BillnutinHouston Posted December 30, 2024 Author Posted December 30, 2024 29 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: No one was showing anyone up, that is your read on what happened but that does not make it true. Hard truth - that logic applies equally to both interpretations about the meaning of the gesture. The only person who knows the truth with certainty is Keon - the guy who has admitted to sharing his advice verbally in the huddle AFTER gesturing. If Keon wasn't trying to show Josh up, why the need to repeat the messaging? Can anyone answer my question posed earlier - why haven't we seen other receivers who have more time on task with Allen (e.g. Shakir, Knox, Kincaid, Gabe Davis, Cook, Johnson) do that same gesturing after an incompletion? The only comp of Coleman's behavior I can think of for this behavior is Diggs, who's a known me-first guy. 1
BillnutinHouston Posted December 30, 2024 Author Posted December 30, 2024 6 minutes ago, BRH said: If it’s a problem, his teammates will speak to Keon about it. Much more important to me is that Josh never shows up his receivers like Rodgers did yesterday. These are actually two of the most important points made in this wretched thread. Thanks!
Matt_In_NH Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Hard truth - that logic applies equally to both interpretations about the meaning of the gesture. The only person who knows the truth with certainty is Keon - the guy who has admitted to sharing his advice verbally in the huddle AFTER gesturing. If Keon wasn't trying to show Josh up, why the need to repeat the messaging? Can anyone answer my question posed earlier - why haven't we seen other receivers who have more time on task with Allen (e.g. Shakir, Knox, Kincaid, Gabe Davis, Cook, Johnson) do that same gesturing after an incompletion? The only comp of Coleman's behavior I can think of for this behavior is Diggs, who's a known me-first guy. It’s a non issue except in this thread. 1
BRH Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 12 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Can anyone answer my question posed earlier - why haven't we seen other receivers who have more time on task with Allen (e.g. Shakir, Knox, Kincaid, Gabe Davis, Cook, Johnson) do that same gesturing after an incompletion? The only comp of Coleman's behavior I can think of for this behavior is Diggs, who's a known me-first guy. 1. Because unlike any of those guys, Keon was brought here specifically to win jump balls. In fact, by all reports, Josh lobbied for Keon over the other available WRs (including Worthy) for exactly that reason. None of the guys you mentioned would ever ask Josh to “throw it higher.” Also, that play was on first down. If it had been a third- or fourth-down throw, I bet you wouldn’t have seen any gestures out of Keon. 2. They are not the same; see my post from a few minutes ago.
Neo Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 The internet bulletin board, where topics can be made of whole cloth, and linger for days …. 1
SunDSolar Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 30 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Hard truth - that logic applies equally to both interpretations about the meaning of the gesture. The only person who knows the truth with certainty is Keon - the guy who has admitted to sharing his advice verbally in the huddle AFTER gesturing. If Keon wasn't trying to show Josh up, why the need to repeat the messaging? Can anyone answer my question posed earlier - why haven't we seen other receivers who have more time on task with Allen (e.g. Shakir, Knox, Kincaid, Gabe Davis, Cook, Johnson) do that same gesturing after an incompletion? The only comp of Coleman's behavior I can think of for this behavior is Diggs, who's a known me-first guy. Lol he was just gesturing to get it up next time and he'll come down with it. Guess what... This gesture that some here think was Keon showing up Josh (which is a clown take), led to Josh giving him another shot in a much harder spot later in the game. Josh said ok rook.. I see you in the back of endzone.. go get it. And Keon did. Going forward this will give Josh some more confidence in giving him more 50/50 ball opportunities. Which will lead to more downfield catches, PI's and touchdowns(and occasionally INTs) Now let's cross our fingers that the range for Keon is a Mike Evans ceiling or at worst a Plaxico Burress floor. GO BILLS
Pete Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 (edited) Bills are 13-3, secure the 2nd seed, put up 40 points again, Josh under threw the first TD attempt, corrects it, and later Josh follows Colemans advice, and puts it high above everyone, and Coleman mans up and goes up above everyone and makes a sensastional TD catch. Billnutinhouston takeaway is Coleman shows up Josh like Diggs lol. So much so, they need to start a thread about Coleman's attitude. My God negative Nancy, Nick Wright is more optimistic about Coleman, and the Bills. Coleman shows up Allen on first TD target what delusional, hyperbolic, Tabloid headline screaming LAMP Edited December 30, 2024 by Pete 2 1
Royale with Cheese Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 I have a feeling I know who the flat earthers in this thread are. 1
Charles Romes Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 Allen is the MVP because he’s worked on things he’s needed to get better at throughout his career. He does need to throw that pass higher, and I’m glad Keon prominently conveyed that message. The next pass to Keon in the end zone was higher.
Scott7975 Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 11 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said: Anyone else notice, after Allen's first target to Coleman in the EZ falls incomplete (at exactly 8:20 of the 1st quarter), Coleman looks back in Allen's direction, points upward and makes (what I interpreted as) a "throw it higher next time" gesture? I was fine with his idea and agree with him, BUT to make that gesture to Allen in front of the home crowd was completely uncalled for and totally unearned at this point in his career. I interpreted this as an arrogant, unaccomplished rookie trying to show up the MVP frontrunner in front of the home crowd, and i don't like it one bit. Am i alone in this opinion or are there different interpretations out there? Man this was such a bad take in the GDT that you had to make it's own thread too? He aint showin anyone up. Its just communication to throw the ball higher. Josh aint offended and he doesn't need his mommy.
Augie Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 10 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: This thread isn’t real. Yeah, but neither is like….space and stuff if you listen to some of these guys. 🤷♂️ 1
Royale with Cheese Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 WGR talked about it this morning and they are talking about it as a positive….because it was. 1
NewEra Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 11 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said: Anyone else notice, after Allen's first target to Coleman in the EZ falls incomplete (at exactly 8:20 of the 1st quarter), Coleman looks back in Allen's direction, points upward and makes (what I interpreted as) a "throw it higher next time" gesture? I was fine with his idea and agree with him, BUT to make that gesture to Allen in front of the home crowd was completely uncalled for and totally unearned at this point in his career. I interpreted this as an arrogant, unaccomplished rookie trying to show up the MVP frontrunner in front of the home crowd, and i don't like it one bit. Am i alone in this opinion or are there different interpretations out there? terrible take
Don Otreply Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 10 hours ago, Malazan said: Can we ban every single poster on this forum? I feel like every single person here has a hand in this thread existing. I deserve to be banned for what I don’t post, 😁🍸🚬 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 2 hours ago, Neo said: The internet bulletin board, where topics can be made of whole cloth, and linger for days …. Not even 'whole cloth'. Often, just gossamer.😁 1
muppy Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 I'm not reading this entire thread so perdon if this has already been mentioned. I think #17 wears big enough panties to take an instructional gesture from a teammate. nothing more nothing less. ohh poor Josh will get his feewings hurt. MOM HE POINTED AT ME lol 1
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