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Brady had to work with new kids mix and blend every year new in college. It may have given him a strong mindset that makes “lemonade” from each new recruit each year. Likely allowed him to see more objectively the entire team and less pigeon hole roles (aka Diggs immediate shift last year)

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Here's the deal.  I don't know if Joe Brady is a great leader of men, or a great culture creator.  I have no idea.  I really appreciate McDermott and what he has meant for the Bills and his record of regular season success with Allen has been awesome.  I have never been on that train calling for McD to be let go.

 

BUT,  if the Bills lose in the Wild Card round or Divisional I'd shake his hand if I were ownership, thank McD and name Joe Brady as the head coach.  Why?  because Joe is going to get a head coach job somewhere in the offseason and it might as well be here.  He's not only close with the franchise QB, he's been really really good for the entire offense.  

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2 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

Brady had to work with new kids mix and blend every year new in college. It may have given him a strong mindset that makes “lemonade” from each new recruit each year. Likely allowed him to see more objectively the entire team and less pigeon hole roles (aka Diggs immediate shift last year)

 

And going back to college, he was the one who essentially molded Burrow and Chase into the forces they have become. Sure, they were great players, but in that offense they became one of the best ever in college football history.

1 minute ago, zow2 said:

Here's the deal.  I don't know if Joe Brady is a great leader of men, or a great culture creator.  I have no idea.  I really appreciate McDermott and what he has meant for the Bills and his record of regular season success with Allen has been awesome.  I have never been on that train calling for McD to be let go.

 

BUT,  if the Bills lose in the Wild Card round or Divisional I'd shake his hand if I were ownership, thank McD and name Joe Brady as the head coach.  Why?  because Joe is going to get a head coach job somewhere in the offseason and it might as well be here.  He's not only close with the franchise QB, he's been really really good for the entire offense.  

 

And if the Bengals miss the playoffs, I would not be surprised for it to be in Cincy...and good God, may He help us if he is re-united with Burrow and Chase.

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Easy to forget that we were cooked last season before he came in. And then we somehow made the playoffs with a brutal schedule 

 

ive criticised his calls early in this season but that’s because I am an idiot who knows nothing 

 

what he’s done from day 1 - from last season to this - is as good a job as anyone in the league could have done 

 

he’s a diamond 

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15 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

And if the Bengals miss the playoffs, I would not be surprised for it to be in Cincy...and good God, may He help us if he is re-united with Burrow and Chase.

Teams with bad defenses rarely win Super Bowls.  Cinci defense this season is 29th in points and 27th in Yards Allowed.

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Id pump the brakes on this one.  The offense has been great but I am not sure how many of their best plays were a result of the scheme.    I feel like the Bills do a lot off schedule as a result of Josh buying time on scramble drills.   I feel like more than ever Josh is holding the ball for a hell of a long time.

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3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Id pump the brakes on this one.  The offense has been great but I am not sure how many of their best plays were a result of the scheme.    I feel like the Bills do a lot off schedule as a result of Josh buying time on scramble drills.   I feel like more than ever Josh is holding the ball for a hell of a long time.

 

When you are included in the greatest offenses of all-time there is no pumping the brakes.  Josh Allen has been doing stuff off-schedule his entire career...he has never played offensive football like he has this year.

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Just now, Big Turk said:

 

When you are included in the greatest offenses of all-time there is no pumping the brakes.  

 

Let’s see how it does in the playoffs.

 

 

I’ll be uber impressed if he can do it there.

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

And if the Bengals miss the playoffs, I would not be surprised for it to be in Cincy...and good God, may He help us if he is re-united with Burrow and Chase.

 

Taylor is safe now IMO. The Bengals don't wanna pay him off. It'd have had to be bad for them to do that. And 9-8 isn't bad enough.

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10 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Id pump the brakes on this one.  The offense has been great but I am not sure how many of their best plays were a result of the scheme.    I feel like the Bills do a lot off schedule as a result of Josh buying time on scramble drills.   I feel like more than ever Josh is holding the ball for a hell of a long time.

Seems to be working though, and maybe that is part of the scheme, weirder things have happened, 

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15 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Id pump the brakes on this one.  The offense has been great but I am not sure how many of their best plays were a result of the scheme.    I feel like the Bills do a lot off schedule as a result of Josh buying time on scramble drills.   I feel like more than ever Josh is holding the ball for a hell of a long time.

 

Allen is sitting at 2.88 seconds to throw which is 15th in the NFL.

 

2024: 2.88

2023: 2.88

2022: 2.87

2021: 2.9

2020: 3.04

2019: 2.86

2018: 3.22

 

So it seems that your perception may not be reality in this case.

 

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2024/REG/all#yards

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6 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Id pump the brakes on this one.  The offense has been great but I am not sure how many of their best plays were a result of the scheme.    I feel like the Bills do a lot off schedule as a result of Josh buying time on scramble drills.   I feel like more than ever Josh is holding the ball for a hell of a long time.

True, but the Bills might have inadvertently created the next big thing in offensive football. You need an excellent line to buy the QB time and an elusive quarterback who can scramble and create. The receivers don't have to be great, just competent, because, given enough time, someone will get open at some point. It's brilliant, because if the designed play is there, fine. If it's not, you go into backyard-football mode. 

 

In short, an offense designed to do what other offenses resort to only as a last resort: scramble. How do you defend against that? 

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46 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Joe Brady may very well go down as one of the greatest offensive minds in the history of football. He has done what no other team in the history of the NFL has done...become prolific in a historical context with no true #1 WR, no 1,000 yard WR and no 1,000 yard rusher thru 16 games.

 

Essentially, he has created the NFL version of "Total Football" that was pioneered by The Netherlands with their great "Orange Crush" teams of the 1970s with Johann Cruyff as their star. Anybody can be the "go to guy" in any given week, and anyone can make the key play.  You cannot simply "take away" one player, the Bills offense is diversified in a way that no other offense has been in the history of the NFL. Just like on those Netherland teams, they don't have true "positions" as thought of by other teams. People are lining up all over the place to create matchups that favor the BIlls dependent on who they are playing.

 

Think I am going too far?  I am not. Consider:

 

  1. Points per drive. The 2024 Bills are averaging 3.12 points/drive - In the history of the NFL, only the 2007 Patriots have averaged more at 3.19.  The only other teams above 3 are the 2018 Chiefs, the 2013 Broncos and the 2001 Rams.  All of them featured multiple stars and HOF players.  We are essentially doing what the most prolific offenses in NFL history have done without the supporting casts to do it.
  2. 2024 Bills tied an all-time NFL record with 8 straight 30+ point games.
  3. 2024 Bills tied an all-time NFL record with 13 different players catching a TD pass.
  4. 2024 Bills set a franchise record for most points and TDs in a season and have the highest points per game at 31.8 thru 16 games
  5. Josh Allen leads the NFL in EPA/play
  6. 2024 Bills set a franchise record for 40+ point games with 4
  7. 2024 Bills set a franchise record for 30+ point games with 12

 

Brady is the very definition of doing more with less and doing it in ways where no one person can be keyed on by the defense, meaning they have to be prepared for anyone to beat them at anytime.  This was never more apparent than during the Lions game when Ty Johnson, a 3rd down RB was our leading receiver with over 100 yards, our "#1 WR" Amari Cooper wasn't even targeted and the Bills rolled up 559 yards of offense and 48 points and were so unstoppable that it forced the opposing coach to try a desperation onside kick with 12 minutes to go in the 4th quarter only down 10 points.

 

I am not sure there has ever been a better job done at OC in NFL history considering what Brady had to work with and how he fit together his gameplans to attack the opposing teams weaknesses and create an ever shifting target for who they would try to stop on offense.  The level of absurdity with how good this offense has been with a bunch of "no names" for the most part on it is absurd.  Patently absurd. If Brady does not win assistant coach of the year in the NFL, they should just throw the award away because it has no meaning.

Good post.  Thanks for sharing.

 

My opinion-  I think Brady has done a very good job and he’ll probably be the Bengals HC next year.  
 

That said-  I give the majority of the credit to Josh.  He’s 1 of 1

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6 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

Allen is sitting at 2.88 seconds to throw which is 15th in the NFL.

 

2024: 2.88

2023: 2.88

2022: 2.87

2021: 2.9

2020: 3.04

2019: 2.86

2018: 3.22

 

So it seems that your perception may not be reality in this case.

 

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2024/REG/all#yards

 

Yea I have to say "Josh is holding the ball a ton" is not a thought I've had this year.

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22 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Id pump the brakes on this one.  The offense has been great but I am not sure how many of their best plays were a result of the scheme.    I feel like the Bills do a lot off schedule as a result of Josh buying time on scramble drills.   I feel like more than ever Josh is holding the ball for a hell of a long time.

Yeah, they still have issues scheming receivers open and have no idea how to utilize two above-average TEs.

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51 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Here's the deal.  I don't know if Joe Brady is a great leader of men, or a great culture creator.  I have no idea.  I really appreciate McDermott and what he has meant for the Bills and his record of regular season success with Allen has been awesome.  I have never been on that train calling for McD to be let go.

 

BUT,  if the Bills lose in the Wild Card round or Divisional I'd shake his hand if I were ownership, thank McD and name Joe Brady as the head coach.  Why?  because Joe is going to get a head coach job somewhere in the offseason and it might as well be here.  He's not only close with the franchise QB, he's been really really good for the entire offense.  

 

The bolded makes total sense to no business owner ever.   

 

Turn the clock back a few years, same argument made about Dabol and now he is clearly a great leader and finds ways to win at least 3 games every year.

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19 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Let’s see how it does in the playoffs.

 

 

I’ll be uber impressed if he can do it there.

 

 

 

The offense and Josh have never been a problem in the post season.  I don’t see why this year is any different.  If anything, I suspect other teams will have to figure out ways to keep pace.  The Defense will be what determines just how far our season goes. 

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