B-Man Posted December 29, 2024 Posted December 29, 2024 The following is a prayer from Carter’s inaugural address, January 20, 1977. I would like to have my frequent prayer answered that God let my life be meaningful in the enhancement of His kingdom and that my life might be meaningful in the enhancement of the lives of my fellow human beings. He was not a very good president, but certainly was an inspiration to everyone by the way he lived his life post-presidency. "Eternal rest grant unto them, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them. May their souls and the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Amen". 3 1 1 1
B-Man Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 From Peanut Farmer to President: Former President Jimmy Carter Dead at 100. FTA: Once in office, his popularity gradually began to fade, partly because of his drift to the Left. He supported the legalization of abortion by the courts, and his first act in office was to pardon all Vietnam War draft dodgers. In some ways, it was the McGovern agenda without the McGovern political baggage. His aides were often inexperienced in the ways of Washington, and like the only other engineer elected president, Herbert Hoover, Carter had an unfounded faith in his ability to both lead and micromanage his administration. While in office, he created the Department of Energy and the Department of Education. In a hotly contested decision, he gave away the American-built Panama Canal. He faced an energy crisis sparked by war in the Middle East and an Arab oil embargo, which Carter called the “moral equivalent of war.” But critics saw his address to the nation on the energy crisis while wearing a sweater as a sign of weakness in American global leadership. He seemed to ask Americans to get by with less and lower national expectations. In a struggling economy, he provided the equivalent of $11 billion to bail out a failing Chrysler Corporation as Japanese car imports flooded the struggling American automobile market. In his famous “malaise speech” towards the end of his term, he epitomized the economic malaise the nation was experiencing under his leadership with high gas prices, inflation, and slow economic growth. https://pjmedia.com/gregbyrnes/2024/12/29/former-president-jimmy-carter-dead-at-99-n4929045 FLASHBACK: 3/24/23 Jonathan S. Tobin: Don’t believe the Jimmy Carter revisionists. Despite the natural sympathy for a dying man, the revisionist attempt to erase his failures and their consequences should not prevail: https://www.jns.org/dont-believe-the-jimmy-carter-revisionists/ .
The Frankish Reich Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 A fine and decent man who served his country with honor. In retrospect, I see him as a transitional president. He was a more of a break with liberal Democrats of the late 60s and early 70s than a continuation. He started the wave of deregulation that hit its stride under Reagan, and his response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan put an end to the Democratic Party illusion that the Soviet system and the U.S. system could coexist indefinitely. RIP, Jimmy. 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 (edited) Well, he was certainly one of the bravest men to ever sit in the white house. His "Malaise" speech was a dose of reality that he wasn't ready for and the country wasn't ready for. "Mr. President, you aren't leading the country, you're managing the government.' Edited December 30, 2024 by Coffeesforclosers 1
The Frankish Reich Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 40 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: Another perspective Another stupid perspective. Israel: the Camp David accord was truly monumental. It was a peace deal that stuck, and has stuck for nearly half a century. What other "deal" involving Israel has worked? It was favorable enough for Israel that Sadat got assassinated over it. 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 29 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Another stupid perspective. Israel: the Camp David accord was truly monumental. It was a peace deal that stuck, and has stuck for nearly half a century. What other "deal" involving Israel has worked? It was favorable enough for Israel that Sadat got assassinated over it. I guess that settles it! https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-835378 In summary: The pattern is clear. This is Carter in his own words. He had ample time to critique Hamas and Assad. He critiqued Israel and the Palestinian Authority. He didn’t critique the Assad regime. Instead, he was part of the cavalcade of voices that appeared to want to give voice to Assad and his regime and bring him in from the cold. We know what Assad did. We know what Hamas did. Carter had a chance to speak truth to power to these regimes. He was a much more harsh critic of Israel and the Palestinian Authority than of Hamas and Asssad. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/us/politics/carter-israel-camp-david.html While he played a neutral broker during the Camp David talks at the presidential retreat in Maryland in 1978, he grew increasingly critical of Israel after leaving office, most notably in a 2006 book, “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid,” that compared Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians to South Africa’s former system of racial repression.
The Frankish Reich Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 5 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: compared Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians to South Africa’s former system of racial repression. Well, what's wrong with that? It was, if anything, prescient, given how Netanyahu's aggressive expansion of West Bank settlements has gone.
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well, what's wrong with that? It was, if anything, prescient, given how Netanyahu's aggressive expansion of West Bank settlements has gone. What’s wrong with it? I direct you to the network of tunnels built by Hamas and their purpose. The plight of the Palestinian people is the fault of their “leaders”. Jimmy Carter was unable to understand that. You appear to be in the same boat.
The Frankish Reich Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: What’s wrong with it? I direct you to the network of tunnels built by Hamas and their purpose. The plight of the Palestinian people is the fault of their “leaders”. Jimmy Carter was unable to understand that. You appear to be in the same boat. True. But does the West Bank basically live under a system of apartheid? Tell it like it is.
Artful Dodger Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 He demonstrated true courage when he successfully fought off that rabbit while he was fishing without any help from his Secret Service agents. 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 37 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: True. But does the West Bank basically live under a system of apartheid? Tell it like it is. Perhaps basically. I believe that’s tempered by the stated goal of the destruction of Israel and killing of all Jews. My opinion is that Carter was on the wrong side of foreign policy in his post-presidency.
Wacka Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 Even now at this minute, he is more intelligent than Biden. 2
The Frankish Reich Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 22 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: He demonstrated true courage when he successfully fought off that rabbit while he was fishing without any help from his Secret Service agents. He never overcame the killer rabbit story. 22 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: Perhaps basically. I believe that’s tempered by the stated goal of the destruction of Israel and killing of all Jews. My opinion is that Carter was on the wrong side of foreign policy in his post-presidency. So apartheid, but apartheid justified by security concerns. Or apartheid giving rise to security concerns. I understand your take on Carter's post-presidency views of foreign policy, but at least he did have the common sense to recognize that Israel's actions are not pure as the driven snow.
sherpa Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 Reticent to comment on him now that he is gone, but he has been wrong on so many things. Great work for Habitat. Great work in many humanitarian projects. But, he was a horrible president. Despised by the military, despite his history of service. Grossly uninformed, which resulted in huge losses of talented individuals, and significant capability decreases. Reagan pretty much fixed that. Always thought he was smarter than everyone else, and he disregarded valuable advice. His anti Israel policy, mostly post presidency, was completely delusional. He never seemed to understand the true nature of the middle east, seeming to think they are all good guys who can be convinced to coexist. Not true. Not yet. Completely screwed up the US Embassy seizure in Tehran, and authored a horribly senseless rescue attempt resulting in significant loss of US lives. That was his show. The staff that served him knew was a fraud, and have stated that. Faking carrying his own luggage and more. Negligent as the one who controls the nuclear response potential if the US was attacked. He refused to allow the nuc codes, known as the "football," to be carried into Plains when he was there, removing a rapid response which is required. His "election certification" efforts were way over stated nonsense. Nice guy. Devout Christian, but a horrible leader. 21 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: So apartheid, but apartheid justified by security concerns. Or apartheid giving rise to security concerns. Apartheid. Have you seen any stats on how many Jews live in Lebanon/Egypt? Compare that to thirty years ago. Then, contrast that with how many Muslims live, vote and thrive in Israel over the same time frame. There is your evidence of apartheid.
B-Man Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 From Peanut Farmer to President: Former President Jimmy Carter Dead at 100. FTA: Once in office, his popularity gradually began to fade, partly because of his drift to the Left. He supported the legalization of abortion by the courts, and his first act in office was to pardon all Vietnam War draft dodgers. In some ways, it was the McGovern agenda without the McGovern political baggage. His aides were often inexperienced in the ways of Washington, and like the only other engineer elected president, Herbert Hoover, Carter had an unfounded faith in his ability to both lead and micromanage his administration. While in office, he created the Department of Energy and the Department of Education. In a hotly contested decision, he gave away the American-built Panama Canal. He faced an energy crisis sparked by war in the Middle East and an Arab oil embargo, which Carter called the “moral equivalent of war.” But critics saw his address to the nation on the energy crisis while wearing a sweater as a sign of weakness in American global leadership. He seemed to ask Americans to get by with less and lower national expectations. In a struggling economy, he provided the equivalent of $11 billion to bail out a failing Chrysler Corporation as Japanese car imports flooded the struggling American automobile market. In his famous “malaise speech” towards the end of his term, he epitomized the economic malaise the nation was experiencing under his leadership with high gas prices, inflation, and slow economic growth. https://pjmedia.com/gregbyrnes/2024/12/29/former-president-jimmy-carter-dead-at-99-n4929045 Don’t believe the Jimmy Carter revisionists https://www.jns.org/dont-believe-the-jimmy-carter-revisionists/
Orlando Buffalo Posted December 30, 2024 Posted December 30, 2024 Jimmy was a guy who we should all learn from. "Kindness" from a government entity is always going to be taken advantage of by people. He tried to make government in his morals and all it did was damage the credibility and effectiveness of the US government. He was a good guy and I have to believe he is going to heaven for his good intentions and efforts, but he was completely ineffective.
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