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33 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

But he agreed to take a pay cut on the basis he'd have the opportunity to earn some back. I hope he and Beane could have a sensible chat about it but he might justifiably be pissed if the "opportunity" is scaled back by a game.

 

Perhaps.  I think it would be simpler with a more guaranteed incentive, like # of snaps or just playing in the game.  In that scenario, I think they'd sit him anyway, then do a mini-restructure to give him the incentive money in the offseason.  I think that's pretty common when a player misses out on an incentive by doing what's best for the team.
 

In this case, where a sack is far from guaranteed even with a full workload, Hypothetical Whiny Von wouldn't have as good a case.  (And if Beane wanted to be a dick, he could point out that Von's suspension cost him much more opportunity than getting vet rest.)  Ultimately my guess is that Actual Von will care more about the potential for injury and chance to rest for the playoffs than he will about the $1.5 million.  If he plays on Sunday, I'll stand corrected.

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1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

That is just stupid. He and his **** contract need to go.

 

He volunteered to take a massive pay cut this past offseason. This act saved us significantly more cap than cutting him this year would have. Releasing him instead of keeping him on the reworked deal for 2024 would have been cutting off our nose to spite our face. 

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12 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He volunteered to take a massive pay cut this past offseason. This act saved us significantly more cap than cutting him this year would have. Releasing him instead of keeping him on the reworked deal for 2024 would have been cutting off our nose to spite our face. 

He needs to be gone this offseason.  We drastically need to upgrade the Defense this offseason (and still upgrade WR with one player)

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4 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

He needs to be gone this offseason.  We drastically need to upgrade the Defense this offseason (and still upgrade WR with one player)


Of course....there's still a chance the defense plays amazing in the playoffs and we win it all

Then what will this board have to say?     I'm sure there will be negative threads posted right after we win 🤣

 

I can see it now    "this team got lucky and will never win again  blah blah BLAHHHHH" 

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1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


Of course....there's still a chance the defense plays amazing in the playoffs and we win it all

Then what will this board have to say?     I'm sure there will be negative threads posted right after we win 🤣

 

I can see it now    "this team got lucky and will never win again  blah blah BLAHHHHH" 

I dont give a damn if its luck, Vegas paying refs to make sure we win, JUST WIN THE DAMN SUPERBOWL!!!

 

Posted
Just now, GreggTX said:

Only 2 Bills? What?


I LOVE IT.   Cook not making it will help the OL maul and Cook run angry in the playoffs.

 

Same with Benford

 

Honestly, I wish Mahomes got the Pro Bowl over Allen.    Now Mahomes will use that snub as motivation

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Let him play and try to get his sack. Not doing that is Mike Brown level stuff and that sort of word gets around fast.

 

Healthy, not healthy, I'm not sure he brings much to the table anymore anyway and I'm certainly not counting on him to close out anything. He can't bend the corner anymore. What McDonald was doing last week is what Miller used to be and that's what we need. He's not that guy anymore and that guy isn't going to magically appear in the next 10 days.

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47 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Just tell him he's going to play the whole first quarter with no gap or contain responsibilities before he shuts it down for the day. Have DaQuan keep crashing the Guard to keep him out of Miller's hair and run some sets that have Cam Lewis walking down to show blitz. That is an honest effort to get the guy his sack while not unreasonably endangering his health. If he gets it, great. If he doesn't, hey we tried now let's move on.

As a side note, some of you who are repeatedly ragging on a Buffalo Bill because he blew up his knee are really embarrassing.

 

 

How about Von giving DaQuan some help?  Jones needs 1/2 sack to get his $250k sack incentive.

Let's make sure Taron Johnson plays all game; he only needs 1 more INT for his $250k.

Same goes for Taylor Rapp, he needs 1 more.

There are other Bills close to incentives too.

 

I'm not ragging on Miller; his job is to get sacks in the playoffs.  He could have easily got his extra $1.5M if he didn't get suspended.

Heck, if Von gets 3 sacks he gets an extra $3.5M.  I mean where does it stop with him, his incentives go up to 15.

I want Von tearing it up in the playoffs.  I could care less about a meaningless end of season game.  So should he, IMO.

 

I'm personally hoping Sam Martin can get one more punt inside the 20.  He gets another $100k if he does.

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12 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


Of course....there's still a chance the defense plays amazing in the playoffs and we win it all

Then what will this board have to say?     I'm sure there will be negative threads posted right after we win 🤣

 

I can see it now    "this team got lucky and will never win again  blah blah BLAHHHHH" 

So true. The bill buchanon of the board will be out to rain on the parade.  But it will be about a week after we win it all. They will avoid the boards for a week and come back with a "this is why we won't win next year" thread

Posted
7 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

If he wanted this incentive maybe he shouldn't have choked out his pregnant fiancee and gotten himself suspended for 4 games 

 

were charges officially filed?  I didn't think they were so I'm still not understanding why he was suspended

 

it's frustrating because he was getting a sack per game and looking pretty good until that

 

He's finally starting to look impactful out there again.  Absolutely destroyed the Jets OT to get a sack 

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2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

I'm not ragging on Miller; his job is to get sacks in the playoffs.  He could have easily got his extra $1.5M if he didn't get suspended.

 

I don't buy this because they all knew the suspension was coming so it was undoubtedly factored into the negotiation.

 

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

How about Von giving DaQuan some help?  Jones needs 1/2 sack to get his $250k sack incentive.

Let's make sure Taron Johnson plays all game; he only needs 1 more INT for his $250k.

Same goes for Taylor Rapp, he needs 1 more.

 

I'm all for giving DaQuan some help for 1 qrtr by telling him to forget about the ground game and go get the QB and incorporating some twists to get him free.

I just didn't mention it because this is a thread about Miller.

As for the INTs; they're too random and both of those guys are too important to monkey with that, imo.

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1 minute ago, Simon said:

I just didn't mention it because this is a thread about Miller.

 

Miller gets the clicks and the news which is part of my point.

There are a whole lot of "incentives" on the line.

If Knox doesn't play the majority of this next game, he misses on $.

 

If fans are curious about incentives for the WHOLE team, here they are.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/incentives

Posted
2 hours ago, transient said:

Not disagreeing, but the counter argument is that he restructured his deal to make it more cap friendly to the Bills and load up on incentives because he had such a poor season last season. I suspect whether he plays or not depends on how much the 1.5M means to him.

The counter to that is don't get suspended for 4 games then you could of had 4 more tries to get that 1 sack. I'd sit him

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