Joe Brady has created the NFL version of "Total Football" - it's historic

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, Lost said:

Brady has been very good.  Josh has been better.

 

A few things that still bug me with Brady.  

 

 

Running up the middle every first down.  He has improved in this regard in recent weeks.  

 

Running up the middle on every 2nd and short.   I'm not sure I have seen brady once call a deep shot downfield in this situation during his entire tenure.  

 

Overuse of the bubble screen to Shakir.   Teams were starting to read it and get a jump on the ball coming out of Josh's hand.   

Brady has called plays that Josh and teammates say they feel comfortable with. Josh had said so in almost every interview he has had when asked about him. I think times think Brady/Josh go to the well of what works to keep doing it. The key is developing plays off of those plays to allow your system to flourish. I think the offense has evolved as how many weeks did we chime in that we can't run a RB screen to save our lives and then all of sudden Ty Johnson breaks a few off. Also Samuel started looking like a weapon when he was forced to play.

[Since1981]

I can’t find any fault with Brady, O, 17

there is literally nothing anyone can say bad about this offense.

1. Bills 34 - Cardinals 28 (Sep 8, 2024)

2. Bills 47 - Jaguars 10 (Sep 23, 2024)

3. Bills 35 - Ravens 10 (Sep 29, 2024)

4. Bills 34 - Titans 10 (Oct 20, 2024)

5. Bills 31 - Seahawks 10 (Oct 27, 2024)

6. Bills 30 - Dolphins 27 (Nov 3, 2024)

7. Bills 30 - Colts 20 (Nov 10, 2024)

8. Bills 30 - Chiefs 21 (Nov 17, 2024)

9. Bills 35 - 49ers 10 (Dec 1, 2024)

10. Bills 42 - Lions 48 (Dec 15, 2024)

11. Bills 40 - Jets 14 (Dec 29, 2024)

 

seriously! that’s sick!

[BillsShredder83]

On 12/30/2024 at 12:34 PM, Big Turk said:

Joe Brady may very well go down as one of the greatest offensive minds in the history of football. He has done what no other team in the history of the NFL has done...become prolific in a historical context with no true #1 WR, no 1,000 yard WR and no 1,000 yard rusher thru 16 games.

 

Essentially, he has created the NFL version of "Total Football" that was pioneered by The Netherlands with their great "Orange Crush" teams of the 1970s with Johann Cruyff as their star. Anybody can be the "go to guy" in any given week, and anyone can make the key play.  You cannot simply "take away" one player, the Bills offense is diversified in a way that no other offense has been in the history of the NFL. Just like on those Netherland teams, they don't have true "positions" as thought of by other teams. People are lining up all over the place to create matchups that favor the BIlls dependent on who they are playing.

 

Think I am going too far?  I am not. Consider:

 

1. Points per drive. The 2024 Bills are averaging 3.12 points/drive - In the history of the NFL, only the 2007 Patriots have averaged more at 3.19.  The only other teams above 3 are the 2018 Chiefs, the 2013 Broncos and the 2001 Rams.  All of them featured multiple stars and HOF players.  We are essentially doing what the most prolific offenses in NFL history have done without the supporting casts to do it.
2. 2024 Bills tied an all-time NFL record with 8 straight 30+ point games.
3. 2024 Bills tied an all-time NFL record with 13 different players catching a TD pass.
4. 2024 Bills set a franchise record for most points and TDs in a season and have the highest points per game at 31.8 thru 16 games
5. Josh Allen leads the NFL in EPA/play
6. 2024 Bills set a franchise record for 40+ point games with 4
7. 2024 Bills set a franchise record for 30+ point games with 12

 

Brady is the very definition of doing more with less and doing it in ways where no one person can be keyed on by the defense, meaning they have to be prepared for anyone to beat them at anytime.  This was never more apparent than during the Lions game when Ty Johnson, a 3rd down RB was our leading receiver with over 100 yards, our "#1 WR" Amari Cooper wasn't even targeted and the Bills rolled up 559 yards of offense and 48 points and were so unstoppable that it forced the opposing coach to try a desperation onside kick with 12 minutes to go in the 4th quarter only down 10 points.

 

I am not sure there has ever been a better job done at OC in NFL history considering what Brady had to work with and how he fit together his gameplans to attack the opposing teams weaknesses and create an ever shifting target for who they would try to stop on offense.  The level of absurdity with how good this offense has been with a bunch of "no names" for the most part on it is absurd.  Patently absurd. If Brady does not win assistant coach of the year in the NFL, they should just throw the award away because it has no meaning.

Yes! Who can forget those legendary, uhhhh, Dutch..... Orangemen?  Lol sorry had to do it

 

I get your point and flexible offense has been majorly impressive this year!  Completely agree with the Ty Johnson Lion's game being the best executed gameplan of our season.  Who the heck saw that coming?  Even in hindsight Im blown away, but why not do that gameplan with Cook?  Not criticism at all, just saying even with the power of hindsight, its unclear what his evil genius was doing that day.

 

Bradys first season in Carolina was very much like this as well.  Teddy B at QB.  DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson, and Curtis Samuel were soooo close to each being 1k yard WR's, and none of them were considered ELITE at the time (DJ had a one 1100yd season before).  Robbie Anderson was a bum on the Jets, and has not done chit since then.  Oh they also did with with CMC missing all but the first 3 games of season.  So while Im not sure its the greatest NFL performance of all time, I dont think we can call it a total fluke or say Josh did all the legwork for Brady.

 

Cool post!

[colin]

2 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Though I have nothing to back this up with but my impressions, I agree with this.

 

I'd even go so far as to say that it seems like Dawson Knox gets open running free in the secondary at a higher percentage than does Kincaid.

 

It does make you wonder what's going on here.

 

Was Kincaid overrated or does Brady not utilize him effectively?

 

 

 

there has to be a way to get him effectively involved.

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, YattaOkasan said:

Can you provide the evidence for the beating Allen has taken?  Last year you did a good job talking about it with stats but I’m not seeing similar data. PFR has Josh taking fewer “hits” than any year 2018 (lower pressure %). Additionally Allen has less rushes than other year (plus Allen has slid better than before).  It seems he has protected Allen better over the whole season (your analysis of last year still being correct)

 

Yeah, it started out apparently breaking his left hand in the opener falling after running for a TD(I think that was the leap over Baker).  

 

He got BLASTED on that terrible trick play in Baltimore.  Clearly concussed and we were fortunate he didn't suffer an arm injury as well.  

 

He got BLASTED and appeared completely unconscious after another one of his worst all time hits in Houston the next week.   

 

Hit extremely hard and high while prone after the throw on the sideline numerous times in the Rams/Lions weeks...........had to go for X-Rays on his shoulder after the Lions game.

 

Those are the big one's that come immediately to mind.   We are used to the 100+ carries now......and take it for granted even though we shouldn't.  But it had been a while since he had anything that looked like an obvious concussion and he had 2 this year.  Since the 2019 home game against NE, to be exact.    

[BADOLBILZ]

8 hours ago, FireChans said:

I would argue a couple.

 

Ty Johnson had legitimately the best game of his career against Detroit.  That's partly how Brady deployed him that game, especially in certain packages and looks that we hadn't seen before.

 

I would say Cook has been optimized.  Going from 6 TD's to 17 TD's on 30 less touches is pretty impressive. 

 

Shakir has a career year on less snaps than last year. Sure his outrageous efficiency stats took a dip, but that's not a knock on Brady but a by-product of that being completely unsustainable on high usage.

 

Mack Hollins has been optimized. I don't think he's a good WR, at all. But he's making positive impacts the way he has been deployed, which is better than we can say about complete zeros like Sherfield and Harty who Dorsey had no idea how to use.

 

I think the OL is playing the best they ever have since 2020. That's partly Brady.

 

Josh has been optimized.  I believe part of that, the lion's share even is Josh, as well as the departure of Diggs but I find it hard to give no credit to Brady.

 

I'm not saying Brady is perfect. Samuel has obviously been a DISASTER for whatever reason, hurt or Brady has no idea what to do with him. Kincaid has been a complete disappointment too, but I didn't really love the pick anyway tbh.

 

I don't agree that this offensive talent is much better than 2022 or 2023. Or that the circumstances are much more ideal.  Hell, Brady has Mack Hollins as the WR leading the team in snaps. He had to integrate an actual good boundary WR midseason instead of having an entire offseason.

 

If you want to argue Dorsey was hamstrung a little bit by his talent constraints, I don't disagree. I do disagree it has been all rainbows for Brady. His best WR going into the season was a raw 2nd round rookie (who has missed significant time with injury). His new best WR wasn't in the building until October (and missed games with injury). His #1 WR on the field is Mack Hollins.

 

If the Bills were like 8th in points, there would be lots of good reasons why they stepped back this season, and most of them wouldn't be on the OC. They didn't, they are maybe better than ever. And Cooper is a large part of that imo as well as Josh taking another step but so is Brady.

 

 

So Ty Johnson and Cook I agree with.    Shakir optimized?  VERY debatable.  Kincaid, Knox, Samuel, Coleman, Cooper were clearly NOT optimized.  So not buying the optimization claim.

 

On Mack Hollins.........he is basically the same player he's always been IMO.   The Bills clearly initially thought they were going to be able to skate by with him outside......but he and Allen couldn't connect on the deep ball (did you forget that frustration early in the season?).   So I wouldn't say he optimized Hollins he just had to minimize his route tree after the Baltimore/Houston debacles forced the Cooper trade.

 

That said, Hollins brings something that Davis did not.   Most of the people on here don't go to camp so they didn't see the Bills always trying to develop Gabe into a big slot WR every camp.   Then they would try it in preseason and it wouldn't work and they'd give up.  In fact, the first time Allen and Davis took the field in a preseason game in 2023 he tried a quick slant to Gabe to start the first series, it hit him square in stride on the hands and bounced off for an INT.   And that was it for 2023.  Hollins is pretty useless deep but fits better in the tight formations because he's actually playable in the middle of the field.  Gabe was NOT.   Like I said, Gabe was a banana peel just waiting to be slipped on by any OC.  SO overrated.   The numbers don't lie.......when he was targeted Allen struggled.   His departure has been at least as much of a positive than the oft-talked up Diggs departure.

 

As for the constraints on Dorsey........it was real.  @GunnerBill claims that Dorsey was trying to fit square pegs into a round hole.  But he didn't choose the pegs.  McBeane were invested in Diggs and Davis and they didn't fit the "complementary football" approach that was suddenly necessary with McDermott's struggling defense(beginning in London).   The 3 prior games they averaged 38 points.  Diggs was trending toward a career year.  

 

But there were broad changes in how most teams were defensing explosive teams by mid-season last year.  It caused an offensive production drop around the league.  Brady didn't create the wheel he expanded on an adaptation that had already started in the Tampa game.   IMO they didn't do the same the next week against Denver because they thought it was going to be an easy W and perhaps wanted to save it for the Jets game.   But then McD cost them that Denver game.   It comes off to some like I am saying Dorsey was unfairly fired.   That's not the case.  My opinion of he and Brady was that they would be pretty interchangeable and the team needed a shakeup.  But it's not like Dorsey was terrible for half of a season.   It's an untrue narrative.  

Edited Wednesday at 02:30 AM by BADOLBILZ

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So Ty Johnson and Shakir I agree with.    Shakir optimized?  VERY debatable.  Kincaid, Knox, Samuel, Coleman, Cooper were clearly NOT optimized.  So not buying the optimization claim.

 

On Mack Hollins.........he is basically the same player he's always been IMO.   The Bills clearly initially thought they were going to be able to skate by with him outside......but he and Allen couldn't connect on the deep ball (did you forget that frustration early in the season?).   So I wouldn't say he optimized Hollins he just had to minimize his route tree after the Baltimore/Houston debacles forced the Cooper trade.

 

That said, Hollins brings something that Davis did not.   Most of the people on here don't go to camp so they didn't see the Bills always trying to develop Gabe into a big slot WR every camp.   Then they would try it in preseason and it wouldn't work and they'd give up.  In fact, the first time Allen and Davis took the field in a preseason game in 2023 he tried a quick slant to Gabe to start the first series, it hit him square in stride on the hands and bounced off for an INT.   And that was it for 2023.  Hollins is pretty useless deep but fits better in the tight formations because he's actually playable in the middle of the field.  Gabe was NOT.   Like I said, Gabe was a banana peel just waiting to be slipped on by any OC.  SO overrated.   The numbers don't lie.......when he was targeted Allen struggled.   His departure has been at least as much of a positive than the oft-talked up Diggs departure.

 

As for the constraints on Dorsey........it was real.  @GunnerBill claims that Dorsey was trying to fit square pegs into a round hole.  But he didn't choose the pegs.  McBeane were invested in Diggs and Davis and they didn't fit the "complementary football" approach that was suddenly necessary with McDermott's struggling defense(beginning in London).   The 3 prior games they averaged 38 points.  Diggs was trending toward a career year.  

 

But there were broad changes in how most teams were defensing explosive teams by mid-season last year.  It caused an offensive production drop around the league.  Brady didn't create the wheel he expanded on an adaptation that had already started in the Tampa game.   IMO they didn't do the same the next week against Denver because they thought it was going to be an easy W and perhaps wanted to save it for the Jets game.   But then McD cost them that Denver game.   It comes off to some like I am saying Dorsey was unfairly fired.   That's not the case.  My opinion of he and Brady was that they would be pretty interchangeable and the team needed a shakeup.  But it's not like Dorsey was terrible for half of a season.   It's an untrue narrative.  

 

Dorsey was not interchangeable. He had very poor play calling rhythm. Almost like a DJ that picks songs but plays them all in the wrong order and instead of building a night towards something and taking people on a journey, it just ends up as a bunch of songs all randomly played together with people wondering what's going on.

 

His spacing on pass plays was abysmal and helped cause a lot of interception issues with Allen because receivers were too close to each other which means that their defenders were also closer, meaning too many people around the ball when it was thrown.

 

There was a reason why the offense looked so disjointed under Dorsey so often and struggled to consistently score points. He simply lacked the "feel" for play calling that all the good ones have. Knowing when to call certain plays and when not to.  He also used almost no motion meaning that Allen had no easy answers pre-snap like he does under Brady.

 

You can say whatever you want about stats and numbers but as always, those don't tell the whole story.

 

He was fired and deserved to be fired. This team was going nowhere with Dorsey continuing to call plays.

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Yeah, it started out apparently breaking his left hand in the opener falling after running for a TD(I think that was the leap over Baker).  

 

He got BLASTED on that terrible trick play in Baltimore.  Clearly concussed and we were fortunate he didn't suffer an arm injury as well.  

 

He got BLASTED and appeared completely unconscious after another one of his worst all time hits in Houston the next week.   

 

Hit extremely hard and high while prone after the throw on the sideline numerous times in the Rams/Lions weeks...........had to go for X-Rays on his shoulder after the Lions game.

 

Those are the big one's that come immediately to mind.   We are used to the 100+ carries now......and take it for granted even though we shouldn't.  But it had been a while since he had anything that looked like an obvious concussion and he had 2 this year.  Since the 2019 home game against NE, to be exact.    

 

Clearly he did not or he wouldn't be allowed back in the game.

 

Stop presenting your thinly veiled opinions that are highly agenda driven as facts when they don't even logically make sense.

Edited Wednesday at 01:03 AM by Big Turk

[FireChans]

23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

As for the constraints on Dorsey........it was real.  @GunnerBill claims that Dorsey was trying to fit square pegs into a round hole.  But he didn't choose the pegs.

 

23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

The Bills clearly initially thought they were going to be able to skate by with him outside......but he and Allen couldn't connect on the deep ball (did you forget that frustration early in the season?).   So I wouldn't say he optimized Hollins he just had to minimize his route tree after the Baltimore/Houston debacles forced the Cooper trade.

I would kind of read these two takes back to back.

 

Dorsey didn’t choose the pegs but it’s Brady’s fault that Mack freaking Hollins was our only boundary WR with experience pre-Cooper trade?

[GunnerBill]

27 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So Ty Johnson and Shakir I agree with.    Shakir optimized?  VERY debatable.  Kincaid, Knox, Samuel, Coleman, Cooper were clearly NOT optimized.  So not buying the optimization claim.

 

On Mack Hollins.........he is basically the same player he's always been IMO.   The Bills clearly initially thought they were going to be able to skate by with him outside......but he and Allen couldn't connect on the deep ball (did you forget that frustration early in the season?).   So I wouldn't say he optimized Hollins he just had to minimize his route tree after the Baltimore/Houston debacles forced the Cooper trade.

 

That said, Hollins brings something that Davis did not.   Most of the people on here don't go to camp so they didn't see the Bills always trying to develop Gabe into a big slot WR every camp.   Then they would try it in preseason and it wouldn't work and they'd give up.  In fact, the first time Allen and Davis took the field in a preseason game in 2023 he tried a quick slant to Gabe to start the first series, it hit him square in stride on the hands and bounced off for an INT.   And that was it for 2023.  Hollins is pretty useless deep but fits better in the tight formations because he's actually playable in the middle of the field.  Gabe was NOT.   Like I said, Gabe was a banana peel just waiting to be slipped on by any OC.  SO overrated.   The numbers don't lie.......when he was targeted Allen struggled.   His departure has been at least as much of a positive than the oft-talked up Diggs departure.

 

As for the constraints on Dorsey........it was real.  @GunnerBill claims that Dorsey was trying to fit square pegs into a round hole.  But he didn't choose the pegs.  McBeane were invested in Diggs and Davis and they didn't fit the "complementary football" approach that was suddenly necessary with McDermott's struggling defense(beginning in London).   The 3 prior games they averaged 38 points.  Diggs was trending toward a career year.  

 

But there were broad changes in how most teams were defensing explosive teams by mid-season last year.  It caused an offensive production drop around the league.  Brady didn't create the wheel he expanded on an adaptation that had already started in the Tampa game.   IMO they didn't do the same the next week against Denver because they thought it was going to be an easy W and perhaps wanted to save it for the Jets game.   But then McD cost them that Denver game.   It comes off to some like I am saying Dorsey was unfairly fired.   That's not the case.  My opinion of he and Brady was that they would be pretty interchangeable and the team needed a shakeup.  But it's not like Dorsey was terrible for half of a season.   It's an untrue narrative.  

 

Brady and Dorsey are not interchangeable. That is laughabe. But I know you will defend your canes guy. It's understandable. But it is not objective.

[djp14150]

Get Gilliam and an OL/DL Rushing/ passing TD….

[FireChans]

19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Brady and Dorsey are not interchangeable. That is laughabe. But I know you will defend your canes guy. It's understandable. But it is not objective.

The take that Gabe Davis was OC poison is ok, but what @BADOLBILZ doesn’t realize or is ignoring is that when Brady took over, he basically cut Gabe out of the game.

 

Gabe had 5.5 targets per game under Dorsey.

 

He went down to 3.7 targets per game under Brady.

So while Dorsey was SADDLED with Gabe as a boundary WR, he still made him a focal point. 

Brady of course de-emphasized Gabe the human banana peel while Dorsey featured him. That’s not interchangeable. 

[BADOLBILZ]

23 minutes ago, FireChans said:

 

I would kind of read these two takes back to back.

 

Dorsey didn’t choose the pegs but it’s Brady’s fault that Mack freaking Hollins was our only boundary WR with experience pre-Cooper trade?

 

Where did I blame Brady for choosing the players?   I said "the Bills" thought Hollins could be a starting boundary WR.   Beane left him short on the boundary.  But Brady still dialed up those hopeless deep shots.   That's not the definition of "optimizing".  

 

You are trying to get into your nonsense I passed on addressing where you claim that the Bills had no receiving options beside Keon Coleman entering the season.   OK then.  They had a proven slot in Shakir,  they had a proven producer in Samuel, we knew Cook and Johnson were productive in the passing game at that point and Kincaid and Knox were both legit NFL TE's.   It wasn't that long ago that Lil' Dummy was their 4th best option in the passing game for Dorsey behind Diggs/Davis/Knox.   That's 3 guys with BAD hands and Diggs.  They had WAY more depth than that entering this season.   They just lacked the all important difference makers on the boundary.   

[Nihilarian]

Under Joe Brady 13 different Bills players have caught a pass this season which ties an NFL record..."everybody eats". Not just Diggs and while he was having a good year under Dorsey the team was 5-5. 

 

Like under Daboll, Dorsey had no answer for the Buffalo offense when the pass game wasn't working... along with Josh Allen under great duress and those two morons just kept calling pass plays.

 

Buffalo now has a power rush game which cannot be overstated how good that is for the Bills offense. Not only do opposing teams need to account for Josh Allen who can run or hit any receiver anywhere on the field. They now need to account for Cook, Davis and Johnson on the ground and in the pass game. They don't know who is getting the ball on any play. 

 

The Bills this season beat the top two teams in the both the NFC, AFC in the 13-1 Lions AT DETROIT along with the then undefeated Chiefs in Buffalo.  The 15-1 Chiefs with their only loss to Buffalo.

 

Some Bills fans seem to forget that Buffalo was supposed to be in a rebuilding year this season after losing Poyer, Hyde along with superstar WR Stephon Diggs. Most talking heads had the Bills next to last in the division. Nobody picked Buffalo to beat Detroit at Detroit with their #1 offense in the NFL and two headed rushing attack. This year instead of Josh Allen running for his life against the Jags, Buffalo pounded them 47-10! 

 

The Buffalo Bills offense has mostly carried this team this season, 13-3 and some fans still complain...

[BADOLBILZ]

34 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Brady and Dorsey are not interchangeable. That is laughabe. But I know you will defend your canes guy. It's understandable. But it is not objective.

 

Look, you thought Brian Daboll was a great offensive mind.  And you had the same attitude towards my opinion then when I told you that you were wrong about that.  

 

Dismissive.  You knew better.  

 

Wrong.  

 

Even @dave mcbride finally had to admit I was right and he was a Dabolliever like you.

 

And as I told you years ago.......I was not a Ken Dorsey fan at Miami....he was a limiting factor on a great team.   The only things I liked about his hiring was the continuity for Allen and the fact that he wasn't the wicky-wacky,  3-points-against-Jacksonville Daboll.   And I was not one of the many people worried about Dorsey leaving for a HC job when the offense was putting up gaudy numbers in 2022.

 

And I'm fine with Brady when he isn't botching a big moment........but AGAIN........not one of the people worried about Joe Brady leaving to be a HC either.  

 

You don't like both interchangeable?   Ok then, both replaceable.

 

This is motherf*cking Josh Allen's offense.  

 

Has it been mentioned before that Allen is the guy you didn't think was going to make it as an NFL QB?   If I took your position of presuming bias I guess I'd say you give too much credit to the OC because you can't accept just how bad your take on Allen was. 

[BADOLBILZ]

30 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The take that Gabe Davis was OC poison is ok, but what @BADOLBILZ doesn’t realize or is ignoring is that when Brady took over, he basically cut Gabe out of the game.

 

Gabe had 5.5 targets per game under Dorsey.

 

He went down to 3.7 targets per game under Brady.

So while Dorsey was SADDLED with Gabe as a boundary WR, he still made him a focal point. 

Brady of course de-emphasized Gabe the human banana peel while Dorsey featured him. That’s not interchangeable. 

 

In his first month with Brady,  Gabe Davis had two 100+ yard games.   As many as he had in two years of regular season games with Daboll and 1.5 with Dorsey.

 

He didn't "basically" cut Gabe out.  I wish he had.   Wrong-way Gabe cost them the Eagles game despite some gaudy yardage.  Gabe got banged up and missed time.  You misremember.

[GoBills808]

13 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Look, you thought Brian Daboll was a great offensive mind.  And you had the same attitude towards my opinion then when I told you that you were wrong about that.  

 

Dismissive.  You knew better.  

 

Wrong.  

 

Even @dave mcbride finally had to admit I was right and he was a Dabolliever like you.

 

And as I told you years ago.......I was not a Ken Dorsey fan at Miami....he was a limiting factor on a great team.   The only things I liked about his hiring was the continuity for Allen and the fact that he wasn't the wicky-wacky,  3-points-against-Jacksonville Daboll.   And I was not one of the many people worried about Dorsey leaving for a HC job when the offense was putting up gaudy numbers in 2022.

 

And I'm fine with Brady when he isn't botching a big moment........but AGAIN........not one of the people worried about Joe Brady leaving to be a HC either.  

 

You don't like both interchangeable?   Ok then, both replaceable.

 

This is motherf*cking Josh Allen's offense.  

 

Has it been mentioned before that Allen is the guy you didn't think was going to make it as an NFL QB?   If I took your position of presuming bias I guess I'd say you give too much credit to the OC because you can't accept just how bad your take on Allen was. 

This is the real point imo

 

You'd have to be absolutely clueless to NOT run a successful offense here. Allen can handle just about anything at this point...his ability to adapt to various systems is an underrated part of his game

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

Stop presenting your thinly veiled opinions that are highly agenda driven as facts when they don't even logically make sense.

 

 

Turkish soccer fan says I have an agenda.    The truth is not an agenda.  

[Simon]

45 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Wrong-way Gabe

 

You're a pain in my ass but this is a world class nickname. 

[Scott7975]

I said last season what they needed was guys that didn't drop the football and guys that could get YAC. For the most part, thats what they got this year. Still some unfortunate drops but without looking, I would be this is the most YAC Allen has ever gotten from his receivers.

[Scott7975]

12 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Well then I could say that Brady is directly responsible for by far the most physical abuse Josh Allen has taken in a season as well.   For the first time since 2020 the reigns were totally taken off Josh Allen.  From the moment Brady was given the job.   That version of Josh Allen is hard for any defense to get off the field.   The one that Dorsey had and the one that Daboll had at times was told not to risk injury extending plays and running the ball.  That guy is a lot less fun and harder to OC for.  Fortunately, Allen survived a full season of it.

 

This is the least amount of rushing attempts Josh has had since 2020 and that is a tie at 102.