Pro Bowl Voting

[BRH]

11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Jackson has 39 td to 4 int, 4,000 passing yards, 121.6 qb rating l, 852 yards rushing, and 4 tds. He’s having a historically great season. 

 

can we stop pretending like it’s some crazy conspiracy that some media is “hyping” up Jackson unfairly? Allen or Jackson are both more than worthy of being MVP. 

 

 

Literally every single ESPN segment over the last two weeks has been completely in the tank for Lamar, with at least one voter (Kimes) going so far as to reveal her actual vote.  And that started within minutes after Baltimore rolled Houston.  

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

Just now, BRH said:

 

Literally every single ESPN segment over the last two weeks has been completely in the tank for Lamar, with at least one voter (Kimes) going so far as to reveal her actual vote.  And that started within minutes after Baltimore rolled Houston.  

I think the average viewer would be shocked at what transpires behind the scenes in production meetings where all the "real" bosses make themselves known.

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

how are Jackson and Burrow more "popular" than Josh right now?  

They're not.  I was wrong.

[BRH]

One talking head (I think RC but can't recall) went so far as to say that because (supposedly) none of Lamar's interceptions were "his fault," he could be treated as though he hasn't thrown any picks at all.  I don't remember Josh, or anyone really, getting that kind of treatment.  And of course they were all silent on Lamar's 10 fumbles (5 lost) -- twice as many as Josh -- which means he has more turnovers this year (9) than Josh (8).  Lamar has also lost 149 yards on 23 sacks this year (6.5 average) compared to Josh's 63 yards lost on 14 sacks (4.5 average).

 

And one guy (I think Foxworth) even said you shouldn't "penalize" Lamar for having Derrick Henry.  🤯  And Bart Scott and Shannon Sharpe - not surprisingly, former Ravens - well, you can actually see how angry both of them get whenever anyone dares to suggest that someone else might be deserving.

[TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th]

37 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

Literally every single ESPN segment over the last two weeks has been completely in the tank for Lamar, with at least one voter (Kimes) going so far as to reveal her actual vote.  And that started within minutes after Baltimore rolled Houston.  

They did the same thing in 2023 when they wanted Embiid over Jokic for the NBA MVP.

[Mr. WEO]

8 minutes ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

They did the same thing in 2023 when they wanted Embiid over Jokic for the NBA MVP.

 

 

lol Embiid's a bum.  He's done

[Comebackkid]

https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-pro-bowl-games-snubs-baker-mayfield-danielle-hunter-among-players-left-out

 

pretty good list of snubbed players as well....aka mahomes and cook.   

at least peeps recognized mahomes didnt do that much this year.  

[Comebackkid]

6 hours ago, Mango said:

By my eye Mack Hollins is our best ST player by a giant margin. I get it, nobody pays attention to gunners across the league. But at the same time Hollins has been amazing in kick coverage for us and not getting any votes is a criminal. 

yeah he seems to do everything well.  not sure how cole got on there being a back up 

[familykwi]

23 hours ago, Comebackkid said:

Interesting what the pro bowl has become.   

I think the Bills with 5 players total in the top 10, Josh the highest 

rated at 4... <---  #4 if you can believe that.

 

Also interesting is no james cook and cole bishop showing up on special teams. 

 

https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1874175185722724637

 

The pro bowl is unwatchable.  it only matters towards player contract incentives.

 

I'm hoping the Bills have better things to do that weekend anyway

[Scott7975]

Best thing about this is Nick Wright is losing his mind over Mahomes not being selected to the Pro Bowl. Thats an auto win in my book.

[Sierra Foothills]

On 1/2/2025 at 7:47 AM, Mango said:

By my eye Mack Hollins is our best ST player by a giant margin. I get it, nobody pays attention to gunners across the league. But at the same time Hollins has been amazing in kick coverage for us and not getting any votes is a criminal. 

 

And how about his return of the onside kick? A great special teams play.

 

On 1/2/2025 at 8:52 AM, MJS said:

Yeah. I think Spencer Brown has been just as dominant, if not more so this year, but he doesn't have the name recognition or the personality.

 

I get the feeling that ole' Spencer is not well-liked by opposing players.

 

He looks like he's always trying to beat people up during the play and talk trash after the play.

 

That's probably not the best way to win a popularity contest. 😆

 

[MJS]

1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said:

I get the feeling that ole' Spencer is not well-liked by opposing players.

 

He looks like he's always trying to beat people up during the play and talk trash after the play.

 

That's probably not the best way to win a popularity contest. 😆

That kind of stuff WINS you respect as an offensive lineman.

[Sierra Foothills]

On 1/2/2025 at 8:52 AM, MJS said:

Yeah. I think Spencer Brown has been just as dominant, if not more so this year, but he doesn't have the name recognition or the personality.

 

9 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

I get the feeling that ole' Spencer is not well-liked by opposing players.

He looks like he's always trying to beat people up during the play and talk trash after the play.

That's probably not the best way to win a popularity contest. 😆

 

7 hours ago, MJS said:

That kind of stuff WINS you respect as an offensive lineman.

 

Of course.

 

Being respected and being liked are not the same thing and if you dislike someone, you're probably not gonna vote for them.

 

[C.Biscuit97]

On 1/2/2025 at 2:46 PM, BRH said:

 

Literally every single ESPN segment over the last two weeks has been completely in the tank for Lamar, with at least one voter (Kimes) going so far as to reveal her actual vote.  And that started within minutes after Baltimore rolled Houston.  

some of you love being victims. 

On 1/3/2025 at 12:25 AM, Scott7975 said:

Best thing about this is Nick Wright is losing his mind over Mahomes not being selected to the Pro Bowl. Thats an auto win in my book.

You know it’s a total act right? It’s amazing how people even these professionals trolls like Wright, Bayless, Cowherd, etc. you are the reason they make so much money being awful. 

[C.Biscuit97]

On 1/2/2025 at 3:26 PM, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

They did the same thing in 2023 when they wanted Embiid over Jokic for the NBA MVP.

So you know what TV does? It tries to create stories and points that will make people watch. Saying Jokic, who is super boring, should win the MVP every year (and he probably should) is boring TV. Saying Allen should win mvp all year is boring tv.  I find those shows stupid and I don’t watch but it’s how they suck in people to watch. 
 

if Allen would the mvp last year, Jackson would be the favorite this year. That’s why Allen is going go to win it this year. But to act like it’s an outrage than a qb who is having one of the great seasons ever is being discussed is completely insane. Buffalo fans need to stop the victim mentality. We are too good for that now. 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

some of you love being victims. 

You know it’s a total act right? It’s amazing how people even these professionals trolls like Wright, Bayless, Cowherd, etc. you are the reason they make so much money being awful. 

 

Not talking about just them. I'm also not being any victim. I find it hilarious in some aspects and disgusting in others. Im not allowed to discuss that stuff though.

[GoBills808]

On 1/2/2025 at 10:16 AM, BRH said:

One talking head (I think RC but can't recall) went so far as to say that because (supposedly) none of Lamar's interceptions were "his fault," he could be treated as though he hasn't thrown any picks at all.  I don't remember Josh, or anyone really, getting that kind of treatment.  And of course they were all silent on Lamar's 10 fumbles (5 lost) -- twice as many as Josh -- which means he has more turnovers this year (9) than Josh (8).  Lamar has also lost 149 yards on 23 sacks this year (6.5 average) compared to Josh's 63 yards lost on 14 sacks (4.5 average).

 

And one guy (I think Foxworth) even said you shouldn't "penalize" Lamar for having Derrick Henry.  🤯  And Bart Scott and Shannon Sharpe - not surprisingly, former Ravens - well, you can actually see how angry both of them get whenever anyone dares to suggest that someone else might be deserving.

Foxworthy for all the nonsense he says is correct. You can't penalize Lamar for having better players around him. That's a credit to the Ravens front office and not a slight against the QB

 

People need to realize acknowledging Allen has less to work w on offense is not a knock on Lamar.