Former Bills on Dolphins defense

[Utah John]

There are three former Bills players starting on the Dolphins defense.  One is Jordan Poyer, whom the Bills let go because they could see he was aging and slowing.  Too bad because he was a great player for the Bills and was foundational to the resurrection of the team.  He isn't playing well for the Dolphins and I hope he can get through the season without injury and then retire.  If the Bills have a Wall of Fame in the new stadium, I think Poyer deserves a place on it.  

 

The second is Siran Neal, a safety and mostly a special teamer for the Bills.  Would he be better than Hamlin or Bishop?  I think the Bills saw him as a old player (30) and they wanted to get younger.  Still, this has been a much better year for the Bills than I think they expected, and I wonder if they would have held on to Neal if they'd known how it would go with their safeties.

 

The third is Tyrel Dodson, who's lighting it up for the Dolphins after being released by the Seahawks for no apparent reason -- he was the Seahawks leading tackler when they let him go.  The Bills could have kept Dodson but he was looking for a bigger contract than they wanted to (or could afford to) pay.  I would love to have him back since Milano is taking so long to get back to speed, and Bernard doesn't seem to be as good since he got married.  

 

Maybe the Dolphis can return the favor.  There's talk that if Miami is eliminated from the playoffs, they'll release Calais Campbell so he can sign with a contender.  He's old but still huge and still effective.  He would patch the biggest weakness of the Bills.  

 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

13 minutes ago, Utah John said:

There are three former Bills players starting on the Dolphins defense.  One is Jordan Poyer, whom the Bills let go because they could see he was aging and slowing.  Too bad because he was a great player for the Bills and was foundational to the resurrection of the team.  He isn't playing well for the Dolphins and I hope he can get through the season without injury and then retire.  If the Bills have a Wall of Fame in the new stadium, I think Poyer deserves a place on it.  

 

The second is Siran Neal, a safety and mostly a special teamer for the Bills.  Would he be better than Hamlin or Bishop?  I think the Bills saw him as a old player (30) and they wanted to get younger.  Still, this has been a much better year for the Bills than I think they expected, and I wonder if they would have held on to Neal if they'd known how it would go with their safeties.

 

The third is Tyrel Dodson, who's lighting it up for the Dolphins after being released by the Seahawks for no apparent reason -- he was the Seahawks leading tackler when they let him go.  The Bills could have kept Dodson but he was looking for a bigger contract than they wanted to (or could afford to) pay.  I would love to have him back since Milano is taking so long to get back to speed, and Bernard doesn't seem to be as good since he got married.  

 

Maybe the Dolphis can return the favor.  There's talk that if Miami is eliminated from the playoffs, they'll release Calais Campbell so he can sign with a contender.  He's old but still huge and still effective.  He would patch the biggest weakness of the Bills.  

 

 

If the Dolphins release Campbell he would likely be scooped up by the Ravens. If he goes unclaimed  I would bet he goes back there on his own.

[Mr. WEO]

Poyer on the WOF??   come on.  

 

marriage has already killed Bernard's career??

 

 

I'm heating my home with these takes!

Edited December 29, 2024 by Mr. WEO

[Utah John]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

If the Dolphins release Campbell he would likely be scooped up by the Ravens. If he goes unclaimed  I would bet he goes back there on his own.

The talk is that he'd be released, not waived.  If he's waived then the team records come into play.  If he's released outright, he would be free to make the best deal he could.  He might choose to go back to the Ravens or he might not.  Since his existing contract would no longer be in effect, it could come down to dollars in a bidding war.

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Poyer on the WOF??   come on.  

 

marriage has already killed Bernard's career??

 

 

I'm heating my home with these takes!

Yes, Poyer played great for the Bills for years.  He deserves the WOF.

 

I didn't say Bernard killed his career.  I have noticed that since his wedding, he hasn't been playing as well.  Correlation is not causation of course.  It could be he's playing through an injury.

[CoudyBills]

9 minutes ago, Utah John said:

The talk is that he'd be released, not waived.  If he's waived then the team records come into play.  If he's released outright, he would be free to make the best deal he could.  He might choose to go back to the Ravens or he might not.  Since his existing contract would no longer be in effect, it could come down to dollars in a bidding war.

Yes, Poyer played great for the Bills for years.  He deserves the WOF.

 

I didn't say Bernard killed his career.  I have noticed that since his wedding, he hasn't been playing as well.  Correlation is not causation of course.  It could be he's playing through an injury.

You sure your name is Jeff?  It's always Jeff...

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, Utah John said:

The talk is that he'd be released, not waived.  If he's waived then the team records come into play.  If he's released outright, he would be free to make the best deal he could.  He might choose to go back to the Ravens or he might not.  Since his existing contract would no longer be in effect, it could come down to dollars in a bidding war.

Yes, Poyer played great for the Bills for years.  He deserves the WOF.

 

I didn't say Bernard killed his career.  I have noticed that since his wedding, he hasn't been playing as well.  Correlation is not causation of course.  It could be he's playing through an injury.

 

He's not getting laid enough?

 

 

anyway, Bills haven't put up a player on the wall in 18 years.  If a Safety goes up, it won't be Poyer.  

[Beck Water]

10 minutes ago, Utah John said:

The talk is that he'd be released, not waived.  

 

After the trade deadline, all released players must pass through waivers.

 

Regarding ‘Nard Dog I think your noticer needs to be put on notice.

[JohnNord]

18 minutes ago, Utah John said:

There are three former Bills players starting on the Dolphins defense.  One is Jordan Poyer, whom the Bills let go because they could see he was aging and slowing.  Too bad because he was a great player for the Bills and was foundational to the resurrection of the team.  He isn't playing well for the Dolphins and I hope he can get through the season without injury and then retire.  If the Bills have a Wall of Fame in the new stadium, I think Poyer deserves a place on it.  

 

The second is Siran Neal, a safety and mostly a special teamer for the Bills.  Would he be better than Hamlin or Bishop?  I think the Bills saw him as a old player (30) and they wanted to get younger.  Still, this has been a much better year for the Bills than I think they expected, and I wonder if they would have held on to Neal if they'd known how it would go with their safeties.

 

The third is Tyrel Dodson, who's lighting it up for the Dolphins after being released by the Seahawks for no apparent reason -- he was the Seahawks leading tackler when they let him go.  The Bills could have kept Dodson but he was looking for a bigger contract than they wanted to (or could afford to) pay.  I would love to have him back since Milano is taking so long to get back to speed, and Bernard doesn't seem to be as good since he got married.  

 

Maybe the Dolphis can return the favor.  There's talk that if Miami is eliminated from the playoffs, they'll release Calais Campbell so he can sign with a contender.  He's old but still huge and still effective.  He would patch the biggest weakness of the Bills.  

 

 

The Bills don’t want of these 3 players.  Poyer was released from his contract because of his age/performance.  They wanted to get younger and cheaper.

 

Dodson has improved quite a bit over the past few seasons. But he was easily fooled in pass coverage.

 

Siran Neal is NOT a good defensive back.  If you have Neal playing significant snaps, it’s not an ideal situation.  He’s a special teams player

[Warriorspikes51]

17 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

If the Dolphins release Campbell he would likely be scooped up by the Ravens. If he goes unclaimed  I would bet he goes back there on his own.

uhh pretty sure veteran players are not subject to waivers

[Utah John]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

uhh pretty sure veteran players are not subject to waivers

Actually Beck Water is correct.  I didn't know it before but apparently it's true that players released after the trade deadline must go through waivers.  Maybe it's to keep teams from trying some kind of underhanded deal.  Also this means the released player's contract remains in effect which protects the players.

[Utah John]

12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He's not getting laid enough?

 

 

anyway, Bills haven't put up a player on the wall in 18 years.  If a Safety goes up, it won't be Poyer.  

I'm not sure the Bills intend to even have a WOF in the new stadium.  (One way to not have OJ Simpson's name up there, I suppose.)  But if they do, I would like to see  both Poyer and Hyde up there, next to each other.  

[Maine-iac]

1 hour ago, Utah John said:

The third is Tyrel Dodson, who's lighting it up for the Dolphins after being released by the Seahawks for no apparent reason -- he was the Seahawks leading tackler when they let him go.  The Bills could have kept Dodson but he was looking for a bigger contract than they wanted to (or could afford to) pay.  I would love to have him back since Milano is taking so long to get back to speed, and Bernard doesn't seem to be as good since he got married.  

 

Maybe the Dolphis can return the favor.  There's talk that if Miami is eliminated from the playoffs, they'll release Calais Campbell so he can sign with a contender.  He's old but still huge and still effective.  He would patch the biggest weakness of the Bills.  

 

 

Dodson looked like hot garbage in the Seahawks defense.  Not sure why but he was out of place all the time both stopping the run and the pass.  The two games he played with them before he was released were on TV here and I was watching (rooting for him) and he looked awful.  He was making a lot of tackles but down field and after the back had run for 5 or the TE had caught a pass in his zone.  Pretty sure Miami picked him up started him and then sat him as well.  Glad to see he's playing again.  Hopefully he's shown something but I'm guessing he's playing because they have some injuries.

[scuba guy]

This was already talked about in the Campbell thread

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

uhh pretty sure veteran players are not subject to waivers

Pretty sure after the trade deadline everyone is.

[machine gun kelly]

He’s a 17 year vet..  He was an excellent player, but he’s past his prime.