Coleman shows up Allen on first TD target

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

I'll agree to disagree.

 

Coleman wasn't communicating anything because Josh already knew what had happened.

 

Coleman was essentially saying "it's not my fault I didn't catch the ball."

 

I think you are really reaching here.  Its like you don’t believe feedback should ever exist.

[Sierra Foothills]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

I think you are really reaching here.  Its like you don’t believe feedback should ever exist.

 

I judge things on a case by case basis.

 

But if I wanted my QB to throw the ball higher, I wouldn't be gesturing to him from a distance.

 

But again, what was there to communicate?

 

Nothing. Josh knew he missed the throw.

 

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

you're definitely alone in this opinion bud

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Sierra Foothills said:

 

I judge things on a case by case basis.

 

But if I wanted my QB to throw the ball higher, I wouldn't be gesturing to him from a distance.

 

But again, what was there to communicate?

 

Nothing. Josh knew he missed the throw.

 

Im pretty sure Allen knows every throw he misses, he isn’t completely oblivious.  So basically, you can’t ever give feedback to him….ever.

[Richard Noggin]

The Seattle game was virtually the same gesture, which then on the very next play resulted in a TD to Coleman from his QB who was in no way at all insulted by his WR's feedback. 

[HurlyBurly51]

13 minutes ago, CookieG said:

Kelly used to joke that every time Andre Reed would come back to the huddle, he'd say, "Im open, throw me the ball". of course, that didn't happen too often in the 90s because they ran a no huddle offense. Maybe that's why they went to the no huddle, Kelly got tired of hearing Andre Reed say he was open.

 

That was back in the day.

 

But if Coleman was really disrespectful, Josh wouldn't have thrown him the TD pass later in the game.  

 

And yes, he threw it higher..  

 

I just saw it as a simple gesture, "a little higher, I'll nab it for ya".  

 

 

 

 

Kelly wouldn’t throw it to Reed because of their lady conflicts, or so the rumors went😅

[Sierra Foothills]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Im pretty sure Allen knows every throw he misses, he isn’t completely oblivious.  So basically, you can’t ever give feedback to him….ever.

 

You can... if you think it's really important for you to state the obvious in front of the entire stadium and viewership.

 

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said:

Anyone else notice, after Allen's first target to Coleman in the EZ falls incomplete (at exactly 8:20 of the 1st quarter), Coleman looks back in Allen's direction, points upward and makes (what I interpreted as) a "throw it higher next time" gesture?

 

I was fine with his idea and agree with him, BUT to make that gesture to Allen in front of the home crowd was completely uncalled for and totally unearned at this point in his career.  

 

I interpreted this as an arrogant, unaccomplished rookie trying to show up the MVP frontrunner in front of the home crowd, and i don't like it one bit.  

 

Am i alone in this opinion or are there different interpretations out there?  

 

Maybe the worst thread post of all time...thats quite the accomplishment

[TBBills Fan]

6 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

Kelly wouldn’t throw it to Reed because of their lady conflicts, or so the rumors went😅

That's why you form a tag team and do the bro high five together.

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Sierra Foothills said:

 

You can... if you think it's really important for you to state the obvious in front of the entire stadium and viewership.

 

The vast majority doesn’t see this as an issue at all.  This thread was created 6+ hours after the game and if it was as big an issue as you are making it, it would have been talked about immediately during and after the game.  This was forgotten about until 2 hours ago.  

[Since1981]

12 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

e Seattle game was virtually the same gesture, which then on the very next play resulted in a TD to Coleman from his QB who was in no way at all insulted by his WR's feedback.

Exactly. One guy telling the other dude “I got this guy, lil higher”

[Royale with Cheese]

Coleman walked back to the huddle and told Allen he’d make the play for six points if he gave him another shot.

“We miscued on the first one,” Coleman said. “I told him, just put it even higher and give me another shot at it. He gave me another shot and I went up there and made the play.”

 

https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2024/10/what-bills-keon-coleman-told-josh-allen-after-miscue-that-led-to-td-2-plays-later.html?outputType=amp

 

Coleman has told Allen this now twice?  Another diva we need to trade.

[BillnutinHouston]

36 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

I'll agree to disagree.

 

Coleman wasn't communicating anything because Josh already knew what had happened.

 

Coleman was essentially saying "it's not my fault I didn't catch the ball."

 

 

Agree - its just like Diggs used to do.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Page 6 of this?  Gosh, I guess we need to fabricate something controversial after a beatdown like that.

[BillnutinHouston]

20 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

The vast majority doesn’t see this as an issue at all.  This thread was created 6+ hours after the game and if it was as big an issue as you are making it, it would have been talked about immediately during and after the game.  This was forgotten about until 2 hours ago.  

 

Is reading comprehension too much to ask?  I'm not making this anything.  I simply stated my interpretation and asked for others' interpretation.

 

Is it possible that it's not being talked about by the players because Allen is above making an issue of it?

 

Think about this list of players who've been on the field for far more snaps than Coleman without feeling the need to make similar gestures: Knox, Kincaid, Shakir, Cook & Johnson.

 

Diggs and Coleman are in the diva  club by themselves.

Edited December 30, 2024 by BillnutinHouston

[Drew21PA]

….what?

[Sierra Foothills]

36 minutes ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said:

you're definitely alone in this opinion bud

 

You'd be mistaken if you thought I cared if I was in the minority of anything.

 

I'm not cowed by the opinions of others.

 

33 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Im pretty sure Allen knows every throw he misses, he isn’t completely oblivious.  So basically, you can’t ever give feedback to him….ever.

 

Your first sentence, yes Josh isn't oblivious which is why Coleman's gesture was self-serving.

 

Your second sentence, I didn't say you can't give feedback.

 

I said what Coleman did was unnecessary.

 

24 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

The vast majority doesn’t see this as an issue at all.  This thread was created 6+ hours after the game and if it was as big an issue as you are making it, it would have been talked about immediately during and after the game.  This was forgotten about until 2 hours ago.  

 

We can go back to talking about the quietly improving WR corps or the inability of our defense to stop the run if you'd like.

 

I actually find this to be an interesting conversation.

 

15 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Coleman walked back to the huddle and told Allen he’d make the play for six points if he gave him another shot.

“We miscued on the first one,” Coleman said. “I told him, just put it even higher and give me another shot at it. He gave me another shot and I went up there and made the play.”

 

https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2024/10/what-bills-keon-coleman-told-josh-allen-after-miscue-that-led-to-td-2-plays-later.html?outputType=amp

 

Coleman has told Allen this now twice?  Another diva we need to trade.

 

So you're making my case for me.

 

I've said numerously that gesturing on TV in front of everyone is NOT the way you communicate that it was an imperfect throw.

 

They talked about it in the huddle.

 

That's how it should have been handled in the first place.

 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Sierra Foothills

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

Is reading comprehension too much to ask?  I'm not making this anything.  I simply stated my interpretation and asked for others' interpretation.

You are talking about reading comprehension when the reply wasn’t towards you.  
 

Not only that, you are saying that this gesture was disrespectful towards Allen in front of a home crowd and then saying you’re not making this anything.  You are creating a conflict between two players when there isn’t a conflict.  

[Simon]

5 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

Is reading comprehension too much to ask?  I'm not making this anything.  I simply stated my interpretation and asked for others' interpretation.

 

This is not entirely true:

 

Coleman's (or before that, Diggs') antics

 

you've done almost nothing yet in your little career.

 

its just like Diggs

 

These are not the phrasings of an innocent man simply seeking the thoughts of others.

If you're going to talk *****, don't act all virtuous and pretend you're somehow the aggrieved.

 

 

 

[Sierra Foothills]

31 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

The vast majority doesn’t see this as an issue at all.  This thread was created 6+ hours after the game and if it was as big an issue as you are making it, it would have been talked about immediately during and after the game.  This was forgotten about until 2 hours ago.  

 

1) I don't care what the "vast majority sees."

2) Me consistently disagreeing with you does not mean I'm making it a big issue.

 

In fact I called it a "violation of etiquette" and an act of "immaturity." That's not making it a big issue.

 

The reason this topic has reached this many pages is because people are arguing against those with different opinions... I'm not going to change my opinion because people want to argue with me.

 

So for the greater good, you can have the last word. I don't care to repeat myself again.

 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Sierra Foothills