Who to bring up from PS this week?

[KCNC]

4 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Gore to take a lot of carries. I want all three backs to be available for the playoffs.   And the. Mike white.   You only get two.  The typical inactive guys will be active. 

my thoughts exactly

[Freddie's Dead]

9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

You can call up players 3 times, not twice.

 

that isnt correct. Its if they want them after 3 times, they would have to be signed.

 

OK, fair enough.  I heard it different on the radio today.

[paulmm3]

More than anything I'd like to see two PS OL elevations so we can rest our entire starting OL

[gonzo1105]

Yea a lot of incorrect info early on in this thread. Guys can be called up 3 times and sent back, its the 4th time that they have to be added. Jalen Virgil being our example this year of that happening. Plus its the last week and it resets for the playoffs to unlimited so basically anyone who hasn't been called up 3 times already is eligible for this weeks game.

[NoSaint]

6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I think Hamler might be the only WR who can be called up. Shavers has been called up twice. I'm pretty sure Virgil has been called up twice as well, in between his stint on the 53.

 

Samuel has been out for a couple weeks now and appears ready to go. So i'd expect him to be taking most of the snaps to get him back. Hollins and Coleman (who's also just getting back in the swing of things as well after injuries) will also probably get a lot of play.

 

White makes a lot of sense. But I think he's also been called up twice. So that might put us in a precarious situation where we have no choice but to put Allen back in if Trubisky gets hurt.

 

 

That's not going to happen.

 

I took a lot of flack for suggesting Hyde is likely to not see the field at all and was just brought on as a player coach and to possibly get a ring. As time has gone on, it really seems that's the case.

 

Our Safety core has been decimated with both starters injured at the same time. Kareem Jackson and Lewis Cine were both called up twice since Hyde's been brought in. If there's a Safety injured in the Playoffs, I really think you'll see one of them come in. If you read between the lines of things both McDermott and Hyde have said, it really doesn't seem like playing him was ever in the cards.

 

 

then pay him as a coach and give the spot to someone else 

 

either his spot is in the field or it’s not as a player

[Big Turk]

Mike White has to be one of them since you need a backup QB since Allen won't be taking any reps after he hands the ball off on the first play

[Richard Noggin]

Would playing Hyde in a meaningless week 18 game alongside backups provide more value than risk? I don't think so. Micah Hyde has played enough high end football in this league to know if/when he's ready to go. 

 

I've consistently thought Hyde wouldn't want to bother coming back to WNY during the holidays and winter to work/practice six long days a week all just to be a poorly paid (relatively for a guy who made some millions) mentor/coach. I still think the ideal mutual plan is for him to be active eventually in the playoffs and fill a dime safety role.

 

The talk in 2024 has always suggested that Hyde rejoining the Bills late in the season was a potentiality all along. But if there's no plan for Hyde to ever play, then why the delay in signing and/or the eventual signing as a PLAYER (who could potentially affect the cap) rather than consultant or coach? Weird. 

 

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said:

Would playing Hyde in a meaningless week 18 game alongside backups provide more value than risk? I don't think so. Micah Hyde has played enough high end football in this league to know if/when he's ready to go. 

 

I've consistently thought Hyde wouldn't want to bother coming back to WNY during the holidays and winter to work/practice six long days a week all just to be a poorly paid (relatively for a guy who made some millions) mentor/coach. I still think the ideal mutual plan is for him to be active eventually in the playoffs and fill a dime safety role.

 

The talk in 2024 has always suggested that Hyde rejoining the Bills late in the season was a potentiality all along. But if there's no plan for Hyde to ever play, then why the delay in signing and/or the eventual signing as a PLAYER (who could potentially affect the cap) rather than consultant or coach? Weird. 

 

 

Really not that weird. He/they saw how the season was going and the level they were playing it. A Super Bowl ring looked at the time (and still could be) a very real situation.

 

So sign on at the end of the season on the PS just to be a part of it. Be in the building and the sidelines. Help bring along Cole Bishop and the Safety room. Boost team morale even further by being there. Get a ring. It's not about money.

 

If he really planned on playing and they really planned on him being a significant part of the team, he'd have been here sooner, would have been given a spot on the 53, and would have put him on the field by now or at least this weekend.

Edited Wednesday at 06:22 AM by BillsFanForever19

[Dr.Sack]

QB White 

RB Gore Jr 

 

 

[Big Turk]

58 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

Would playing Hyde in a meaningless week 18 game alongside backups provide more value than risk? I don't think so. Micah Hyde has played enough high end football in this league to know if/when he's ready to go. 

 

I've consistently thought Hyde wouldn't want to bother coming back to WNY during the holidays and winter to work/practice six long days a week all just to be a poorly paid (relatively for a guy who made some millions) mentor/coach. I still think the ideal mutual plan is for him to be active eventually in the playoffs and fill a dime safety role.

 

The talk in 2024 has always suggested that Hyde rejoining the Bills late in the season was a potentiality all along. But if there's no plan for Hyde to ever play, then why the delay in signing and/or the eventual signing as a PLAYER (who could potentially affect the cap) rather than consultant or coach? Weird. 

 

 

McD said that is not happening.

[sirebors]

41 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Really not that weird. He/they saw how the season was going and the level they were playing it. A Super Bowl ring looked at the time (and still could be) a very real situation.

 

So sign on at the end of the season on the PS just to be a part of it. Be in the building and the sidelines. Help bring along Cole Bishop and the Safety room. Boost team morale even further by being there. Get a ring. It's not about money.

 

If he/they really planned on playing him, he'd have been here sooner, would have been given a spot on the 53 and would have put him on the field by now or at least this weekend.

You get a ring as a coach as well. He would prefer to get a ring as a practice squad player that contributed absolutely nothing in the playoffs? Kind of confusing to me as well. If you're not going to use him, then sign his as a coach. Sign someone else to the practice squad that you actually intend on using. I find it hard to believe that he's not going to play at all. 

[Rocky Landing]

8 hours ago, TPS said:

Given they will rest some key starters, and they can only bring two up from the PS, who do you think they will bring up this last week? 

The two positions I think they need more than others:

1.  QB: bring White up to backup Trubisky, as I don't think you want JA going back in if Trubisky got hurt. 

2. WR: with only 5 on the 53, this is a strong possibility too, as you don't want Cooper and Shakir risking injury.  Hamler maybe?

 

That said, the person I'd like to see them bring up is Cine, as I'd like to see what he can do.  

 

 

 

I agree on Cine. He was elevated on Sunday vs. the Jets, but inactive. But I'd love to see him on the field. I'm kinda disappointed he hasn't been worked in as of yet. Seemed like he might have potential.

[Richard Noggin]

45 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Really not that weird. He/they saw how the season was going and the level they were playing it. A Super Bowl ring looked at the time (and still could be) a very real situation.

 

So sign on at the end of the season on the PS just to be a part of it. Be in the building and the sidelines. Help bring along Cole Bishop and the Safety room. Boost team morale even further by being there. Get a ring. It's not about money.

 

If he really planned on playing and they really planned on him being a significant part of the team, he'd have been here sooner, would have been given a spot on the 53, and would have put him on the field by now or at least this weekend.

 

First two paragraphs are fair or at least possible even if I don't want to agree.

 

But the last section is just too rigid and presumptive imho. Hyde might have had very real life plans and/or physical limitations and long term rest/recovery timelines in place that made him unable to even think about being ready over the summer or even well into Q4. We've seen more late season additions in recent years than I recall previously (could be wrong), but it feels like veterans at the ends of their careers lately have this more restful and unconventional path to joining proven contenders down the stretch if the timing and fit seems mutually beneficial. Think of Eric Waddle joining the Rams for their SB run as a much more extreme example. 

 

The meaningless game against the Patriots in which the Bills will be playing so many backups doesn't seem like valuable experience for a 12th year 2x All Pro. But I could be wrong. 

[BillsFanForever19]

13 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

First two paragraphs are fair or at least possible even if I don't want to agree.

 

But the last section is just too rigid and presumptive imho. Hyde might have had very real life plans and/or physical limitations and long term rest/recovery timelines in place that made him unable to even think about being ready over the summer or even well into Q4. We've seen more late season additions in recent years than I recall previously (could be wrong), but it feels like veterans at the ends of their careers lately have this more restful and unconventional path to joining proven contenders down the stretch if the timing and fit seems mutually beneficial. Think of Eric Waddle joining the Rams for their SB run as a much more extreme example. 

 

The meaningless game against the Patriots in which the Bills will be playing so many backups doesn't seem like valuable experience for a 12th year 2x All Pro. But I could be wrong. 

 

Since he's been signed, over the past month, we've needed to do four Safety call up's. We've had both starting Safeties out in back to back weeks. They called up Kareem Jackson twice and Lewis Cine twice.

 

When asked of Hyde's role on the team after the signing, McDermott verbatim said "not much". After that he's repeatedly said his role is to "help the team". You look at the Patriots game as a "meaningless game". That's the exact situation you would get him out on the field to evaluate where he's at. Waddle, as you said, was an extreme case of practically not having a choice. If they had the opportunity to get him some reps before the Super Bowl, they absolutely would have.

 

As long as he's on the roster, it's not a *total* impossibility. But this is an extremely conservative staff. The idea that they'd just put him on the field in the Playoffs a year removed from being on the field (where he performed poorly btw), when they desperately needed help and didn't play him, and now have essentially a Pre-Season game where they can get him some live action to get his feet under him with this year's Defense, as well as evaluate where he's at, and still won't play him - seems pretty far fetched to me. 

 

I guess we'll see. You seem to really want it, so I hope you get to see it. But I'm far from the only person who's reading this writing on the wall.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 08:17 PM by BillsFanForever19

[jwhit34]

They can only bring up 2 from practice squad. 

 

Mike White is almost a lock.

 

Gilliam will get a bunch of handoffs so no need for Gore Jr. This was previewed on Sunday vs. Jets.

 

While a DB would be nice, I am hoping it is Will Clapp or Richard Gouriage. That way they can sit all 5 starting OL. The line from left to right would be Grable-Anderson-Van Pran-Clapp-Van Demark. 

 

They have plenty on DL and the LBs can be Morrow, Andreesson and Eddie U.

 

[BearNorth]

8 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Mike White has to be one of them since you need a backup QB since Allen won't be taking any reps after he hands the ball off on the first play

Can't they designate him as a 3rd Emergency QB? or is that only in case of injury?  Of course Josh has been playing hurt most of the season so there's that as well.

[BuffaloBillyG]

With this team always expect the unexpected. They will end up calling no one up.

[Big Turk]

13 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

Can't they designate him as a 3rd Emergency QB? or is that only in case of injury?  Of course Josh has been playing hurt most of the season so there's that as well.

 

No because he would need to be on the active roster to do that.

[Magox]

12 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Guys I wouldn’t risk injuring: Josh, all 3 RB’s, both tight ends, Cooper, Shakir, all 5 starting OL, Von, Groot, Oliver, Epenesa, Daquan, Milano, Bernard, Taron, both starting CB’s, Rapp, and maybe Lewis and Ingram.  

 

That leaves Trubisky, Gilliam, practice squad RB, Anderson, Van Pran, Vandemark, 2 practice squad OL, Hollins, Coleman, Shavers, Virgil, Morris, Davidson. 

Then Smoot, Carter, Jefferson, Solomon, 2 practice squad DL, buffalo joe, Dorian, Morrow, Ulofishio, Elam, Codrington, Ingram or Lewis, Bishop, practice squad DB.  

If you only get 3 call-ups, I’m doing them all on offense and playing both ingram and lewis and Phillips. 

Milano needs the reps.  He’s almost there, just needs a little bit more game pt to speed up his mental processing

[BearNorth]

I think we are limited to two elevations per week.

 

Some starters are going to have to play some snaps.

 

Can't imagine McD will send Josh out there for the opening series without the starting O-Line.

 

Not sure if some players have playing snap % incentives that they have to reach, that has meant players have played in the past.