Bernard injury history

[stlbills13]

I feel a lot better about Bernard chasing down Kelce at Arrowhead in late January than I felt about AJ Klein at home last year. So that helps. 

 

Bernard is fine. If Derrick Henry is hitting the 2nd level against Bernard, I don't love our chances. McD is going to have to change his philosophy for a game like that. But Bernard is a solid enough player. If he gets an Edmunds longterm deal, I'll definitely pass. But if he can be had on a cheaper deal I'm definitely interested. But in general I just kind of like the idea of drafting a LB in the mid rounds every year and having them develop, move on, rinse, repeat. 

[Don Otreply]

9 hours ago, Rubes said:

Sir, this is a Wendy’s….

 

Made my morning! Thank you 🤣

[Big Blitz]

Look who just magically keeps getting healthier come January 

 

Its us or them no one else has a chance 

 

 

[DCofNC]

1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said:

but this D does lead in turnovers, thats the point.  its a point of emphasis, not just "hope we get some" ; its a way of playing.  One turnover is worth 2 punts.   Protect the ball on offense, turn them over on defense.  Its not luck, its a strategy, an approach.   

 

Fanbase needs to get over "Chris Jones" syndrome.   there are like 5 guys of that type in the entire league (Vea, Simmons, a couple others) and that is it and they are locked up.    Sure Beane will go back to the draft to get one, but drafting in the 30's ain't getting that done.    

 

What the Bills do is an alternative to having a Chris Jones and it is working.  

Where was Jones taken? 

[Mikie2times]

3 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

i think we've kind of worn out this topic. 

 

They're playing the attacking, penetrating style of defense that fits the personnel they have and the offense they have. 

 

Is what it is.  I'd rather this than Reggie Ragland three steps behind RBs and Kelce every down.   You need to make a choice.   

 

As long as Josh lights 'em up on offense (and 9 out of 10 times he does) , this D scheme works just fine.  

He had Luke Kuechly in Carolina and then went on to spend a premium asset on Edwards. He doesn't want Reggie Ragland and I don't think he wants Bernard either. He wants a physical freak and is willing to invest to get it. We just had so many priorities this offseason and likely next as well, I'm not sure we can afford to go that direction. 

[WotAGuy]

1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said:

but this D does lead in turnovers, thats the point.  its a point of emphasis, not just "hope we get some" ; its a way of playing.  One turnover is worth 2 punts.   Protect the ball on offense, turn them over on defense.  Its not luck, its a strategy, an approach.   

 

Fanbase needs to get over "Chris Jones" syndrome.   there are like 5 guys of that type in the entire league (Vea, Simmons, a couple others) and that is it and they are locked up.    Sure Beane will go back to the draft to get one, but drafting in the 30's ain't getting that done.    

 

What the Bills do is an alternative to having a Chris Jones and it is working.  

You can’t tell me the Bills’ turnover record this year is “a plan”. Every team has that same “plan”. The fact Allen is the only player with a turnover and the defense is getting so many is a LOT of luck. They are making the most of their opportunities and that’s due to good coaching and execution. But the turnover advantage is a lot of luck or else they would have the same turnover record every year. 
 

 

[Udubalum07]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

We need an anchor on the DL for sure.   Let's hope the best version of DaQuan shows up this month.

 

He has been more noticeable in collapsing the pocket lately IMO

 

I am still mildly annoyed that we didn't put Eli Ankou on the 53.  Dude is really wide and I felt he earned a spot 

Yes, I agree with this.  It would have been great to get Sweat from Texas. He had a really solid year. I'm not a big PFF fan but did rank 16th out of 218 as a rookie.  You can't move the guy and he had 22 pressures and a couple of sacks as well.

[SoonerBillsFan]

10 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

This is unfortunately what happens when you have incredibly small guys playing against incredibly big guys, bodies wear down quicker the smaller you are 

Thank you!  Invest in bigger DL and LB this offseason.

8 minutes ago, Udubalum07 said:

Yes, I agree with this.  It would have been great to get Sweat from Texas. He had a really solid year. I'm not a big PFF fan but did rank 16th out of 218 as a rookie.  You can't move the guy and he had 22 pressures and a couple of sacks as well.

I wanted Sweat badly in this last draft.  

[machine gun kelly]

Bernard is fine.  They are holding him out simply because the game is meaningless.  They need to hold out Benford, Douglas, and Taron as well.  Let as many guys as possible rest and be ready for the playoffs.

 

The op is trying to stir up trouble, but it’s his opinion so that’s fine.

 

im also fine with Milano out too as a healthy scratch.  I don’t think we’ll see Von either and could care less.

 

My gut is elevated an o lineman and WR so cooper and Shakir can rest.  When Josh goes out so should the other starting o linemen.  We may win with our depth even with second stringers.

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Bernard is fine.  They are holding him out simply because the game is meaningless.  They need to hold out Benford, Douglas, and Taron as well.  Let as many guys as possible rest and be ready for the playoffs.

 

The op is trying to stir up trouble, but it’s his opinion so that’s fine.

 

im also fine with Milano out too as a healthy scratch.  I don’t think we’ll see Von either and could care less.

 

My gut is elevated an o lineman and WR so cooper and Shakir can rest.  When Josh goes out so should the other starting o linemen.  We may win with our depth even with second stringers.

 

I remember the Painful disappointment of seeing our starters lose to teams who were resting their starters. That is NOT a good feeling going into a looooong offseason, but that’s why we spend so much time looking at the draft. Hope springs eternal.  

[warrior9]

2 hours ago, T master said:

 

Any way you look at it he's better than Edmunds !! 

Not really sure why that matters, he wasn't on our team this year and he wasn't last year. Bringing up past players accomplishes nothing. 

 

Edmonds catching a stray in this thread is just weird. 

Edited Friday at 05:00 PM by warrior9

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 hours ago, colin said:

 

the DL and his fellow lb hasn't changed much since last season, has it?

 

frankly, the biggest downgrade in our D was babbich vs mcd.  we also lost some other assistant coaches.  

 

we lost our first OC to a HC job, fired the second who became an OC on another team, and there is talk our current OC might get lifted next season.  frazer walked off and there isn't exactly demand for him, mcd was ok last season (made some shocking head coaching in game moves, clearly he can't multi task), and now we have 31st in the nfl on 3rd down babich.  the problems with this team are all on one side of the ball, the side where they spend the picks and money.

Daboll wasn't the first OC of this era. Dennison was and he was fired quickly.

 

Yes, the LBer next to him changer from mainly Milano last year to an inexperienced Dorian Williams this year for a majority of the snaps and a broke down Milano after.

 

The DTs ahead of him have largely the same name on the back of the jersey...but to say Jones and Oliver are playing on the same level as they were last year couldn't be further from the truth.

 

The biggest loss on defense for Bernard IMO isn't from McD to Babich. It's having those two experienced voices standing behind him in Hyde and Poyer getting him to the right call, double checking him. He went from having 2 "big brothers" out there looking out for him to being the big bro. 

[frostbitmic]

He looked good last year even though Jones and Milano missed much of the season, so we know he can be good.

 

To me this years let down is most likely due to injury and that may become a problem with him if it isn't already. Milano hasn't played well either, is that because of injury and being "rusty" or is it scheme ?

 

 

[Virgil]

2 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Where was Jones taken? 

 

29th obviously

[colin]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Daboll wasn't the first OC of this era. Dennison was and he was fired quickly.

 

Yes, the LBer next to him changer from mainly Milano last year to an inexperienced Dorian Williams this year for a majority of the snaps and a broke down Milano after.

 

The DTs ahead of him have largely the same name on the back of the jersey...but to say Jones and Oliver are playing on the same level as they were last year couldn't be further from the truth.

 

The biggest loss on defense for Bernard IMO isn't from McD to Babich. It's having those two experienced voices standing behind him in Hyde and Poyer getting him to the right call, double checking him. He went from having 2 "big brothers" out there looking out for him to being the big bro. 

 

Milano was out for most of the season last year, and so was Jones.  

[JP51]

I am not so hung up on size as much as I am disappointed in the pursuit d shedding blocks and using its speed.  I get the speed D thats fine you just cant get swallowed up by OLs that beat your brains out of the play. Quite honest I think this also has something to do with the Safety play and them not getting off blocks either and turning the play or the direction... that said I am not a DC but I do see a drop off this year. 

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, colin said:

the DL and his fellow lb hasn't changed much since last season, has it?

 

Say WAT?  Um, yes, it has.  His fellow LB last season after Milano went out, was Tyrell Dodson platooned with Jordan Poyer on passing downs.

 

Last season, the cast of characters was different at DT, and the ones that are the same (DaQuan Jones, Ed Oliver) are assessed by most as having played signficantly better than they have been this season.

[machine gun kelly]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I remember the Painful disappointment of seeing our starters lose to teams who were resting their starters. That is NOT a good feeling going into a looooong offseason, but that’s why we spend so much time looking at the draft. Hope springs eternal.  

I remember that Steelers game very weak, and I think 2004.  I still think McD is doing the right thing as in past playoff games, we lost because we had key injury losses, specifically KC.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

You can’t tell me the Bills’ turnover record this year is “a plan”. Every team has that same “plan”. The fact Allen is the only player with a turnover and the defense is getting so many is a LOT of luck. They are making the most of their opportunities and that’s due to good coaching and execution. But the turnover advantage is a lot of luck or else they would have the same turnover record every year. 
 

 

That's only partially true. Fumbles are luck. Like Shakir fumbling last game but ball immediately going out of bounds. Interceptions are mostly not.  Even a tip ball INT requires skill to get hands up and then react to the tipped pass. 

[Ralonzo]

1) Use late rounder on Shaun Dolac

2) Play whichever is healthy between him and Bernard

3) ???

4) Profit