Next week’s Pats game - interesting

[RichRiderBills]

17 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Thanks Colts.

 

Yep thanks Colts...we wanted to beat your soft butts in the playoffs but you blew it!

[Chaos]

12 minutes ago, FireChans said:

you don’t think tanking has been happening for years

Yes.  I also don't think any owner ever explicitiy told a coach he was about to fire to tank. The innuendo method in the post you replied to, is the method used.  What you said would not happen. 

[buffblue]

32 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

The Giants’ victory today was a fireable offense for Daboll — totally selfish, and I mean that. It calls to mind the Jets beating the Rams in 2020, which caused them to lose Trevor Lawrence for Zach Wilson.

Are the Patriots a smarter organization than the Giants?

 

Um, I think Daboll was a goner regardless of today's outcome.

 

I'll tell you who should be fired - the Colts DC for letting the friggin Giants and Drew Lock score damn near 50 points in a must win game. Horrendous

[dave mcbride]

23 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

This is why you would be never allowed anywhere near an NFL field. At no point does a coach and players ever want to lose a game

Come on. The Giants season is OVER, and they get absolutely zilch for winning. The only valuable commodity they get for being abjectly terrible all year is incredibly valuable draft capital — and the first pick in every round is as valuable as it gets in that realm. Coaches are members of larger organizations, and they have a responsibility to that organization to look past the shiny object in front of them — an utterly meaningless win — and focus on how they can help make the organization that employs them better for the long term. There is only path for that, and it ain’t winning a game in week 17 that gets you to 3-13.

 

I also *guarantee* you that pretty much every Giants fan agrees with me. As would every Jets fan who remembers missing out on Trevor Lawrence and settling for Zach Wilson. Lawrence is good-not-great but certainly possesses franchise-level talent. Zach Wilson is an absolute bust.

 

The fact that NFL coaches aren’t “wired that way” (ie, accepting that it’s ok to figure out how to lose without it being blatantly obvious) is frankly their problem. I suspect Mayo will put his own interest above his employer’s next week, but perhaps he’ll surprise me.

 

 

[Big Blitz]

When the Patriots beat our backups next week they won’t have the first pick.  

[Playoffs?]

Gonna be an interesting pillow fight.. our backups versus them potentially not being motivated to win.  

[Big Blitz]

 

 

[Ya Digg?]

3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Come on. The Giants season is OVER, and they get absolutely zilch for winning. The only valuable commodity they get for being abjectly terrible all year is incredibly valuable draft capital — and the first pick in every round is as valuable as it gets in that realm. Coaches are members of larger organizations, and they have a responsibility to that organization to look past the shiny object in front of them — an utterly meaningless win — and focus on how they can help make the organization that employs them better for the long term. There is only path for that, and it ain’t winning a game in week 17 that gets you to 3-13.

 

I also *guarantee* you that pretty much every Giants fan agrees with me. As would every Jets fan who remembers missing out on Trevor Lawrence and settling for Zach Wilson. Lawrence is good-not-great but certainly possesses franchise-level talent. Zach Wilson is an absolute bust.

 

The fact that NFL coaches aren’t “wired that way” (ie, accepting that it’s ok to figure out how to lose without it being blatantly obvious) is frankly their problem. I suspect Mayo will put his own interest above his employer’s next week, but perhaps he’ll surprise me.

 

 

Those coaches and players are potentially auditioning for 31 other teams. They are going to play hard so perhaps a team like Buffalo/KC/Baltimore will perhaps sign them. Plus if Daboll knows he is in his way out, don’t you think he wants to stick it to the Giants? 

[CoudyBills]

44 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

The Giants’ victory today was a fireable offense for Daboll — totally selfish, and I mean that. It calls to mind the Jets beating the Rams in 2020, which caused them to lose Trevor Lawrence for Zach Wilson.

Are the Patriots a smarter organization than the Giants?

 

Come up with a better trade off, one sucks, and so does the other.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Ah yes, the 4th preseason game.

[BillsFan2313]

39 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

don’t think the pats trade that pick for a boatload to someone that does? Maybe even the giants?

 

It would have to be calculated if they want Travis Hunter. Can't drop too far.

[Mr. WEO]

51 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

The Giants’ victory today was a fireable offense for Daboll — totally selfish, and I mean that. It calls to mind the Jets beating the Rams in 2020, which caused them to lose Trevor Lawrence for Zach Wilson.

Are the Patriots a smarter organization than the Giants?

 

 

the season to this point and all of last year are fireable offenses for Daboll.  He's the Hue Jackson of the NFC.

 

 

He's only still there because the Jets canned the other worst coach in the NY metro area and Mara/Tisch didn't want to follow suit--bad look for the league

21 minutes ago, buffblue said:

Um, I think Daboll was a goner regardless of today's outcome.

 

I'll tell you who should be fired - the Colts DC for letting the friggin Giants and Drew Lock score damn near 50 points in a must win game. Horrendous

 

That guy's D has stunk all year

[Big Blitz]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

the season to this point and all of last year are fireable offenses for Daboll.  He's the Hue Jackson of the NFC.

 

 

He's only still there because the Jets canned the other worst coach in the NY metro area and Mara/Tisch didn't want to follow suit--bad look for the league

 

That guy's D has stunk all year

 

I think it’s Gus Bradley.  

[DCofNC]

18 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Kinda ruins the whole claim of Jerry Jones being a poor evaluator.

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

I think it’s Gus Bradley.  

 

career long bum...

[GASabresIUFan]

22 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

That % is going up after this season for the Bills.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

43 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Yep thanks Colts...we wanted to beat your soft butts in the playoffs but you blew it!

Agreed.  Now they can just go drink fruity cocktails with little umbrellas, and play golf.

[Jerome007]

1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said:

This is why you would be never allowed anywhere near an NFL field. At no point does a coach and players ever want to lose a game

Nope. But this is was the NHL has done right. A lottery for those first picks, to make sure no one loses on purpose. 

[MikePJ76]

10 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Kinda ruins the whole claim of Jerry Jones being a poor evaluator.

no it doesn't.  The Pro Bowl is a bit of a joke at this point.  

[dave mcbride]

2 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

Nope. But this is was the NHL has done right. A lottery for those first picks, to make sure no one loses on purpose. 

Agreed