10 in the entire league his entire career here. Definitely planned. 😂😂

I stand corrected. @ProcessTruster

That is amazing and thank you @Dopey for doing the work to pull the numbers. 
 

 

Edited Sunday at 03:44 PM by WotAGuy