Bernard injury history

[familykwi]

If he cannot be available when the stakes are highest, I have no, none, zero interest in a long term deal until he finishes a playoff run.

Edited Friday at 05:08 AM by familykwi

[Rubes]

Sir, this is a Wendy’s….

 

[gonzo1105]

This is unfortunately what happens when you have incredibly small guys playing against incredibly big guys, bodies wear down quicker the smaller you are 

[Dr.Sack]

So you want to play more Dime defense and go smaller? Or do you want a 6’5 340 freak/goat/gold jacket 1T to occupy 2 OL?

[ghostwriter]

He needs a moose at NT and he’ll be fine.

[paulmm3]

Don't get the love for Bernard on this board. He grades at 153rd of 183 linebackers per PFF which is not gospel but lines up with my eye test. Our DL is poor as well (except Oliver vs the pass) but I have watched every snap and I do not buy the argument that Bernard would be good behind a good DL. He's a below average NFL linebacker. That effects my desire to sign him long term more than his injury history.

Edited Friday at 07:27 AM by paulmm3

[ProcessTruster]

i think we've kind of worn out this topic. 

 

They're playing the attacking, penetrating style of defense that fits the personnel they have and the offense they have. 

 

Is what it is.  I'd rather this than Reggie Ragland three steps behind RBs and Kelce every down.   You need to make a choice.   

 

As long as Josh lights 'em up on offense (and 9 out of 10 times he does) , this D scheme works just fine.  

[WotAGuy]

49 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

i think we've kind of worn out this topic. 

 

They're playing the attacking, penetrating style of defense that fits the personnel they have and the offense they have. 

 

Is what it is.  I'd rather this than Reggie Ragland three steps behind RBs and Kelce every down.   You need to make a choice.   

 

As long as Josh lights 'em up on offense (and 9 out of 10 times he does) , this D scheme works just fine.  

There’s a lot of luck involved, and if this D doesn’t lead in turnovers, it’s toast. Then we’re back to Josh being Superman every drive. 
 

They need major improvements in personnel on the D-line and LB. 

[RunTheBall]

He’s definitely taken a step back this season. I’m not sure why that is. My guess is our D-line isn’t doing as good a job keeping O-lineman from getting to the second level and he’s getting swallowed up. I’d get some bigger bodies up front next season and give him half a season behind a better D-line and see if he returns to last years form before deciding on an extension.

 

[Warriorspikes51]

21 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

He’s definitely taken a step back this season. I’m not sure why that is. My guess is our D-line isn’t doing as good a job keeping O-lineman from getting to the second level and he’s getting swallowed up. I’d get some bigger bodies up front next season and give him half a season behind a better D-line and see if he returns to last years form before deciding on an extension.

 

 

We need an anchor on the DL for sure.   Let's hope the best version of DaQuan shows up this month.

 

He has been more noticeable in collapsing the pocket lately IMO

 

I am still mildly annoyed that we didn't put Eli Ankou on the 53.  Dude is really wide and I felt he earned a spot 

Edited Friday at 02:04 PM by Warriorspikes51

[colin]

I think we played worse OCs/QBs last season and teams didn't have tape on bernard.  they do now, and the better guys who we played against were able to stop where he/the scheme is week and he wasn't able to fill out the stat sheet this season like he did last year.

 

we have a drop off in safety play as well.  hyde and poy were old and broken, but they knew the game cold and basically were in the right position which would force qbs to go underneath or backs to stay in their gaps allowing our LBs to just execute.

 

if he gets healthy he's a decent player, but the stats last year sort of suggested all pro level ability and i think that's just not the case.

[BuffaloBillyG]

9 hours ago, familykwi said:

If he cannot be available when the stakes are highest, I have no, none, zero interest in a long term deal until he finishes a playoff run.

Brandon Beane's timbers are shivering.

[Beck Water]

4 minutes ago, colin said:

I think we played worse OCs/QBs last season and teams didn't have tape on bernard.  they do now, and the better guys who we played against were able to stop where he/the scheme is week and he wasn't able to fill out the stat sheet this season like he did last year.

 

we have a drop off in safety play as well.  hyde and poy were old and broken, but they knew the game cold and basically were in the right position which would force qbs to go underneath or backs to stay in their gaps allowing our LBs to just execute.

 

if he gets healthy he's a decent player, but the stats last year sort of suggested all pro level ability and i think that's just not the case.

 

Tape matters

Who he is playing next to, matters

How the DL is playing in front of him matters a lot

[T master]

6 hours ago, paulmm3 said:

Don't get the love for Bernard on this board. He grades at 153rd of 183 linebackers per PFF which is not gospel but lines up with my eye test. Our DL is poor as well (except Oliver vs the pass) but I have watched every snap and I do not buy the argument that Bernard would be good behind a good DL. He's a below average NFL linebacker. That effects my desire to sign him long term more than his injury history.

 

Any way you look at it he's better than Edmunds !! 

[colin]

8 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Tape matters

Who he is playing next to, matters

How the DL is playing in front of him matters a lot

 

the DL and his fellow lb hasn't changed much since last season, has it?

 

frankly, the biggest downgrade in our D was babbich vs mcd.  we also lost some other assistant coaches.  

 

we lost our first OC to a HC job, fired the second who became an OC on another team, and there is talk our current OC might get lifted next season.  frazer walked off and there isn't exactly demand for him, mcd was ok last season (made some shocking head coaching in game moves, clearly he can't multi task), and now we have 31st in the nfl on 3rd down babich.  the problems with this team are all on one side of the ball, the side where they spend the picks and money.

[Buffalo03]

9 hours ago, familykwi said:

If he cannot be available when the stakes are highest, I have no, none, zero interest in a long term deal until he finishes a playoff run.

And the stakes are really high this Sunday. Even higher than next week when he will most likely play. But if he can't handle this Sunday's high stakes matchup, cut him Monday

[Matt_In_NH]

9 hours ago, familykwi said:

If he cannot be available when the stakes are highest, I have no, none, zero interest in a long term deal until he finishes a playoff run.

Opinion noted

[YattaOkasan]

lol this thread misses what Bernard does. Coverage. He has a sub 80 rating against and a low missed tackle rate. Is he a great run stopper? No but that’s not what the Bills want.
 

Saying he’s a below average LB shows people don’t consider coverage like at all. Additionally the part that people don’t seem to appreciate is how often he knows the play that’s coming and gets the defense set. Against the Pats he audibles the defense on the TD. Last year that was a huge play on their GW drive. I assume these folks love Dorian as well. Who does Dorian look to every play something goes sideways (Devante’s Adam’s TD for example)?  He’ll be ready for the playoffs and I’m happy with the dude even if he does come with some injury risk. 

[ProcessTruster]

1 hour ago, WotAGuy said:

There’s a lot of luck involved, and if this D doesn’t lead in turnovers, it’s toast. Then we’re back to Josh being Superman every drive. 
 

They need major improvements in personnel on the D-line and LB. 

but this D does lead in turnovers, thats the point.  its a point of emphasis, not just "hope we get some" ; its a way of playing.  One turnover is worth 2 punts.   Protect the ball on offense, turn them over on defense.  Its not luck, its a strategy, an approach.   

 

Fanbase needs to get over "Chris Jones" syndrome.   there are like 5 guys of that type in the entire league (Vea, Simmons, a couple others) and that is it and they are locked up.    Sure Beane will go back to the draft to get one, but drafting in the 30's ain't getting that done.    

 

What the Bills do is an alternative to having a Chris Jones and it is working.  

[chris heff]

Whenever the subject of an often injured good player comes up, I think of Phil Simms. At the beginning of his career he keep getting injured and the Giants kept trying to to replace him and then he was the Super Bowl MVP.