Von Miller needs 1 sack for $1.5 million

[Sierra Foothills]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

 

Thanks for posting.

 

4 hours ago, BearNorth said:

Von's career earnings are $187 Million, so what's $1.5MM among friends.

 

I don't know, you'd have to ask Von.

 

4 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

When McDermott held his Monday presser, someone asked him about Cooks 1,000 yards and he said he was aware amongst other things and they would try to achieve them if they could but they would put the team first before those individual things. 
 

When he said that I said to myself I wonder if Cook or others have incentive bonuses that are close and thought that was what he was hinting at

 

Probably so.

 

4 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

I wonder if, when guys are held out of the final game that they had a big incentive riding on, the teams do like the sportsbooks and offer 20-40% of the incentive and cut their losses?

 

Based on the spreadsheet that was linked, this probably happens hundreds of times each season across the NFL. Somewhere in the history of this repeated occurrence it's not hard to believe that there were some cases that were negotiated.

 

4 hours ago, Cash said:

I still think he sits. He’s made enough money (and cares enough about his image) to not make a stink over $1.5 mil.

 

Sounds like you know Von pretty well.

 

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

But he agreed to take a pay cut on the basis he'd have the opportunity to earn some back. I hope he and Beane could have a sensible chat about it but he might justifiably be pissed if the "opportunity" is scaled back by a game.

 

Especially being a big name player with a big name agent, my gut feeling is that this matter has already been agreed upon by both sides. JMO.

 

3 hours ago, 17islongenough said:

Anyone else look at these incentives and think about parlays?

 

https://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/content/about-us

 

3 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

If he does that Ill be the first to dance a jig lol

 

You're not gonna get off that easy...

 

2 hours ago, Bookie Man said:

If I were Von, I'd be on the phone with Maye or Brissett and be trying to workout at a Favre - Strahan type deal. 😁

 

"And playing the part of Mark Gastineau..."

 

22 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

this guy has more money than g-d, who gives a crap if he puts another 1.5 on top of it

 

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but maybe Von gives a crap.

 

Edited Friday at 12:26 AM by Sierra Foothills

[DCofNC]

Sit him, he had plenty of rushes right past the QB, his own efforts got him where he is.

[fergie's ire]

It's not like this is his only bonus and he is being robbed of it at the end of the year.  He earns a bonus at 2,4,6,8,10.5, and 15 sacks.  It's just that he is at five so the NEXT bonus is just one away.  If he can get 3 more, he'll get a 3.5 million bonus.

[Buffalo03]

If he is on the team next year, only put a $10 million 10 sack incentive on it and that's it. Watch 24 year old Von Miller come back at 36

[WideNine]

5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

That is just stupid. He and his **** contract need to go.

 

Dunno, I think there was a lot that went into restructuring his deal and considerations for his suspension.

 

I am a bit of a fan of negotiating $$ towards incentives over commiting paying $$ without any of those baked in.

 

How often have we seen players pour it on then fade after getting paid?

 

Admit I am not a contracts or cap guru, we have those that are who could weigh in.

 

 

[ganesh]

5 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Dang, I hope he doesn't play because I want him healthy. Is it possible they work out an incentive settlement, even though it sounds unlikely.

 

I def would've liked him on the bench, he understandably will want to play. Yikes I kinda hate this predicament at this point

I am sure they will add it as an incentive to achieve in the playoffs.

[NoSaint]

6 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

He took a reduction but with the chance to earn it back with incentives.

he took a reduction because the alternative was to get cut and struggle to find a team and absolutely have no chance to earn it back even if he signed elsewhere 

 

the dude got 5 sacks in 16 games. First off, not a great year. But also Sounds like he shouldn’t have gotten himself suspended if the 1.5m was that important to him. 
 

sit him down, and don’t give him a single pass rush.

[Matt_In_NH]

11 hours ago, NoSaint said:

he took a reduction because the alternative was to get cut and struggle to find a team and absolutely have no chance to earn it back even if he signed elsewhere 

 

the dude got 5 sacks in 16 games. First off, not a great year. But also Sounds like he shouldn’t have gotten himself suspended if the 1.5m was that important to him. 
 

sit him down, and don’t give him a single pass rush.

The alternative was not getting cut.  He knew he was getting suspended so they made a deal where the bills resuced his salary which saved his loss during the suspension.  Essentially they split those savings.  He has 5 sacks in 12 games and he gets what 25% of snaps.  He is no saint but he is worthy of getting play time in the post season. Why the anger?   Do you realize the cap ramifications if they were  to just cut him now?

Edited Friday at 01:02 PM by Matt_In_NH

[Cash]

1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Sounds like you know Von pretty well.

 

 

 

 

 

I don’t know Von at all, but I have watched a moderate amount of his public-facing persona, especially since leaving the Broncos, and extra especially after joining the Bills. I believe he’s spoken openly about his desire to go into media after retiring? (Plz correct if I’m mistaken on that.) I’m very confident that he doesn’t want bad PR if he can help it. I'm also pretty confident that McBeane will want Von to sit for team-first, strategic reasons. If the rubber really hits the road, I imagine they’d hash it out so that Von sits, but the team agrees to pay some of that $1.5 million, or maybe all if Von kicks ass in the playoffs. Either way, I don’t think Von suits up. 

 

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Especially being a big name player with a big name agent, my gut feeling is that this matter has already been agreed upon by both sides. JMO.

 

 

I agree with this. 

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, Cash said:

I don’t know Von at all, but I have watched a moderate amount of his public-facing persona, especially since leaving the Broncos, and extra especially after joining the Bills. I believe he’s spoken openly about his desire to go into media after retiring? (Plz correct if I’m mistaken on that.) I’m very confident that he doesn’t want bad PR if he can help it. I'm also pretty confident that McBeane will want Von to sit for team-first, strategic reasons. If the rubber really hits the road, I imagine they’d hash it out so that Von sits, but the team agrees to pay some of that $1.5 million, or maybe all if Von kicks ass in the playoffs. Either way, I don’t think Von suits up. 

 

I never heard that.  He has said he is interested in becoming an NFL GM.

As for the Bills and Von's agent sitting down this week and redoing a contract agreement over a 1 sack incentive...........I doubt it.

[Sierra Foothills]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

As for the Bills and Von's agent sitting down this week and redoing a contract agreement over a 1 sack incentive...........I doubt it.

 

Well there is a thing called a cell phone...

 

😛

 

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Well there is a thing called a cell phone...

 

😛

 

 

I'm guessing Von's agent's call would go straight to Beanes voicemail.

They are not redoing his contract over this.

All this talk about this 1 sack is crazy.  Von needs to be preparing for his old team the Broncos.

[LABILLBACKER]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

But he agreed to take a pay cut on the basis he'd have the opportunity to earn some back. I hope he and Beane could have a sensible chat about it but he might justifiably be pissed if the "opportunity" is scaled back by a game.

As an act of kindness and PR, if I were Terry I'd just pay Von, Taron, Dawson & DQ.  What's another 2.5 among friends. 

[T master]

8 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

Yeah he has already earned $2.5M for 4 sacks and can get another $1.5M if he gets to 6.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/7717/von-miller

 

He should sit and get fully healthy for the play offs & call last years pay even because they got little to nothing out of him . Plus i'm sure he's got other incentives written in for the play offs if he plays over so many snaps or gets so much per sack and such, he ain't hurting for no money that's for sure ...

[Solomon Grundy]

9 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Almost zero chance he dresses Sunday

It makes no sense. The whole reason he was signed three years ago was to play in the post season not in a meaningless regular season game. 

I'll give him 1.5 M chances to play 😎

[Solomon Grundy]

It's okay for Josh to extend his consecutive game streak, but NOT okay for Von to try to earn $1.5M?🤔

[Richard Noggin]

Interesting that Bills have 4 guys listed and the Patriots, from what I could see, have zero? Plus the Pats locker room has been overtly frustrated and even calling for "change," and they're sitting the talented rookie QB which signals an obvious kind of looking ahead, organizationally. 

 

Brissett is a pro backup, and could be efficient against Bills backups who will be running vanilla schemes. But will the guys around him be fully motivated? Will be interesting to see how the battle at the LOS plays out on both sides of the ball. Early game script could dictate how both teams handle personnel and play-calling in the 2nd half. 

[beerme1]

23 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

It's okay for Josh to extend his consecutive game streak, but NOT okay for Von to try to earn $1.5M?🤔

 

I don't think these are comparable. Or are you saying you give Josh one snap to continue a streak and Von one snap at getting a sack?

Edited Saturday at 04:41 AM by beerme1

[Ethan in Cleveland]

5 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

It's okay for Josh to extend his consecutive game streak, but NOT okay for Von to try to earn $1.5M?🤔

Yes

[Mr. WEO]

the sack is half empty....