Joe Brady has created the NFL version of "Total Football" - it's historic

[BADOLBILZ]

27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have not ignored my opinion about Josh being wrong. Not ever. It is fully accepted. As for Daboll.... I didn't hail him as a genius. I said he was a good offensive coordinator here. He was. So is Brady. Dorsey wasn't horrible, he started quite promisingly. But it went downhill fast.

 

 

Yeah I respect the process that you use to come to your opinions I am just using your own logic against you.    

 

The piece you seem to give no merit to yet is the concept that there are things that you don't know that you don't know.

 

Like regarding my allegiance to Miami.   I don't play favorite to a player because they played for Miami.   I may just know more about them than you learn from looking at cut-up game tape.

 

Like last year you had a good pretty ranking on CB Tyrique Stevenson coming out.   If you look at his tape you see physical potential.   But if you knew what happened between those plays you would know that the guy is a knucklehead and a culture problem.   He was a UDFA to me.  Off-the-board.

 

DT Leonard Taylor, on the other hand, he played 2022 on cruise control so his tape looked like sh!t.   But it wasn't an attitude problem, he was simply trying to survive on a bad team and get to the draft.   He grossly miscalculated that his 5 star status would get him picked on day 2 at least.  But he's not a bad guy.  The Jets got an absolute steal with him.  

 

This is stuff you don't know if you are just watching tape or relying on opinions of a scout you might now who is spread way too thin.

 

Another example is you thinking that Ken Dorsey's tantrum after lil' Dummy totally blew that game in Miami a couple years ago was outrageous.   I sit about 15 feet directly in front of Brady and Babich.  They get angry and frustrated too.   After the Dorsey incident they know to turn their back to the camera which makes the footage unusable.   They aren't on the sideline it's not the same as if McD shows emotion.    

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah I respect the process that you use to come to your opinions I am just using your own logic against you.    

 

The piece you seem to give no merit to yet is the concept that there are things that you don't know that you don't know.

 

Like regarding my allegiance to Miami.   I don't play favorite to a player because they played for Miami.   I may just know more about them than you learn from looking at cut-up game tape.

 

Like last year you had a good pretty ranking on CB Tyrique Stevenson coming out.   If you look at his tape you see physical potential.   But if you knew what happened between those plays you would know that the guy is a knucklehead and a culture problem.   He was a UDFA to me.  Off-the-board.

 

DT Leonard Taylor, on the other hand, he played 2022 on cruise control so his tape looked like sh!t.   But it wasn't an attitude problem, he was simply trying to survive on a bad team and get to the draft.   He grossly miscalculated that his 5 star status would get him picked on day 2 at least.  But he's not a bad guy.  The Jets got an absolute steal with him.  

 

This is stuff you don't know if you are just watching tape or relying on opinions of a scout you might now who is spread way too thin.

 

Another example is you thinking that Ken Dorsey's tantrum after lil' Dummy totally blew that game in Miami a couple years ago was outrageous.   I sit about 15 feet directly in front of Brady and Babich.  They get angry and frustrated too.   After the Dorsey incident they know to turn their back to the camera which makes the footage unusable.   They aren't on the sideline it's not the same as if McD shows emotion.    

 

Oh I completely know there are things I don't know, especially when it comes to evaluating draft prospects. I only have the bits of film I can get my hands on and the time I have to go through it. I do have a small group of people I can message who might give me a little bit of intel but I don't overuse that, as you say - busy folks spread thin - they don't need to bombarded by questions from amateurs. 

 

I had a third on Stevenson in 23. I had a third on Taylor as well this past year. He was the highest graded player left on my board at the end of the draft. 

[ColoradoBills]

17 hours ago, BillytheKid said:

I think one of the most important things I have heard Josh say about Brady that I don’t hear all that often or maybe have never heard is that Brady talks to Josh about which plays he likes the best. 
 

Then he has Josh or himself talk to each receiver and running back about which plays they like to run the best and then he uses all of those for different situations in the game. 

Which makes a lot more sense than having them run plays they don’t like running or the players don’t think will work. Or having a coordinator try and force running certain plays that aren’t working or doing the same thing over and over again and the players not liking it. 
 

Helps the trust with the coaches and players more. 
 

You would think more coaches would do this. I’m sure teams obviously have discussions but I’m sure most places the OC runs whatever he wants whether his players like it or not which doesn’t seem to be the case with Brady. 

 

Evidently the OL is involved in this too.  It's a wonderful strategy.

 

With that in mind, Josh and by extension the entire team knows the regular season's goal is to get into the playoffs.

BUT the ultimate goal is success in the playoffs.  I am totally convinced that a lot of plays that worked during the season have

not been overused and are being saved for appropriate times that are coming.  Josh has confirmed this.

 

I will wait to see what Brady has in store for the playoffs.  I'm thinking it could be very special.

[Big Turk]

18 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

Really only the trick play stands out as on Brady. As noted he is running and getting hit less as tracked by PFR. I agree he’s had some nasty hits.

 

I think your story for Brady getting Josh hurt had more merit last year if I remember. He’s using Josh way less than that as this season is one of the lowest contact. So many of these hits are out of Brady’s control. He calls the play (and yeah the Baltimore one was a terrible one) but he can’t protect Josh from the booth if Josh puts on the cape (again this is happening less often).

 

Maybe there’s a per snap part to it cause all volume stats are sorta thrown by the ~1 game less in snaps Josh has played. 

 

I mean is there a QB that HASN'T taken hard hits during the season? Like where do people come up with this stuff as if Allen is the only QB that gets hit, which is pretty infrequently compared to other QBs?

 

You want a QB taking hits, go see Burrow, Joe or Stroud, CJ

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

Wouldn't it be total football?

[BADOLBILZ]

26 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I mean is there a QB that HASN'T taken hard hits during the season? Like where do people come up with this stuff as if Allen is the only QB that gets hit, which is pretty infrequently compared to other QBs?

 

You want a QB taking hits, go see Burrow, Joe or Stroud, CJ

 

 

And your claim is that Allen didn't suffer concussions in Baltimore or Houston because he was allowed to come back into the game.   So Tua didn't have a concussion because he came right back into the game against the Bills back in 2022 right?   

 

 

[Buffalo Boy]

On 12/30/2024 at 3:21 PM, Big Turk said:

 

That is irrelevant. All those other teams had all-time QB's as well. What separates this team is that there is nobody at an All-Pro or HOF caliber level on offense outside of Allen, whereas the other teams had multiple players at that level outside the QB.  

 

Effectively Allen is elevating the people around him at off the chart levels.

  Of course, add in the fact that there are no HOFers on D either ( you don’t get Miller, so don’t do it) and that’s a pretty damning indictment on our talent acquisition.

    But yeah, Brady knocked it outta the park this year. I second the Give him the HC job if we get bounced early.

[Nihilarian]

Ohhh Josh Allen is a god! YES, an Alien unicorn and one of a kind great QB! We all love him! 

 

Still, what some of you guys just don't get is with all that greatness in Allen for the 2023 season. The Buffalo Bills were 5-5 and about to go into the toilet under OC Ken Dorsey.

Then under new OC Joe Brady the Bills went on a 6 game tear and won a playoff game against Pittsburgh. Only to lose to the KC Chiefs (the SB champs) because of an injury depleted defense. A defense so severely injured that the starting LBer was going on vacation with his family two weeks earlier and even he was injured during the game and had to sit out awhile. 

 

https://thebuffalofanatics.com/2023-divisional-round-injury-report-buffalo-bills-vs-kansas-city-chiefs/

 

And Buffalo still only lost that playoff game by a missed FG. McD called the defensive plays that season and he was a miracle worker to keep the Bills so competitive that year. #4 in points allowed, #9 in yards allowed.  So to all the Bills fans that keep talking about getting rid of McD. The man is second to only Chiefs HC Andy Reid in wins over the last five years.

Anyone you replace him with will want to change the entire team to fit their idea of how things should be. You know, like Rex Ryan did to the Buffalo defense by taking the Buffalo D line with the #1 team in sacks to having those D line players drop into pass coverage so the crappy Bills LBers could rush the passer. 

 

13-3, #2 seed in the 2024 playoffs... count some freaking blessings! 

 

 

[TBBills Fan]

We did score more points this year than we ever have...right?

[C.Biscuit97]

1 - this model and the Chiefs will be the new receiving model going forward. Your big money qb will be asked to elevated castoffs and young guys with cheap contracts. You don’t have to deal with paying a diva, annoying, self centered WR a ton of money since they rarely are on SBs.

 

2 - your castoffs and young guys get locked down because you are playing better teams/ defenses and you can’t convert clutch situations because you don’t have a guy to go to (though Shakir could be that guy). 
 

it will be very interesting to see how it plays out. As a former wr, I can’t stand most of them because they are just about themselves but I’d be lying to say this isn’t a bit of a worry. 

[Rockinon]

On 12/30/2024 at 2:56 PM, Nihilarian said:

All well said!

 

I love Joe Brady as OC! Buffalo now has a formidable rushing attack, which they didn't have under the last two clowns. The run game is so darn important to keep the offense balanced. I only hope he pulls a Ben Johnson and chooses to stay in Buffalo.

 

He is my dream OC and I fear he will be stolen by some team looking to upgrade their HC/offense this offseason. Teams must be blind to not see what he has done here in Buffalo. 

 

Think of fewer turnovers from Josh this season. The power-run game, working with an extra O lineman, helps make Josh the most protected quarterback in the league, along with a top-two-run game.

 

Currently, the 2024 Buffalo Bills are #2 in points scored,#9 in yards, and #1 in the NFL in rushing TDs.  

I've been thinking about how the run game has enhanced the effectiveness of this years offense too and wonder how much Kromer has been an influence. Honestly, I think the Bills quietly have a very good group of position coaches and that was also true when Daball was here. Joe Brady isn't doing this by himself. Add in how special Josh Allen really is and Joe Brady is sitting in a very favorable position. I think Joe Brady isn't making the bone headed mistakes his predecessor did and that by itself making him look really good. I like him, but I'm not ready to make him out to be amongst the greatest offensive coaches in history. He simply hasn't been around long enough.