Mikie2times Posted Thursday at 05:58 PM Posted Thursday at 05:58 PM He is becoming the Ertz of defense 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted Thursday at 05:59 PM Posted Thursday at 05:59 PM 57 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: Yes if he's still able to get a rush and therein lies the problem. 1.5 sacks this season 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Thursday at 06:02 PM Posted Thursday at 06:02 PM 13 minutes ago, Doc said: He started off a JAG... yet he was coveted by many here over the years, given his thread count... 1 Quote
Doc Posted Thursday at 06:02 PM Posted Thursday at 06:02 PM 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Not too many JAG's average 9.5 sacks over their first 4 seasons. Just saying. JAG as in Jaguar. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Thursday at 06:02 PM Posted Thursday at 06:02 PM 15 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Yeah, the guy has 9 tackles 0 sacks and 2 QB hits in 6 games playing 40% of the snaps and just got released by the team challenging for the #1 pick in the draft. What are you seeing? I didn't know his stats Quote
Dan Posted Thursday at 06:03 PM Posted Thursday at 06:03 PM 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: So the guy was just waived for a boneheaded roughing the passer decision; he hasn't been impactful enough for the Patriots to overlook it - 9 tackles and 2 QB hits in 6 games where he played like 40% of the snaps - and you want to bring him in here? Dude. For comparison, Dawuane Smoot has 16 tackles and 4 QB hits in 10 games, 29% of the snaps. I'm thinking Baltimore waived him in November for a reason. The only position where I'm hoping Beane and his minions are speed-scrutinizing the waiver wire and other team's practice squads is LB because right now if Bernard can't go we're kind of hosed. I do NOT want to see Dorian Williams trying to play MLB. Why the Dorian hate? Even though he hasn't started since Milano came back from injury, he's still the leading tackler on the team. I feel very comfortable with Dorian Williams starting in the playoffs. And depending on the opponent and situation, I think he's better than Milano. i do agree though… we need Bernard healthy for the playoffs, regardless. 4 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Thursday at 06:16 PM Posted Thursday at 06:16 PM 2019 me would be super excited for this thread. 2025 me doesnt give a rats ass. 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted Thursday at 06:16 PM Posted Thursday at 06:16 PM 13 minutes ago, Dan said: Why the Dorian hate? Even though he hasn't started since Milano came back from injury, he's still the leading tackler on the team. I feel very comfortable with Dorian Williams starting in the playoffs. And depending on the opponent and situation, I think he's better than Milano. i do agree though… we need Bernard healthy for the playoffs, regardless. Dorian Williams is going to be a star. 1 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted Thursday at 06:17 PM Posted Thursday at 06:17 PM I could see Detroit taking a stab at him 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted Thursday at 06:22 PM Posted Thursday at 06:22 PM 1 hour ago, boyst said: whats A-aron Dar-arnold up to? damn you for making me even lust for this never happening idea 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted Thursday at 06:27 PM Posted Thursday at 06:27 PM I’m shocked he’s still even in the league. He’s been washed forever. I’d rather have Bruce than him. 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted Thursday at 06:28 PM Posted Thursday at 06:28 PM 23 minutes ago, Dan said: Why the Dorian hate? Even though he hasn't started since Milano came back from injury, he's still the leading tackler on the team. I feel very comfortable with Dorian Williams starting in the playoffs. And depending on the opponent and situation, I think he's better than Milano. i do agree though… we need Bernard healthy for the playoffs, regardless. Dorian is a very good "see ball, get ball player" but where he pales in comparison to Milano is instincts as to where to be and how to position himself for what is "about to happen" to either prevent it or make a play on the ball. Dorian is a good player, especially against the run when he can come downhill, and in some ways reminds me a lot of Nigel Bradham in terms of his physicality, but he gives up a lot in coverage. Quote
Augie Posted Thursday at 06:34 PM Posted Thursday at 06:34 PM 11 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: damn you for making me even lust for this never happening idea That’s how lust seems to go for me, too. 🤷♂️ Quote
Dan Posted Thursday at 06:35 PM Posted Thursday at 06:35 PM 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Dorian is a very good "see ball, get ball player" but where he pales in comparison to Milano is instincts as to where to be and how to position himself for what is "about to happen" to either prevent it or make a play on the ball. Dorian is a good player, especially against the run when he can come downhill, and in some ways reminds me a lot of Nigel Bradham in terms of his physicality, but he gives up a lot in coverage. Agreed… hence it depends on the opponent/situation that I would favor him over Milano. And that can also be hedged with… Milano currently. Pre injury! Milano was the best LB on the team. But he’s still got quite a ways to go to get back to that level of play. Quote
Magox Posted Thursday at 06:53 PM Posted Thursday at 06:53 PM The Bills will be employing more 3 LB defensive formations during the playoffs and if they play the Ravens it will be used quite extensively, Dorian will see a lot of playing time and will most likely not have as many reps dropping back into zone coverage as Bernard or Milano. Im thinking on passing downs he will be used as a spy on Lamar and rush him when he sees opportunities 1 Quote
BringBackFergy Posted Thursday at 07:18 PM Posted Thursday at 07:18 PM Clowney and Ngockway…27 different teams in five years. The epitome of “cool name, no production, locker room paycheck grab”. 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM Isn't Buffalo the only team he hasn't played for yet ? ... Seems he's always being cut. Quote
GunnerBill Posted Thursday at 07:27 PM Posted Thursday at 07:27 PM J.A.G. Seven teams in four seasons. Quote
Beck Water Posted Thursday at 07:33 PM Posted Thursday at 07:33 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Dan said: Why the Dorian hate? Even though he hasn't started since Milano came back from injury, he's still the leading tackler on the team. I feel very comfortable with Dorian Williams starting in the playoffs. And depending on the opponent and situation, I think he's better than Milano. i do agree though… we need Bernard healthy for the playoffs, regardless. I have no hate for Dorian at all. But let's be realistic - he's a 2nd year guy just learning to play the OLB position on the Bills. He was observed to be in the wrong gap or out of position on a number of plays. That's not hate, it is what it is. It's his first year playing, first year players make mistakes. I want to see him succeed, and see the Bills succeed, and needing to play Williams at a position he's never played as far as I can tell (MLB) and where one of his duties would be to call the plays and get the other players into position - in a playoff game (!!!!!)- is not the path for success either for him, OR for the Bills. If he has to start at OLB, OK - he did that for most of the season. But not at MLB, not wearing the green dot and calling the plays. As far as "better than Milano", well, you have your thoughts and I have mine. I will say this - he's different than Milano. Williams is fast and a good tackler. If he recognizes the play and knows where he ought to be, he's fine. That's an "if" though. And we're coming into the playoffs, where the teams we'll be playing are the masters of offensive misdirection and disguise. Milano is rarely fooled and usually the fastest or one of the fastest to diagnose a play post snap. But coming back from a year(+) off, he isn't able to react on instinct yet. He has to see-decode-go and it makes him a step slow. Combine that with still recovering from the bicep surgery and he's not as sound of a tackler. But he misses tackles because he's in the right place just a fraction slow of the right time. Williams doesn't miss the tackles he's in position to make but he isn't always within tackle radius of where he needs to be. Edited Thursday at 07:38 PM by Beck Water Quote
FLFan Posted Thursday at 07:36 PM Posted Thursday at 07:36 PM 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: We need a pass rush in the playoffs esp if we see KC and or Cinci Yes but he is not even close to an answer. 1 Quote
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