Von Miller needs 1 sack for $1.5 million

[Warriorspikes51]

I can see him playing the first defensive series 

[Mr. WEO]

he's getting 4 million per...why would he sack for 1.5?

[dma0034]

21 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

 

Not Bills but I hope Mike Evans keeps that 1k streak going. Dude absolutely deserves it

Edited Friday at 05:16 PM by dma0034

[BillsShredder83]

20 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He volunteered to take a massive pay cut this past offseason. This act saved us significantly more cap than cutting him this year would have. Releasing him instead of keeping him on the reworked deal for 2024 would have been cutting off our nose to spite our face. 

Stop using reason with the 1 emotion capable, Captain Hindsight, mob.  Its his fault he got injured, even though he had been healthy 90% of his career.  Brandon Beane needs to be able to look in his crystal ball and see fluke injuries before they happen!  Von is the first person in NFL history to blow an ACL and make a lot of money, personally I think he did it on purpose! 

 

Obviously, everyone here personally knows him and was in the facility seeing him slack on his rehab!  If anyone else in NFL history had torn their ACL before, I'd imagine they would've came back at 100% and playing better than ever the following year, but since hes the very first, we'll never know what the season after an ACL tear looks like from a player.

 

Maybe in the future if it happens we can look at a players body of work and see if they return to form as soon as they get back to playing.  

 

Or we can just say 'hE StOLe dE mOnIeS! bEaNe iZ dUmbG!'  Either flies around here

[MDH]

Having Rousseau and Miller healthy and rested going into the playoffs is key to their success. They have no one else who has been getting consistent push and lack of a pass rush has killed this team in the playoffs. 
 

I’d rest Miller and give him his bonus anyway.

[Warriorspikes51]

18 minutes ago, MDH said:

Having Rousseau and Miller healthy and rested going into the playoffs is key to their success. They have no one else who has been getting consistent push and lack of a pass rush has killed this team in the playoffs. 
 

I’d rest Miller and give him his bonus anyway.

 

Von has rested for a month of the season and played a limited % of snaps.   He showed some elite flash against NY.   More of that please

[Solomon Grundy]

4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I can see him playing the first defensive series 

Or just on passing downs until he gets the sack

[Rew]

I don't think it is a given that he is gone next year. Clearly he isn't going to be playing under a $17M base salary.  A similar, incentive laden restructure bringing his base down with incentives to get over $10M wouldn't be a bad deal for us or him.  If cut, with dead cap and bonuses yet to be paid he would account for >$20M cap next year (>$10M post June 1st with only $100k workout bonus cost).  We could get him at a $15-$18M cap hit in '25 with <$10M dead in '26.

 

I'm not pounding the table for him, but if he still wants to play I think we would go for it.  Assuming he wasn't suspended and played 17 games he would have hit 8+ sacks this year on a part time schedule.

Edited Friday at 06:35 PM by Rew

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

23 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

That is just stupid. He and his **** contract need to go.

 

Wait, we're mad he took a pay cut now?

[Spiderweb]

23 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

While he may still have a play or two left, he needs to go away. It is so sickening to watch him initially give some effort to rush the QB, only watch him just quit more often than not when he doesn't get there quickly. A once great player (recall his SB performance against the Panthers) who is merely a hollow shell of his former self. 

[Kelly to Allen]

Just now, Spiderweb said:

While he may still have a play or two left, he needs to go away. It is so sickening to watch him initially give some effort to rush the QB, only watch him just quit more often than not when he doesn't get there quickly. A once great player (recall his SB performance against the Panthers) who is merely a hollow shell of his former self. 

 

Please come back to this when he helps us win the super bowl and is dominating everyone in the playoffs 

[Alphadawg7]

Personally, I think he wont play.  I think the idea of both winning a SB with a 3rd team and that being the first SB in that teams history will matter more to Von than the incentive.  He already made a lot of money for doing very little last year and its why it was him who willingly took a pay cut instead of reworking his deal this year that really helped the Bills for this season.  

 

If the $1.5M was that hyper important to him, he would have made a case to play more down the stretch.  The writing has been on the wall for weeks that this team was almost certainly going to have nothing to play for this final week and the key players would play very little or not at all.  

 

While I think someone like Milano needs to play a little as he is still playing himself into peak shape, I really don't expect much play time for anyone else.  With a gauntlet that likely already includes Lamar and Mahomes (assuming no earlier round upsets) and possibly Burrow, they are not going to risk the season on someone pursuing some stats.  

[Aussie Joe]

13 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

It's okay for Josh to extend his consecutive game streak, but NOT okay for Von to try to earn $1.5M?🤔

Correct 

[Mr. WEO]

21 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Stop using reason with the 1 emotion capable, Captain Hindsight, mob.  Its his fault he got injured, even though he had been healthy 90% of his career.  Brandon Beane needs to be able to look in his crystal ball and see fluke injuries before they happen!  Von is the first person in NFL history to blow an ACL and make a lot of money, personally I think he did it on purpose! 

 

Obviously, everyone here personally knows him and was in the facility seeing him slack on his rehab!  If anyone else in NFL history had torn their ACL before, I'd imagine they would've came back at 100% and playing better than ever the following year, but since hes the very first, we'll never know what the season after an ACL tear looks like from a player.

 

Maybe in the future if it happens we can look at a players body of work and see if they return to form as soon as they get back to playing.  

 

Or we can just say 'hE StOLe dE mOnIeS! bEaNe iZ dUmbG!'  Either flies around here

 

didn't take a crystal ball to understand that Miller failed at least 3 drug tests in Denver (got a 4 game suspension that he was challenging because "he didn't do any thing wrong"...that got bumped up to 6 when he was busted with his "tester" in a scheme where they swapped his urine sample).  Nor that he was investigated for beating up his kids' mother in 2021---which he did again last year, leading to another suspension.  That's 10 games right there.  Plus he missed the entire 2020 season with injury.  He was injured when the Broncos (in the midst of his first known domestic abuse investigation) fleeced the Rams out of a 2nd and a 3rd to get him out of the building pronto.  The Rams would let him go after half a season, despite a SB win.  Beane was eager to pull Miller out of the Rams post SB party dumpster and pour another 120 million into an aging pass rusher who had recently missed a season on IR.

 

yeah, who could foreseen any of this??

 

Anyway, no one can argue, that, for the money, he has been anything but a low impact player for his entire Bills career thus far.  Injured his first year, useless his second, now limping back into some form that requires film study the Zapruder movie never got in order to make an argument that he's a value player out there.

[Sierra Foothills]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

didn't take a crystal ball to understand that Miller failed at least 3 drug tests in Denver (got a 4 game suspension that he was challenging because "he didn't do any thing wrong"...that got bumped up to 6 when he was busted with his "tester" in a scheme where they swapped his urine sample).  Nor that he was investigated for beating up his kids' mother in 2021---which he did again last year, leading to another suspension.  That's 10 games right there.  Plus he missed the entire 2020 season with injury.  He was injured when the Broncos (in the midst of his first known domestic abuse investigation) fleeced the Rams out of a 2nd and a 3rd to get him out of the building pronto.  The Rams would let him go after half a season, despite a SB win.  Beane was eager to pull Miller out of the Rams post SB party dumpster and pour another 120 million into an aging pass rusher who had recently missed a season on IR.

 

yeah, who could foreseen any of this??

 

Anyway, no one can argue, that, for the money, he has been anything but a low impact player for his entire Bills career thus far.  Injured his first year, useless his second, now limping back into some form that requires film study the Zapruder movie never got in order to make an argument that he's a value player out there.

 

If Von makes a handful of outcome affecting plays in the postseason and the Bills win the Super Bowl, how will you feel about the acquisition?

 

[Mr. WEO]

17 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

If Von makes a handful of outcome affecting plays in the postseason and the Bills win the Super Bowl, how will you feel about the acquisition?

 

 

If the Bills win the SB this year in a game that he actually impacts, it was worth every penny, obviously lol.

 

that hasn't happened since 2021....

 

 

[TheWei44]

22 hours ago, Rew said:

I don't think it is a given that he is gone next year. Clearly he isn't going to be playing under a $17M base salary.  A similar, incentive laden restructure bringing his base down with incentives to get over $10M wouldn't be a bad deal for us or him.  If cut, with dead cap and bonuses yet to be paid he would account for >$20M cap next year (>$10M post June 1st with only $100k workout bonus cost).  We could get him at a $15-$18M cap hit in '25 with <$10M dead in '26.

 

I'm not pounding the table for him, but if he still wants to play I think we would go for it.  Assuming he wasn't suspended and played 17 games he would have hit 8+ sacks this year on a part time schedule.

Agree - If he makes some impact plays in the playoffs, and we go deep, he could be back at the right price.  

[Mr. WEO]

23 hours ago, Rew said:

I don't think it is a given that he is gone next year. Clearly he isn't going to be playing under a $17M base salary.  A similar, incentive laden restructure bringing his base down with incentives to get over $10M wouldn't be a bad deal for us or him.  If cut, with dead cap and bonuses yet to be paid he would account for >$20M cap next year (>$10M post June 1st with only $100k workout bonus cost).  We could get him at a $15-$18M cap hit in '25 with <$10M dead in '26.

 

I'm not pounding the table for him, but if he still wants to play I think we would go for it.  Assuming he wasn't suspended and played 17 games he would have hit 8+ sacks this year on a part time schedule.

 

if only stats for players worked that way.  In fact, he's had 2 sacks since halloween (8 games).

[US Egg]

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

didn't take a crystal ball to understand that Miller failed at least 3 drug tests in Denver (got a 4 game suspension that he was challenging because "he didn't do any thing wrong"...that got bumped up to 6 when he was busted with his "tester" in a scheme where they swapped his urine sample).  Nor that he was investigated for beating up his kids' mother in 2021---which he did again last year, leading to another suspension.  That's 10 games right there.  Plus he missed the entire 2020 season with injury.  He was injured when the Broncos (in the midst of his first known domestic abuse investigation) fleeced the Rams out of a 2nd and a 3rd to get him out of the building pronto.  The Rams would let him go after half a season, despite a SB win.  Beane was eager to pull Miller out of the Rams post SB party dumpster and pour another 120 million into an aging pass rusher who had recently missed a season on IR.

 

yeah, who could foreseen any of this??

 

Anyway, no one can argue, that, for the money, he has been anything but a low impact player for his entire Bills career thus far.  Injured his first year, useless his second, now limping back into some form that requires film study the Zapruder movie never got in order to make an argument that he's a value player out there.

Yeah, this signing thew out the self righteous “character counts” phoniness that no team really adheres to.

 

Lee Harvey Miller?

[C.Biscuit97]

Finally the Bills are taking care of Von!!!!

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

if only stats for players worked that way.  In fact, he's had 2 sacks since halloween (8 games).

He hit a rb hard once! 

Edited Saturday at 07:50 PM by C.Biscuit97