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  On 12/30/2024 at 10:58 AM, Matt_In_NH said:

No one was showing anyone up, that is your read on what happened but that does not make it true.  

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Hard truth - that logic applies equally to both interpretations about the meaning of the gesture.

 

The only person who knows the truth with certainty is Keon - the guy who has admitted to sharing his advice verbally in the huddle AFTER gesturing.

If Keon wasn't trying to show Josh up, why the need to repeat the messaging?

 

Can anyone answer my question posed earlier - why haven't we seen other receivers who have more time on task with Allen (e.g. Shakir, Knox, Kincaid, Gabe Davis, Cook, Johnson) do that same gesturing after an incompletion?

 

The only comp of Coleman's behavior I can think of for this behavior is Diggs, who's a known me-first guy.

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  On 12/30/2024 at 11:33 AM, BRH said:

 

If it’s a problem, his teammates will speak to Keon about it.  Much more important to me is that Josh never shows up his receivers like Rodgers did yesterday.

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These are actually two of the most important points made in this wretched thread.  Thanks!

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  On 12/30/2024 at 11:35 AM, BillnutinHouston said:

 

Hard truth - that logic applies equally to both interpretations about the meaning of the gesture.

 

The only person who knows the truth with certainty is Keon - the guy who has admitted to sharing his advice verbally in the huddle AFTER gesturing.

If Keon wasn't trying to show Josh up, why the need to repeat the messaging?

 

Can anyone answer my question posed earlier - why haven't we seen other receivers who have more time on task with Allen (e.g. Shakir, Knox, Kincaid, Gabe Davis, Cook, Johnson) do that same gesturing after an incompletion?

 

The only comp of Coleman's behavior I can think of for this behavior is Diggs, who's a known me-first guy.

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It’s a non issue except in this thread.  

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  On 12/30/2024 at 11:35 AM, BillnutinHouston said:

Can anyone answer my question posed earlier - why haven't we seen other receivers who have more time on task with Allen (e.g. Shakir, Knox, Kincaid, Gabe Davis, Cook, Johnson) do that same gesturing after an incompletion?

 

The only comp of Coleman's behavior I can think of for this behavior is Diggs, who's a known me-first guy.

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1.  Because unlike any of those guys, Keon was brought here specifically to win jump balls.  In fact, by all reports, Josh lobbied for Keon over the other available WRs (including Worthy) for exactly that reason.  None of the guys you mentioned would ever ask Josh to “throw it higher.”  

 

Also, that play was on first down.  If it had been a third- or fourth-down throw, I bet you wouldn’t have seen any gestures out of Keon.

 

2.  They are not the same; see my post from a few minutes ago.

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  On 12/30/2024 at 11:35 AM, BillnutinHouston said:

 

Hard truth - that logic applies equally to both interpretations about the meaning of the gesture.

 

The only person who knows the truth with certainty is Keon - the guy who has admitted to sharing his advice verbally in the huddle AFTER gesturing.

If Keon wasn't trying to show Josh up, why the need to repeat the messaging?

 

Can anyone answer my question posed earlier - why haven't we seen other receivers who have more time on task with Allen (e.g. Shakir, Knox, Kincaid, Gabe Davis, Cook, Johnson) do that same gesturing after an incompletion?

 

The only comp of Coleman's behavior I can think of for this behavior is Diggs, who's a known me-first guy.

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Lol he was just gesturing to get it up next time and he'll come down with it.

 

Guess what...

 

This gesture that some here think was Keon showing up Josh (which is a clown take), led to Josh giving him another shot in a much harder spot later in the game.

 

Josh said ok rook..  I see you in the back of endzone..  go get it.

 

And Keon did.

 

Going forward this will give Josh some more confidence in giving him more 50/50 ball opportunities.  Which will lead to more downfield catches, PI's and touchdowns(and occasionally INTs)

 

Now let's cross our fingers that the range for Keon is a Mike Evans ceiling or at worst a Plaxico Burress floor.

 

GO BILLS

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Bills are 13-3, secure the 2nd seed, put up 40 points again, Josh under threw the first TD attempt, corrects it, and later Josh follows Colemans advice, and puts it high above everyone, and Coleman mans up and goes up above everyone and makes a sensastional TD catch. 

 

Billnutinhouston takeaway is Coleman shows up Josh like Diggs lol. So much so, they need to start a thread about Coleman's attitude. My God negative Nancy, Nick Wright is more optimistic about Coleman,  and the Bills.

 

 

Coleman shows up Allen on first TD target

what delusional, hyperbolic, Tabloid headline screaming LAMP

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Allen is the MVP because he’s worked on things he’s needed to get better at throughout his career.  He does need to throw that pass higher, and I’m glad Keon prominently conveyed that message. The next pass to Keon in the end zone was higher. 

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  On 12/30/2024 at 2:03 AM, BillnutinHouston said:

Anyone else notice, after Allen's first target to Coleman in the EZ falls incomplete (at exactly 8:20 of the 1st quarter), Coleman looks back in Allen's direction, points upward and makes (what I interpreted as) a "throw it higher next time" gesture?

 

I was fine with his idea and agree with him, BUT to make that gesture to Allen in front of the home crowd was completely uncalled for and totally unearned at this point in his career.  

 

I interpreted this as an arrogant, unaccomplished rookie trying to show up the MVP frontrunner in front of the home crowd, and i don't like it one bit.  

 

Am i alone in this opinion or are there different interpretations out there?  

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Man this was such a bad take in the GDT that you had to make it's own thread too? He aint showin anyone up. Its just communication to throw the ball higher. Josh aint offended and he doesn't need his mommy.

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  On 12/30/2024 at 2:03 AM, BillnutinHouston said:

Anyone else notice, after Allen's first target to Coleman in the EZ falls incomplete (at exactly 8:20 of the 1st quarter), Coleman looks back in Allen's direction, points upward and makes (what I interpreted as) a "throw it higher next time" gesture?

 

I was fine with his idea and agree with him, BUT to make that gesture to Allen in front of the home crowd was completely uncalled for and totally unearned at this point in his career.  

 

I interpreted this as an arrogant, unaccomplished rookie trying to show up the MVP frontrunner in front of the home crowd, and i don't like it one bit.  

 

Am i alone in this opinion or are there different interpretations out there?  

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Saying Goodbye Will Smith GIF by MOODMAN
 

terrible take

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I'm not reading this entire thread so perdon if this has already been mentioned. 

 

I think #17 wears big enough panties to take an instructional gesture from a teammate. nothing more nothing less.

 

ohh poor Josh will get his feewings hurt. MOM HE POINTED AT ME

 

lol

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