TheWei44 Posted Thursday at 09:54 PM Posted Thursday at 09:54 PM The more I think about it, the more I think contracts can fully anticipate this situation and work around it. Something like: If Team X is slated to play a meaningless game (defined as such and such), a starting player in good health will earn his pro-rated/expected number of sacks based on all games played in the season prior to the meaningless game. 1 Quote
Simon Posted Thursday at 09:57 PM Posted Thursday at 09:57 PM 5 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: The counter to that is don't get suspended for 4 games then you could of had 4 more tries to get that 1 sack. I'd sit him They all knew the suspension was coming and it was undoubtedly factored into the incentive goal. It's an irrelevant argument regarding his contract. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted Thursday at 09:58 PM Posted Thursday at 09:58 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: He needs to be gone this offseason. We drastically need to upgrade the Defense this offseason (and still upgrade WR with one player) He will be. Whether it's us winning a ring and him retiring on a Super Bowl win or us releasing him - his contract was always viewed as a 3 year deal. Cutting him this past offseason would have done us more harm than good and after he gave us the option to rework his deal, WAY more harm than good. This is why your original post is getting universally downvoted. Opining that he shouldn't be here and that the incentives are stupid is actually quite the opposite of the situation, given the circumstances surrounding his being here v. not being here this year. Edited Friday at 01:21 AM by BillsFanForever19 1 1 1 Quote
ChevyVanMiller Posted Thursday at 10:05 PM Posted Thursday at 10:05 PM 2 hours ago, Danger Mouse said: Give him one rep. ”well, here’s your chance big man” Rudy only needed one. Quote
LabattBlue Posted Thursday at 10:17 PM Posted Thursday at 10:17 PM 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: That is just stupid. He and his **** contract need to go. No need to fret. He will be gone come spring. Quote
JimBob2232 Posted Thursday at 10:18 PM Posted Thursday at 10:18 PM They need to re-wicker all these incentives - sacks in first 15 or 16 games....so that this doesnt need to be a thing teams actually worry about... 1 1 Quote
Bookie Man Posted Thursday at 10:21 PM Posted Thursday at 10:21 PM If I were Von, I'd be on the phone with Maye or Brissett and be trying to workout at a Favre - Strahan type deal. 😁 1 1 Quote
Johnny Bravo Posted Thursday at 10:23 PM Posted Thursday at 10:23 PM 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: That is just stupid. He and his **** contract need to go. Unless I am remembering wrong (and I'm not, LOL), Von accepted those incentives as part of VOLUNTARILY renegotiating his contract to a lower number. It was the ultimate, team-first sort of thing we as fans are supposed to love. 2 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted Thursday at 10:29 PM Posted Thursday at 10:29 PM 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: He needs to go. That is a topic for the offseason dude...... 1 1 Quote
Bills Bud Posted Thursday at 10:33 PM Posted Thursday at 10:33 PM He needs it to pay off the pregnant girlfriend he beat Quote
Augie Posted Thursday at 10:36 PM Posted Thursday at 10:36 PM 13 minutes ago, Bookie Man said: If I were Von, I'd be on the phone with Maye or Brissett and be trying to workout at a Favre - Strahan type deal. 😁 I’m not sure if either of them can be nearly the D-Bag Favre was. Quote
Simon Posted Thursday at 10:38 PM Posted Thursday at 10:38 PM 15 minutes ago, Johnny Bravo said: Unless I am remembering wrong (and I'm not, LOL), Von accepted those incentives as part of VOLUNTARILY renegotiating his contract to a lower number. It was the ultimate, team-first sort of thing we as fans are supposed to love. He doesn't care. Once he gets a hate-on, it's over. 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted Thursday at 10:41 PM Posted Thursday at 10:41 PM 2 hours ago, Danger Mouse said: Give him one rep. ”well, here’s your chance big man” Gonna need two reps to get it. But agree. He is not here to get paid by Bills. We already done that thing He is here to help us SB.Period 1 Quote
QCity Posted Thursday at 10:43 PM Posted Thursday at 10:43 PM McD said we're going to see a lot of the backups, right? Then yeah, I expect him to be out there. 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted Thursday at 10:45 PM Posted Thursday at 10:45 PM 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: We will need bail money 💰 I can help out with that 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted Thursday at 10:48 PM Posted Thursday at 10:48 PM still, have to sit him. Dude needs to be healthy for the playoffs. Quote
Whites Bay Posted Thursday at 11:07 PM Posted Thursday at 11:07 PM 3 hours ago, QB Bills said: I can picture him getting the sack late in the 4th quarter Sunday then tearing his quad celebrating. Would be an appropriate end to his time here. Do you remember when Shawne Merriman finally came back after 86 years of rehabbing his knee? His name was called over the loudspeaker, he pounded up and down the sideline doing his f**king stupid "sack dance", and promptly tore his pectoral. Never saw the field. Back to IR we go. So...please be careful what you wish for. Quote
ticketssince61 Posted Thursday at 11:09 PM Posted Thursday at 11:09 PM 3 hours ago, BearNorth said: Von's career earnings are $187 Million, so what's $1.5MM among friends. Pegula's net worth is $7 to $8 Billion so even more of a drop in the bucket Would this affect salary cap going forward? 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted Friday at 12:03 AM Posted Friday at 12:03 AM 4 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Dang, I hope he doesn't play because I want him healthy. Is it possible they work out an incentive settlement, even though it sounds unlikely. I def would've liked him on the bench, he understandably will want to play. Yikes I kinda hate this predicament at this point this guy has more money than g-d, who gives a crap if he puts another 1.5 on top of it Quote
BarleyNY Posted Friday at 12:09 AM Posted Friday at 12:09 AM 4 hours ago, transient said: Not disagreeing, but the counter argument is that he restructured his deal to make it more cap friendly to the Bills and load up on incentives because he had such a poor season last season. I suspect whether he plays or not depends on how much the 1.5M means to him. The restructure also gave him a signing bonus and reduced his salary to vet minimum so his imminent suspension would not cost him as much in lost game checks. Plus he had the opportunity to make all the money he gave back and then some if he got enough sacks. He just didn’t. 1 Quote
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