Baldy's Breakdown Bills Jets Week 17

[dma0034]

You wonder why Dawkins and the Jets hate each other. That player had 0 chance to make a play and all three were standing. If that led to that Jets player being injuried it would look bad on Dawkins. No need for that

[Doc Brown]

Groot is the only must sign this off-season imo.  I don't want to play the tag game with him.  One of the best in the league rushing the passer and defending the run.

[Chandler#81]

11 hours ago, mannc said:

Looked like kind of a cheap shot to me…I know Dion hates the Jets…

I join Dion in that regard.  Nothing is too terrible for the jets.

[MiracleAtRich1393]

16 hours ago, BearNorth said:

The Baldy breakdown on the combined Von/Rousseau sack, makes me wonder what KC will have to do with their troubles at tackle?

My guess is blatantly hold without being flagged, works every time 

[JerseyBills]

Dawkins has been playing incredible,  possibly the best LT in the game right now. Signed a 3 yr 60 mil extension this off season.  Great work by Beane and at 30 y.o Dion is hitting his prime 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

21 hours ago, mannc said:

I didn’t say it was illegal…but it was a cheap shot.  The defender was engaged with two other blockers and Dawkins blindsided him.  Kinda the definition of a cheap shot…certainly nothing to be proud of.

Sooooffftttttt

 

just messing around man. You may think it’s cheap and I respect your opinion. I just disagree.  Between the whistles like that is something that is coached up and encouraged on the LOS. I would 100% bet he got a ton of props for this from teammates for a play like that. 

[Pete]

On 1/3/2025 at 3:24 AM, Doc Brown said:

Groot is the only must sign this off-season imo.  I don't want to play the tag game with him.  One of the best in the league rushing the passer and defending the run.

BENFORD 

[Doc Brown]

33 minutes ago, Pete said:

BENFORD 

Not even being named a pro bowl alternate would make me thinks he plays the final year of his deal in order to put another year on tape to maximize his value.  Rousseau will count $13.4m against the cap this year under the 5th year option so you'd like to extend him to lower that cap hit.  Benford meanwhile only has a $1.1 cap hit next year.  If I were Beane I'd try to re-sign him but Benford may want to bet on himself to maximize his value.

[Pete]

22 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Not even being named a pro bowl alternate would make me thinks he plays the final year of his deal in order to put another year on tape to maximize his value.  Rousseau will count $13.4m against the cap this year under the 5th year option so you'd like to extend him to lower that cap hit.  Benford meanwhile only has a $1.1 cap hit next year.  If I were Beane I'd try to re-sign him but Benford may want to bet on himself to maximize his value.

I would extend both asap.  We know Benford is a top 5 CB, even though the rest of the league snubbed him.  By only making 1.1 million a year, that is a bargaining chip.  Pay him now before the rest of the league realizes how good he is.  Rousseau must get resigned.  Both Benford and Rousseau are young studs that should be cornerstones for the Bills, the next 5+ years.

Edited Saturday at 11:12 AM by Pete

[CoudyBills]

On 1/3/2025 at 12:18 AM, mannc said:

I didn’t say it was illegal…but it was a cheap shot.  The defender was engaged with two other blockers and Dawkins blindsided him.  Kinda the definition of a cheap shot…certainly nothing to be proud of.

It's football, not the honor guard.

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

I would extend both asap.  We know Benford is a top 5 CB, even though the rest of the league snubbed him.  By only making 1.1 million a year, that is a bargaining chip.  Pay him now before the rest of the league realizes how good he is.  Rousseau must get resigned.  Both Benford and Rousseau are young studs that should be cornerstones for the Bills, the next 5+ years.

The rest of the league already knows he's good.  That's why organizations pay scouts.  It's really up to Benford and his willingness to bet on himself.

[NewEra]

On 1/2/2025 at 12:16 PM, BearNorth said:

The Baldy breakdown on the combined Von/Rousseau sack, makes me wonder what KC will have to do with their troubles at tackle?

Haven’t they moved Thunder out to tackle?  Or was that only for a game?

[eball]

On 1/2/2025 at 6:15 PM, mannc said:

Looked like kind of a cheap shot to me…I know Dion hates the Jets…

 

If he had hit him low it would have been a cheap shot and penalty.  What he did was perfectly legal (and filthy).

 

[mannc]

44 minutes ago, eball said:

 

If he had hit him low it would have been a cheap shot and penalty.  What he did was perfectly legal (and filthy).

 

Again, I never said it was illegal, although you could convince me that it was, under modern NFL rules.  Dawkins blindsided a guy who was already engaged with not one, but two, other blockers, away from the ball.  In any event, it was hardly a play to be celebrated.

[machine gun kelly]

On 1/2/2025 at 1:54 PM, freddyjj said:

Some actually hysterical footage:

 

His take on Dawkins looking for work

His takes on Greg Rousseau as game disruptor and when Rousseau and Von Miller hit the Daily Double!

Enjoy!

Freddy, if other guys haven’t thanked you for finding Baldy’s breakdown enough, I’m thanking you.  I love his analysis as he’s pretty objective so he doesn’t seem to do the hot take crap so many others do on the tv shows.

[machine gun kelly]

On 1/2/2025 at 6:15 PM, mannc said:

Looked like kind of a cheap shot to me…I know Dion hates the Jets…

Respectfully you must have never played or coached competitive football.  You play until the whistle is blown.  If Dawkins were to kick him after the play, that’s a cheap shot.  Playing til the whistle is the definition of football.  There is nothing cheap about it.

[mannc]

30 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Respectfully you must have never played or coached competitive football.  

Wrong.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

44 minutes ago, mannc said:

Again, I never said it was illegal, although you could convince me that it was, under modern NFL rules.  Dawkins blindsided a guy who was already engaged with not one, but two, other blockers, away from the ball.  In any event, it was hardly a play to be celebrated.

 

Looks to me like it meets the spirit of the crackback block rule although not the literal definition.  

 

Article 6. Crackback Block

 

Item 1. Definition. It is an illegal crackback block if the following conditions are fulfilled:

 

The block occurs within an area five yards on either side of the line of scrimmage, including within close-line play, by an offensive player who is moving toward the position from which the ball was snapped; and

 

(a) the offensive player was in a set position and aligned more than two yards outside an offensive tackle (flexed) when the ball was snapped;

 

(b)the offensive player was in a backfield position when the ball was snapped and moved to a position more than two yards outside an offensive tackle; or

 

(c)the offensive player was in a backfield position and in motion when the ball was snapped.

 

Dawkins clearly meets the first part of the rule, but doesn't quite meet part A or B. Maybe you could argue for part B with how far back tackles are allowed to lineup nowadays haha

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

10 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Looks to me like it meets the spirit of the crackback block rule although not the literal definition.  

 

Article 6. Crackback Block

 

Item 1. Definition. It is an illegal crackback block if the following conditions are fulfilled:

 

The block occurs within an area five yards on either side of the line of scrimmage, including within close-line play, by an offensive player who is moving toward the position from which the ball was snapped; and

 

(a) the offensive player was in a set position and aligned more than two yards outside an offensive tackle (flexed) when the ball was snapped;

 

(b)the offensive player was in a backfield position when the ball was snapped and moved to a position more than two yards outside an offensive tackle; or

 

(c)the offensive player was in a backfield position and in motion when the ball was snapped.

 

Dawkins clearly meets the first part of the rule, but doesn't quite meet part A or B. Maybe you could argue for part B with how far back tackles are allowed to lineup nowadays haha

 

Non of a, b,c are true. Dawkins IS the OT. By definition he can't be more than two yards outside the offensive tackle. 

[Coach Tuesday]

12 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Sooooffftttttt

 

just messing around man. You may think it’s cheap and I respect your opinion. I just disagree.  Between the whistles like that is something that is coached up and encouraged on the LOS. I would 100% bet he got a ton of props for this from teammates for a play like that. 

Cheap shot in the sense that he didn’t have to work for that block at all - so it’s not worth pointing out on a clinic tape like Baldy did.  Dawkins had many great plays in that game but pancaking a defender who was engaged with two other blockers after the play was basically over is not an example of elite line play.  Anyone off the street could do that.

 

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

The rest of the league already knows he's good.  That's why organizations pay scouts.  It's really up to Benford and his willingness to bet on himself.

If he’s really trying to maximize his dollars he’ll try to shop himself as a man corner.  He put good tape out there this year because the Bills have played a decent amount of man coverage (probably bc they’ve felt they had to blitz more because their line wasn’t winning).  And when they did he really held up.  He would be paid many millions more as an island corner.

 

 

On 1/3/2025 at 3:24 AM, Doc Brown said:

Groot is the only must sign this off-season imo.  I don't want to play the tag game with him.  One of the best in the league rushing the passer and defending the run.

Paying him will be fascinating.  He is on a slow but steady upward trajectory to greatness but still isn’t there yet - he’s not being game planned against yet.  But someone will be willing to pay him a ludicrous sum because he is on the cusp of greatness.  

Edited Saturday at 02:54 PM by Coach Tuesday